Paternity Fraud Pays Off!
The California Supreme Court declined to review a Court of Appeal decision that has a homeless man, Hari Wilburn, paying tens of thousands of dollars in child support for a child a DNA test says is not his!
From the National Coalition For Men, in 1991, Cathy Tate named Wilburn the father of her 5-year-old child Alexis in a court proceeding, but he was never properly served. Seventeen years later, in 2008, based on a 1991 support order by the court, Tate asked the probate court to snatch up tens of thousands of dollars Wilburn was about to inherit from his deceased mother. More from the link:
Wilburn's family tracked down 22-year-old Alexis and asked her to take a DNA test, which excluded Wilburn as Alexis' biological dad. Wilburn's family hired an attorney, who filed a motion challening the support order. Alexis swore under oath that Wilburn never acted as her dad and she only saw him a few times in her life. The court denied the motion, ruling Wilburn should have challenged the order sooner, despite the fact that he was homeless and living under a bridge. On appeal, the Third District Court of Appeal upheld the order on the same grounds, and the California Supreme Court has now declined review."This is totally unjust," said Angelucci. "It is wrong to force a man person to pay child support for a child that is not his, especially when he never acted as the dad."
Yes, but it continues to happen and nobody seems to be doing anything to change it.
(Note: Behavioral ecologist Marlene Zuk challenges the 30 percent of DNA paternity tests figure in the NCFM piece.)
via ifeminists
Sue the woman in civil court for fraud. In fact have every member of this guys familly sue her for fraud.
lujlp at August 2, 2010 4:57 AM
And yet everyone gets in a tizzy over health care reform and how "unfair insurance companies are" blah blah blah... and no one seems to mind that this injustice happens all over the country. I actually had a friend who dealt with this. He was fortunately able to get out of it when the real father actually stepped up and took ownership of taking care of the kid. I would hate to think though how it might have worked out for him had the courts decided that my friend was going to have to pay anyway because it was best for the welfare of the child.
Fucked.Up. The family court system has become one big episode of Maury Povich.
And what is wrong with these women birthing these illigitamet children and then cornering innocent guys to take care of them? I just can't comprehend the thought of having unprotected sex, multiple times, in the same time frame, with different guys, and then (surprise!) not knowing who the child's father is! Have some fucking diginity girls!
Sabrina at August 2, 2010 4:58 AM
I can speall... really...
Sabrina at August 2, 2010 5:23 AM
Shit. I give up.
Sabrina at August 2, 2010 5:24 AM
This will stop the moment that men falsely convicted of creating a child demand full custody of that child and that the mother pay child support.
That's the ONLY way to end this charade.
brian at August 2, 2010 6:20 AM
I gave up over a decade ago, Sabrina
Dont wory though, the dyslecix side is fun
lujlp at August 2, 2010 6:26 AM
Shit, I mean to wiret the fun side is dyslexic, but I suppose my spelling mistakes will have to do.
And brian, I velive some men have tried that, only for the cours to find that as they are not a biological parent they have no righ to custody
lujlp at August 2, 2010 6:28 AM
I encourage these fraudulent "ladies" to go after bigger targets.
Pick Bill Gates, Donald Trump, Warren Buffett etc... as your paternity fraud targets.
David M. at August 2, 2010 7:15 AM
This seems to be a new, corrupt tactic of government - claiming you owe money by default because you don't let them know you're innocent.
I just got hit with a $2600 tangible tax bill. I ignored the bills because I don't have any tangible goods used in my business so didn't think they needed to be answered. But, since I didn't answer, they assessed me based on similar buinesses.
I've proven I don't owe the tax, but their defense is that because I didn't TELL them I didn't owe the tax that now I do. And they actually can seize my property for this...for not paying a tax I don't owe because I didn't tell them I don't owe it.
This is the same kind of ludicrous reasoning.
lovelysoul at August 2, 2010 8:28 AM
This won't stop until every baby is DNA tested at birth. Quite honestly I'd love to see these lying women held accountable as well.
Ann at August 2, 2010 8:39 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2010/08/paternity-fraud-2.html#comment-1738958">comment from lovelysoulYes, it should be "innocent until proven guilty," not "innocent unless you reply before their gotcha date."
Amy Alkon at August 2, 2010 8:47 AM
this continues to happen because social workers do not verify anything. A client of mine was named as the father of three children by a woman he had dated 15 years prior. He was sent a bill by San Bernardino County for thousands of dollars in back child support when this woman applied for welfare for herself and her three children.
In the end, it turned out that the three children were in custody of their actual father in another state.
The county demanded that my guy take a dna test at his expense.
It cost my guy $2,500.00 to clear himself. The woman wasn't prosecuted or even asked to repay the benefits she received.
The Wine Commonsewer at August 2, 2010 9:11 AM
sorry Brian, that'll never happen. It is difficult for real actual fathers to get full custody, because it is always assumed that the mother should be the caregiver. To the point where most lawyers will tell you not to waste the money.
The DNA test at birth IS the single easy way to fix this, becuase then there is no guilt or shame or anger or anything. It's just a test that you take when the kid is born.
except you know it wont work that way. After all, it is too lucrative for various parties the way it is. Why try and go after some deadbeat druggie in jail when you can go after a guy with a job? The bad part? This isn't a cast of 'keep it in your pants and you are OK.' You can have this happen even if you have never met the woman.
