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Call It Pre-Chump. You paid to have your rights and body slightly less violated by the TSA gropers -- but you might wait longer than non PreCheck members.
“In this 12-month weight loss diet study, there was no significant difference in weight change between a healthy low-fat diet vs a healthy low-carbohydrate diet, and neither genotype pattern nor baseline insulin secretion was associated with the dietary effects on weight loss. In the context of these two common weight loss diet approaches, neither of the two hypothesized predisposing factors was helpful in identifying which diet was better for whom.”
Crid
at February 26, 2018 4:24 AM
And while you're at it, chew on this: Clothing is done.
The apparel industry seems to have no solution to the dwindling dollars Americans devote to their closets. Many upstarts promising to revolutionize the industry drift away with barely a whimper. Who needs fashion these days when you can express yourself through social media? Why buy that pricey new dress when you could fund a weekend getaway instead?
By the standards of my childhood, we've slipped a supercomputer(!) into the pocket or purse of most every literate person on the planet... And into those of an uncountable number of dimmer bulbs.
But commoditization of this ruthless binary candlepower isn't cleansing us with rationality: These logic machines are detonators for novelty.
If Trump (and Xi) are merely the early disruptions from this dynamism, I fear we ain't seen nuthin' yet.
Crid
at February 26, 2018 5:21 AM
Damn, that was a great blog comment. Seriously, a Best-of-the-Month™ contender. Straightforward presentation of the Big Link, solid (and humble) follow-thru on the incidental statistic, and thoughtful, skull-widening analysis at the end. At least one of the top two of the month, and maybe the top of my Olympic podium for the young 2018.
Did you guys know that every time Amy awards one of her BotM™ certificates, she includes a coupon for 20,000 free MileagePlus bonus miles on American Airlines?
(She used to give away lunch at participating Red Lobster restaurants, but airline miles are better. Fly the friendly skies, people!)
Crid
at February 26, 2018 5:34 AM
Okay, truth time: It was another food link this morning that nourished the comment about cellphones:
As the head of Cornell’s prestigious food psychology research unit, the Food and Brand Lab, Wansink was a social science star.
All these things can teach us to hate the word "social."
We just flew the fam to disney. I swore Id never fly while the tsa existed, but we got a deal cheaper than driving, so....
All we had to do was put our carryons and shoes through the xray, and walk through a metal detector-the only difference between it and entering Disney was the shoes. All of us that is except DD#2. She is apparently TSA prechecked, at 13. Do they give that out randomly to every X passenger, or does she have a frequent-traveller name-twin?
Hopefully its the same story heading home. Because no one is "patting down" any of my kids.
We flew JetBlue, a first, I'm a Southwest girl, but I'm impressed with them. We took 6 22-inch carryons, no checked bags so no fees, plenty of free inflight snacks and entertainment, and the most legroom Ive had since I was 6 and got to sit in 1st class cause daddy was paying.
Fellow parents: last week of feb is the week for Disney. Cheap flights, cheap hotels, no crowds.
Momof4
at February 26, 2018 5:50 AM
Indeed, we're still waiting for Amy's first words about the replication crisis.
Crid
at February 26, 2018 5:51 AM
I just haven't discussed the replication crisis here. I'm putting Nosek and Open Science in my next book.
Even Ioannidis has some problems: Steven Goodman and Sander Greenland, "Why Most Published Research Findings Are False: Problems in the Analysis"
Whitlock-Loder-Cosh-Me-You: It's precision of the harmony that reminds us how those guys got famous.
Crid
at February 26, 2018 6:05 AM
For those interested in reading research reports in the media and understanding them, an important thing to look at is how they state the stats. There's relative risk versus absolute risk. This is a good primer.
Momof4: yes, I've randomly gotten a TSA Precheck notation on my boarding passes now and again without having to pay for it. I think that's a sneaky advertising campaign on the TSA's part.
This has never stopped the True Believer prohibitionist.
"If you pass laws that people have no respect for and they don't follow them, then you have a real problem," Connecticut Sen. Tony Guglielmo (R-District 35), told the Hartford Courant when large numbers of state residents flipped the bird to lawmakers and defied the new gun law.
