Oh, Amy. Poor, poor Amy. I feel for you. i really do. Your perspective on brisket is sorely lacking. Come to Central Texas and learn about brisket smoked over post oak or mesquite for hours and hours. Learn how good a nice piece of lean brisket with a good smoke ring can really taste, or try a piece of thick cut brisket, which marinates itself in its own fat. Find out what Texans have been doing with brisket since the 19th century. I can absolutely guarantee your opinion will change.
You know not whereof you speak.
roadgeek
at September 27, 2014 8:43 AM
To clarify, yes, they serve good brisket at Texas BBQ places. I've eaten it. It's fabulous.
Jewish brisket: Looks like meat; tastes like shoe.
Oh, rg is right. I'm gonna have to try some Jewish brisket to contrast it. But there is nothing better than well-done brisket. 20 miles from where I lived used to be THE BEST hole in the wall that burned down 4 years ago. I'm still in mourning.
gooseegg
at September 27, 2014 10:44 AM
One of the most awesome sandwiches you ever will have is a Z-Man from Oklahoma Joe's in Kansas City. Sliced smoked brisket, provolone cheese, onion rings on top, with KC style BBQ sauce on a bun. Oh, man, I'm all hungry now!
Jim Armstrong
at September 27, 2014 4:11 PM
I LOVE Oklahoma Joe's.
I'm fucking sick of our cardboard food here in California. There's no good meat/BBQ/brisket/etc/ unless you go to the black 'hood.
Ppen
at September 27, 2014 5:24 PM
So Jewish brisket is what Big Daddy's BBQ serves? Big Daddy's has no flavor. You might as well be eating wet cardboard. I half think they stew their brisket instead of smoking it.
Ben
at September 27, 2014 6:25 PM
If you've had bad Jewish-style brisket, it was either the meat or the recipe, because done right, and it's an extremely easy dish to make, it's delicious. Since the recipe is so simple--basically brown the brisket, dump in a load of onions, celery, carrots,garlic, spices, salt, and let sit for hours at a low heat (i.e. braising)--it was probably bad meat (not rotten, just not tasty), unless the liquid was all absorbed and it dried out. I also love barbequed brisket, Texan or otherwise! Trader Joe's has usually (about 3 out of 4, in my experience) pretty good kosher briskets.
Joe
at September 27, 2014 7:22 PM
There's a string of barbeque places in OK and TX named Dickey's that does really good brisket(among other things). Son's been in Tacoma, WA for a few years, and when they opened a Dickey's there he was ecstatic; what passes for 'barbeque' up there...
Anyone see this year's sleeper hit movie "Chef"? There's a scene involving brisket in Austin, Texas that is gorgeous. Neat movie.
"I'm fucking sick of our cardboard food here in California"
Really? I would love to spend a long weekend in the Los Angeles area eating in Korea Town or pigging out on Mexican fish tacos. Damn.
Jason S.
at September 27, 2014 7:38 PM
Indianapolis has the melting deliciousness of Hank's. He goes a little Jewish - brines the brisket with spices, then slow smokes it and slices it thick. He trims the fat cap before carving, but is glad to leave it, on request.
Hank's is in an area that made the national top 10
crime areas this year. People don't care, with brisket this good. Smoked Corned Beef and Potato Latkes could be an indicator of a nice Jewish clientele there in the 'hood.
bmused
at September 27, 2014 9:12 PM
Happy to report that I can get awesome brisket here near the Finger Lakes, at the Three Legged Pig in Lakeville, NY.
DaveG
at September 27, 2014 9:19 PM
BTW, Oklahoma Joe's has renamed itself to Joe's Kansas City. Still the same, just a name change.
Jim Armstrong
at September 28, 2014 7:12 AM
I have to agree with Jason. I'm walking and/or driving distance from great Mexican, Thai, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, French, Italian, Indian, California cuisine, and even barbecue restaurants, and I'm not in L.A.
Try that in flyover country (although the beef is excellent).