SwissArmyD at August 2, 2010 10:52 AM
Hi TWC!
Amy,I posted this to my Facebook page and The Wine Commonsewer came by and said nice things about you too :)
You are a national treasure.
Suki at August 2, 2010 11:22 AM
Nobody feels bad when a thief gets shot.
So why should we feel bad when a fraudster style thief does?
If you can't have a fair day in court, you can always have an unfair gunfight.
That more of these women have not been murdered, is the only thing that I can consider to be shocking.
Robert at August 2, 2010 1:32 PM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2010/08/paternity-fraud-2.html#comment-1739048">comment from SukiThe Wine Commonsewer came by and said nice things about you too :) You are a national treasure.
Awww...thanks!
Amy Alkon at August 2, 2010 2:13 PM
I've wondered about that too Robert.
If men were as violent as feminisim likes to portray, shouldnt the streets of america be littered with corpses?
lujlp at August 2, 2010 2:29 PM
LS, yep, it's a new weapon in the government arsenal: the split statute of limitations that applies to only one party in a case. It goes like this: "We're charging you with this offense that we claim you committed 20 years ago. But since the statute of limitations has expired, you aren't allowed to present a defense. Bada-bing!" (Or, more commonly, "Ka-ching!") Our present day government has an avaricious appetite for money and will stop at absolutely nothing to get it.
Cousin Dave at August 2, 2010 2:32 PM
Does anyone know if it IS still essentially legal (and easy) to pick a stranger's name out of a phone book - if only in California - and say "that's the dad"? That's pretty much what happened to Tony Pierce in 2000 (Amy mentioned the case in February). Google on "tony pierce" and "paternity" for more than one article - including the one from thepriceofliberty dot org.
If the legal tide has turned, even if only in that one small respect, inquiring minds want to know.
lenona at August 2, 2010 2:38 PM
I have a feeling that the types of women who do this have an instinct about which type of men will pay or at least not do anything violent.
But maybe more people should make a resolution to not sleep with someone unless they can deal with the idea of having a kid with that person. Or at least until they know the other person's full name.
Kris at August 2, 2010 8:36 PM
That's interesting. I was adopted right after birth 39-some years ago. Does this mean I can hit up (...oh my God, my head is spinning with delight...) my biological father for four decades of child support?
kevin_m at August 3, 2010 4:51 AM
Did the article mention that this womas has been convicted of fraud and perjury before this case???? The courts seem to be in the business of aiding and abetting stealing.
Laura at August 3, 2010 12:51 PM
Sorry, WOMAN
Laura at August 3, 2010 12:52 PM
But maybe more people should make a resolution to not sleep with someone unless they can deal with the idea of having a kid with that person. Or at least until they know the other person's full name.
Posted by: Kris
Kris, you seemed to have missed an eariler post which stated, correctly by the way, that this can, and has happened to men who have never even met the woman committing th fraud
lujlp at August 4, 2010 6:21 AM
OH MY GOD!!! we can not let this continue. My husband also was named as the father and he is not the biological father! his name is on the system and its really messing with our finances. The girl that did this keeps getting pregnant who knows if she just does it for the money. This is crazy and justice needs to take its place. What is going on with child support workers?
killy at August 12, 2010 1:36 AM
Girls just don't care they're usually in it for sex, corrupt the innocent guy, get pregnant, move onto the next guy and get pregnant again. Girls mother too many children with different guys and not take care of them.
Guest at March 10, 2011 5:31 PM
The Family Court Extortion Collection Agency is nothing more than a robe wearing MAZFIA of kidjackers.
They have a vested interest in driving the wedge between father (or not the daddy) and child and keeping it there, including sizable salaries, job security and residual income for 18 plus years, federal incentives, and the Undistributed winfalls where States have multi millions in extorted pappy cash but no forwarding address for visitation avoiding mommys on the run. According to Inspector General Reports insead this money just disapears, is not turned back over to the federal government and no one is ever charged with non compliance. Not the courts or their accomplice/partenr in crime.
Visitation, paternity, well being of the child, justice are all pure myths and blatant lies. However what you will find is deception, extortion, discrimination, destruction of documents, atrocious book keeping.( See Carol Rhodes Youtube. )
How messy can it get?
To this day for a 27 year old (child?) that isnt mine, who has spit out 7 of her own children retaining custody of only 2 or 3, I have a huge chunk of my check stolen every week, 100% of my taxes interecepted and sent to the welfareaholic paternity fraud mother (Free welafare twice and hush money) even when they have no current contact info for Joy Crocker or her and Dion Spicers child, Kimberly Crocker-Gunn-Dickenson,Wickings!
Ya think maybe some people are pissed here and there might be some mud slingin family fueds and violence brewing here? You bet there is and recently caught running her mouth on facebook this thing has reached a boiling point, all the trash talk and threats have already been made where the family tree versus the withered shrub that doesnt even fork and the gene puddle knuckle dragging mutt siemen Kimberly Wickings cast the first stone!
ATM Daddy at August 21, 2011 10:53 AM
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