Well... yes, you do. And like their restriction-inclined predecessors, gun controllers will have quite a mess on their hands.
Hey! How many times have I said things like this on this very blog?
We have to accept that science is a human enterprise, with all that that entails, rather than pretending that everything is wonderful and then having an attack of the vapours any time there’s a problem.
Answer: A bunch.
Crid
at February 26, 2018 6:22 AM
From Crids linke to the replication issue we see this:
How many research groups are doing something similar, but are accurately reporting the data they cooked up to make a good story?
Do we know how to find them? Can the Black Flag find them?
The answer is no, we cannot.
You might want to apply some of the things forensic accounting has learned. One may be able to suss out some of that made up data. Now, if the datamongers are truely clever, it will be very hard to spot. But never attribute to cleverness what can be adequately explained by laziness and pseduo-random number generators.
I haven't actually been keeping up with the news....
Crid
at February 26, 2018 6:44 AM
Science is a process, not an endpoint. Good science involves correcting errors in past work -- but science is done by humans and is plagued by confirmation bias and all the rest of human flaws.
I am writing a medical expose now. It's terrifying what errors mean to people. If I am undercritical about social science, you might ask a girl out the wrong way. If a medical researcher gets something wrong, your sister might die.
Good gosh, the music is so in sync w/ the fight scene starting at 4:37...like an opera without lyrics, just people dying all over the place...culminating at 6:45 w/ the eerie music, then the drums as Keanu is stepping on to the car...the music and the movements are perfect together, like Jesse Ventura said: wrestling is ballet w/ violence. Not to mention when Keanu gets angry at 3:35
Stinky the Clown
at February 26, 2018 6:53 AM
I often get TSA pre-check, which I presume is due to my, erm, status with the DoD. In my experience, it's almost worthless. At many airports (PHX, I'm lookin' at you), the precheck lines are only open during the very busiest hours. Any other time, you have to go through the regular line. At STL, the precheck line is seldom any shorter or less time-consuming than the regular line, so all it does is keep you from having to take your shoes off. (In theory, you can avoid taking your laptop out of your bag. But I have to travel with a CPAP machine, and it must always be removed from the bag, and if you have that, they usually want your laptop removed too.) Ironically, the one place where it consistently saves me time is at my home airport, where the precheck line is quick and the people are usually courteous.
I remember one time, pre-9/11, when I had to hand-carry an oscilloscope onto a flight. If I tried that today, I'd probably get strip-searched and have my entire family history investigated.
Cousin Dave
at February 26, 2018 6:57 AM
Something Mark Twain is supposed to have said: Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint.
Yes, Democrats, please do:
So the Dems will run in November on impeaching Trump, rolling back his tax cut, identity politics, and taking away guns owned by lawful Americans?
So the Dems will run in November on impeaching Trump, rolling back his tax cut, identity politics, and taking away guns owned by lawful Americans? ~ I R A Darth Aggie at February 26, 2018 6:58 AM
Well, the California Democratic Party refused to endorse Diane Feinstein at its recent convention, preferring progressive state senator Kevin de Leon, but not enough to endorse him either.
Feinstein, while still pretty moonbat liberal, has at least held a job with executive level responsibility (mayor of San Francisco) and, thus, understands that not all liberal/academic policies make good governance. As such, she's unacceptable to the left wing of the Democratic Party.
The preferred candidate, de Leon, has not. He is a former "educator teaching US citizenship courses" and a former community organizer. He is an advocate for the California Teachers' Association, as well as a member. He was instrumental in passing the law that gave California driver's licenses to illegal immigrants and has advocated illegal immigrant friendly policies.
He is an advocate of gun control and has pushed policies that restrict sales of handgun ammunition. In that, he may be no better than Feinstein and her "assault weapons" ban.
At a press conference, de Leon displayed his ignorance about guns, claiming the AR-15 could "disperse 30 bullets in half a second" and could accept a "30 caliber magazine clip."
He is a proponent of the affirmative consent standard in California colleges and universities.
Conan the Grammarian
at February 26, 2018 7:36 AM
> Science is a process
Yeahyeah, just saying, Ioannidis' slapback was so fast I didn't even see it.