Note for travelers to the South: hush puppies aren't really made of deep-fried puppies.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers
at September 28, 2014 11:48 AM
Jewish style brisket cooked by someone who knows what he is doing is excellent. Texas smoked brisket is as well. If it isn't good, blame the chef.
Jeff
at September 28, 2014 11:52 AM
That's what I'm talkin''bout, Gog. You're living large.
Last time I was in San Fran, I went to the Asian area in the Richmond District to a place called Burma Superstar and ate a Coconut chicken curry noodles w/ an egg and yellow beans on cabbage or something like that. Oh my Gosh.
A couple blocks down the way, there were fresh baked rolls filled w/ BBQ pork for a $1 a piece n some hole-in-the-wall Chinese bakery. Freakin' incredible.
Jason S.
at September 28, 2014 2:04 PM
You guys are talking about ethnic joints which I love.
If you wanna eat well you gots to eat either ethnic stuff by immigrants or ethnic fusion. That's pretty much mostly what I eat when I go out.
But I want American (not Americanized) stuff and it all tastes like cardboard due to the health food nuttery around these parts.
Ppen
at September 28, 2014 5:21 PM
"But I want American"
Well, America is known as a melting pot, racist.
THAT'S A JOKE, THAT'S A JOKE about the racist thing.
Jason S.
at September 28, 2014 5:45 PM
Note for travelers to the South: hush puppies aren't really made of deep-fried puppies. ~ Posted by: Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at September 28, 2014 11:48 AM
I miss good hush puppies. There are many foods Northern California does well (or passably well), but hush puppies ain't one of 'em.
Conan the Grammarian
at September 29, 2014 9:50 AM
I have found that I am somewhat brisket-intolerant. I can eat a little bit, but if I consume more than four slices, my system can't process it properly and it comes back up after a few hours.
I usually just lurk here from within my Feedly reader. With this post, though, I had to come here properly to correct a horrible injustice. I see plenty of other Texans are on the job, though, and have taken care of things nicely.
Oh, Amy. Poor, poor Amy. I feel for you. i really do. Your perspective on brisket is sorely lacking. Come to Central Texas and learn about brisket smoked over post oak or mesquite for hours and hours. Learn how good a nice piece of lean brisket with a good smoke ring can really taste, or try a piece of thick cut brisket, which marinates itself in its own fat. Find out what Texans have been doing with brisket since the 19th century. I can absolutely guarantee your opinion will change.
You know not whereof you speak.
roadgeek at September 27, 2014 8:43 AM
To clarify, yes, they serve good brisket at Texas BBQ places. I've eaten it. It's fabulous.
Jewish brisket: Looks like meat; tastes like shoe.
Amy Alkon at September 27, 2014 9:37 AM
Oh, rg is right. I'm gonna have to try some Jewish brisket to contrast it. But there is nothing better than well-done brisket. 20 miles from where I lived used to be THE BEST hole in the wall that burned down 4 years ago. I'm still in mourning.
gooseegg at September 27, 2014 10:44 AM
One of the most awesome sandwiches you ever will have is a Z-Man from Oklahoma Joe's in Kansas City. Sliced smoked brisket, provolone cheese, onion rings on top, with KC style BBQ sauce on a bun. Oh, man, I'm all hungry now!
Jim Armstrong at September 27, 2014 4:11 PM
I LOVE Oklahoma Joe's.
I'm fucking sick of our cardboard food here in California. There's no good meat/BBQ/brisket/etc/ unless you go to the black 'hood.
Ppen at September 27, 2014 5:24 PM
So Jewish brisket is what Big Daddy's BBQ serves? Big Daddy's has no flavor. You might as well be eating wet cardboard. I half think they stew their brisket instead of smoking it.