And actually, if I'd noted the date of Goodman/Greenland challenge, I'd have ignored it entirely.
This is the kind of 'confession' offered by someone whose impact on the flow of world events is generational, and perhaps game-changing and Godsent.
Ioannidis has made his mark, and double-checked his penmanship at every stroke.
Crid
at February 26, 2018 8:00 AM
And alas, my beloved (and redheaded and hardheaded) sister is now perfectly safe.
Crid
at February 26, 2018 8:03 AM
The scourge of manspreading that was so pervasive an ordinance for the subway had to be passed lest the transit authority be accused of sexism has its first sacrificial lamb
Oh they arrested a woman? Well thats just sexist, and probably racist too
”Hopefully its the same story heading home. Because no one is "patting down" any of my kids.”
Yeah, because the wishes of the passenger are always foremost in the minds of the TSA… They will totally do what you want.
Let us know how much your bail is.
I hear some handcuffs are comfortable, so you won’t mind wearing them.
Radwaste
at February 26, 2018 1:52 PM
A couple years back an enlightened smarter-than-you woperson and suspiciously congruent commentmob agreed that hetero sex is always rape.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers
at February 26, 2018 2:03 PM
A couple years back an enlightened smarter-than-you woperson and suspiciously congruent commentmob agreed that hetero sex is always rape.
Catherine MacKinnon and Andrea Dworkin called to say welcome to the party, pal! I guess late is better than never.
I R A Darth Aggie
at February 26, 2018 2:34 PM
Let us know how much your bail is.
I can scratch up a couple of bucks. TSA probably sees actual paying customers as an imposition on their free time.
I R A Darth Aggie
at February 26, 2018 2:37 PM
Deer Google, you might want to rethink this. If not, DOJ should contemplate opening an anti-trust investigation, IMO. Or you should be thankful that "net neutrality" was rescinded.
I did the AR-15 search, and it came up null. I also did a search on AK-47, and google returned results. One of which is a hoodie that says "My AK-47 identifies as a bolt action".
I R A Darth Aggie
at February 26, 2018 2:45 PM
Seems like someone should have brushed up on his Florida government class or taken one.
Dworkin, like Kate Millett, has turned a garish history of mental instability into feminist grand opera. Dworkin publicly boasts of her bizarre multiple rapes, assaults, beatings, breakdowns and tacky traumas, as if her inability to cope with life were the patriarchy's fault rather than her own. She pretends to be a daring truth-teller but never mentions her most obvious problem: food.
After that, some of what she says gets kind of personal and pointed.
Crid
at February 26, 2018 2:55 PM
Would totally d̶a̶t̶e̶ vote for Stacy Dash. That child is stunning.
Crid
at February 26, 2018 3:18 PM
Conservative Mona Charen: "I’m Glad I Got Booed at CPAC"
"...So you’d think that the Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, would be a natural fit. It once was. But on Saturday, after speaking to this year’s gathering, I had to be escorted from the premises by several guards who seemed genuinely concerned for my safety...
"...My panel was about the #MeToo movement, which was a natural for me since my new book coming out in June, “Sex Matters,” grapples with the movement and other aspects of our fraught sexual ecosystem.
"After every woman on the panel had a chance to speak and with 10 minutes remaining on the clock, the moderator threw a slow pitch right over the plate. She asked us about feminist hypocrisy. Ask me that at a cocktail party and I will talk your ear off about how the very people who had lectured us about the utter venality of workplace sexual harassment throughout the 1980s became suddenly quiescent when the malefactor was Bill Clinton.
"But this time, and particularly in front of this crowd, it felt far more urgent to point out the hypocrisy of our side. How can conservative women hope to have any credibility on the subject of sexual harassment or relations between the sexes when they excuse the behavior of President Trump? And how can we participate in any conversation about sexual ethics when the Republican president and the Republican Party backed a man credibly accused of child molestation for the United States Senate?
"I watched my fellow panelists’ eyes widen. And then the booing began.
"I’d been dreading it for days, but when it came, I almost welcomed it. There is nothing more freeing than telling the truth. And it must be done, again and again, by those of us who refuse to be absorbed into this brainless, sinister, clownish thing called Trumpism, by those of us who refuse to overlook the fools, frauds and fascists attempting to glide along in his slipstream into respectability..."
Um, a 9mm handgun has a muzzle velocity of about 1,200 feet per second. An AR-15 has a muzzle velocity of about 3,300 fps. Of course, this depends upon the ammunition used.
So, technically O'Donnell is correct with the 3x metric, but we're talking about a difference of 1/10th of a second or less. Both bullets break the speed of sound (1,125 fps).
I'm not sure I get what he's saying; that the school shooter would duck out of the way of the teacher's shot and hit the teacher with his faster AR-15 shot? Has O'Donnell ever tried to duck a handgun shot?
I've got a 1909 revolver that shoots an anemic 750 fps and I dare O'Donnell to try and dodge that.
If the Left wants to argue gun control, do so. Don't try and impress people with a tenuous grasp of the technical details of guns. There be monsters.
I'm sure China's air pollution would be a lot worse if they DID have clothes dryers. (Which is not to say there's no way of having the best of both worlds - I just don't know what it could be.)
Let’s consider for a moment the imbecility of the suggestion that teachers be armed and ready to return fire in the event of another school shooting. If the perpetrator is a student at the school, the teachers would be firing at a child; how many teachers do you know who would actually do this?
In the event of a firefight, there is the possibility of friendly-fire casualties; how many teachers would be willing to take that risk?
We already ask too much of teachers: We ask them to work for little pay in underfunded, overflowing classrooms, and they do. They do because they are committed to their mission to educate, nurture and help the next generations succeed.
To our president and members of Congress: Go ahead and ask that same person to take on the responsibility of potentially killing a student, friendly-fire or otherwise, and see what response you get.
BROOKE JONES, HONOLULU
lenona
at February 26, 2018 4:32 PM
Presumably Larry O'scary was trying to discuss rate of fire. ~ Crid at February 26, 2018 4:11 PM
Well, they're both semi-automatic firearms (one trigger pull per shot). So they only shoot as quickly as you can pull the trigger. So, they shoot at the same rate of fire.
Conan the Grammarian
at February 26, 2018 4:32 PM
In the event of a firefight, there is the possibility of friendly-fire casualties; how many teachers would be willing to take that risk? ~ lenona at February 26, 2018 4:32 PM
Lenona, let's not deify teachers. I'm sure plenty of them would be willing to shoot back at a student killing his fellow students. At least as willing as a Palm Beach County Sheriff's deputy would be, or a School Resource Officer of the Year candidate.
And I believe the idea is not to arm every teacher, just enough of them to create a deference to anyone thinking about taking guns to school - like Sky Marshalls.
Perhaps not a great plan, since the random presence of Sky Marshalls does not seem to have deterred hijackers.
Conan the Grammarian
at February 26, 2018 4:38 PM
"Let’s consider for a moment the imbecility of the suggestion that teachers be armed and ready to return fire in the event of another school shooting. If the perpetrator is a student at the school, the teachers would be firing at a child; how many teachers do you know who would actually do this?"
This is another example of there being no link whatsoever between education, reason and outrage on social media - and of the pervasive atmosphere of fear in the USA, possibly indicative of an epidemic producing emotional infirmity, such as that exhibited by Alzheimer's victims.
You must fear. It's mandatory.
• This "imbecility" is already in place in Utah.
• A teacher - the single person encountering the killer - will not be "firing at a child"; they'll be firing at a deluded monster who has decided to kill and maim others, including the teacher. Go tell that coach in Florida a "child" killed him.
Larry Correia already addressed this.
Radwaste
at February 26, 2018 7:06 PM
I'm not sure how some people have built up these shooters as being a cross between a Terminator and John Rambo, with a dash of John Wick thrown in for good measure.
These turkeys are still human. And for the most part are not well trained - Call of Duty doesn't count. They know how to operate their weapons, and they're quite willing to shoot people who are unarmed. But they're not going to kill you with a fucking pencil.
They're still subject to the same fight or flight emotions they're inflicting on their victims, and they're also liable to fall prey to target lock, the narrowing of their vision to only see the things in front of them, and not the person behind them that's about to put bullet in their head. Or back. Remember: they're is no shoot to wound.