Ben at September 27, 2014 6:25 PM
If you've had bad Jewish-style brisket, it was either the meat or the recipe, because done right, and it's an extremely easy dish to make, it's delicious. Since the recipe is so simple--basically brown the brisket, dump in a load of onions, celery, carrots,garlic, spices, salt, and let sit for hours at a low heat (i.e. braising)--it was probably bad meat (not rotten, just not tasty), unless the liquid was all absorbed and it dried out. I also love barbequed brisket, Texan or otherwise! Trader Joe's has usually (about 3 out of 4, in my experience) pretty good kosher briskets.
Joe at September 27, 2014 7:22 PM
There's a string of barbeque places in OK and TX named Dickey's that does really good brisket(among other things). Son's been in Tacoma, WA for a few years, and when they opened a Dickey's there he was ecstatic; what passes for 'barbeque' up there...
Firehand at September 27, 2014 7:23 PM
Anyone see this year's sleeper hit movie "Chef"? There's a scene involving brisket in Austin, Texas that is gorgeous. Neat movie.
"I'm fucking sick of our cardboard food here in California"
Really? I would love to spend a long weekend in the Los Angeles area eating in Korea Town or pigging out on Mexican fish tacos. Damn.
Jason S. at September 27, 2014 7:38 PM
Indianapolis has the melting deliciousness of Hank's. He goes a little Jewish - brines the brisket with spices, then slow smokes it and slices it thick. He trims the fat cap before carving, but is glad to leave it, on request.
Hank's is in an area that made the national top 10
crime areas this year. People don't care, with brisket this good. Smoked Corned Beef and Potato Latkes could be an indicator of a nice Jewish clientele there in the 'hood.
bmused at September 27, 2014 9:12 PM
Happy to report that I can get awesome brisket here near the Finger Lakes, at the Three Legged Pig in Lakeville, NY.
DaveG at September 27, 2014 9:19 PM
BTW, Oklahoma Joe's has renamed itself to Joe's Kansas City. Still the same, just a name change.
Jim Armstrong at September 28, 2014 7:12 AM
I have to agree with Jason. I'm walking and/or driving distance from great Mexican, Thai, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, French, Italian, Indian, California cuisine, and even barbecue restaurants, and I'm not in L.A.
Try that in flyover country (although the beef is excellent).
Note for travelers to the South: hush puppies aren't really made of deep-fried puppies.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at September 28, 2014 11:48 AM
Jewish style brisket cooked by someone who knows what he is doing is excellent. Texas smoked brisket is as well. If it isn't good, blame the chef.
Jeff at September 28, 2014 11:52 AM
That's what I'm talkin''bout, Gog. You're living large.
Last time I was in San Fran, I went to the Asian area in the Richmond District to a place called Burma Superstar and ate a Coconut chicken curry noodles w/ an egg and yellow beans on cabbage or something like that. Oh my Gosh.
A couple blocks down the way, there were fresh baked rolls filled w/ BBQ pork for a $1 a piece n some hole-in-the-wall Chinese bakery. Freakin' incredible.
Jason S. at September 28, 2014 2:04 PM
You guys are talking about ethnic joints which I love.
If you wanna eat well you gots to eat either ethnic stuff by immigrants or ethnic fusion. That's pretty much mostly what I eat when I go out.
But I want American (not Americanized) stuff and it all tastes like cardboard due to the health food nuttery around these parts.
Ppen at September 28, 2014 5:21 PM
"But I want American"
Well, America is known as a melting pot, racist.
THAT'S A JOKE, THAT'S A JOKE about the racist thing.
Jason S. at September 28, 2014 5:45 PM
I miss good hush puppies. There are many foods Northern California does well (or passably well), but hush puppies ain't one of 'em.
Conan the Grammarian at September 29, 2014 9:50 AM
I have found that I am somewhat brisket-intolerant. I can eat a little bit, but if I consume more than four slices, my system can't process it properly and it comes back up after a few hours.
Fayd at September 29, 2014 1:59 PM
I usually just lurk here from within my Feedly reader. With this post, though, I had to come here properly to correct a horrible injustice. I see plenty of other Texans are on the job, though, and have taken care of things nicely.
Bryan L at September 29, 2014 2:57 PM
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