Go and review the John Wick, Chapter 2 trailer. In particular, the scene where he is in confined space with an AR of some sort (or perhaps an M-16/4?). Aimed shots, very particular, disciplined and keeps his head on a swivel.
"I know there's a lot of controversy, and people who don't want to arm them," said Locastro, 44. But she thinks armed staffers can deter attacks like the Parkland gunman. "Hopefully, it will make them think twice," she said.
In about two dozen states, including California, schools can allow staff to carry guns on campus, although some require concealed-carry licenses, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.
I R A Darth Aggie
at February 26, 2018 8:15 PM
I'm a pro-Constitution kinda guy so how about we remove taxpayer-funded armed protection from our politicians and see how the voting goes?
Because I'm pretty damned certain those shmoes don't want the drunken hotheads on the other side of the aisle packin' heat on the job.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers
at February 26, 2018 8:57 PM
I see that the President has said he would have run into the Florida high school to stop the shooter, "...even if I didn't have a weapon."
This is exactly what ANY person in power should be prepared to do.
Can you imagine your favorite public figure doing that? If not, maybe they shouldn't BE your favorite.
What would Hillary have done?
Radwaste
at February 26, 2018 9:00 PM
I see that the President has said he would have run into the Florida high school to stop the shooter, "...even if I didn't have a weapon." ~ Radwaste at February 26, 2018 9:00 PM
Until the shooting actually starts, let's take with a grain of salt any claims of what any would-be heroes would have done.
Unless the would-be hero has a history of rushing into danger to save people, any claim that he would have is just an empty boast; and even then it's still up in the air as each situation is different and who knows when even a real hero will lose his nerve.
Even on this forum, we've had posters tell us what heroes they would have been in various situations, but when asked to back it up by telling us when they really were a hero, they went silent.
In college, I worked in a grocery store. Every night we had a police officer hired to guard the store before closing, prime time to rob us. One night, Officer O'Brien was standing by the register I was cleaning when the high school student sweeping nearby asked her if she wore a bullet-proof vest. She knocked on her chest and said "always" although she expressed doubts about the "proof" part of that description.
Our would-be Rambo declared he would not wear one, as a vest would only slow him down. She went into a detailed description of what a bullet wound does to a human body and said she would always wear one, given a choice. I, having stayed out of the conversation up to this point, nodded and said I was with her. He repeated his assertion that he needed the freedom of movement that being sans vest would give him.
Officer O'Brien and I looked at each other and shook our heads. What a dumbass. Everybody's a hero when the guns are silent.
Having had guns pointed at me, both in anger and in stupidity, I'd take the vest. I'd like to think that I'd run into the school to save people, but I hope I never have to find out.
Conan the Grammarian
at February 27, 2018 6:03 AM
"How can conservative women hope to have any credibility on the subject of sexual harassment or relations between the sexes when they excuse the behavior of President Trump? And how can we participate in any conversation about sexual ethics when the Republican president and the Republican Party backed a man credibly accused of child molestation for the United States Senate?"
Answer: Because the Trumpian conservatives no longer give a damn. They've figured out that the Left views civilized behavior as a weakness to be exploited, and that Washington has become its own most important constituency. The Tea Party was the last try at doing things the old-fashioned way. Charen is a good and thoughtful writer, but she's a product of her time and she doesn't understand the new rules of engagement.
Cousin Dave
at February 27, 2018 6:42 AM
"They're still subject to the same fight or flight emotions they're inflicting on their victims, and they're also liable to fall prey to target lock, the narrowing of their vision to only see the things in front of them, and not the person behind them that's about to put bullet in their head. "
One of the things they emphasize to us in our active-shooter training is that these shooters are usually acting in a state of adrenaline and excitability that they have no experience with, so their operational effectiveness, if you will, is actually quite poor. Most of the shots they take miss, and it's common for them to miss a target that is only a few feet away. Most of the casualties that they inflict occur when they fire into groups or crowds of people, where it's almost impossible to miss. The solution to this is: disperse. Don't gather. This is why "shelter in place" is a terrible idea.
These shooters are also highly distractable. One tactic is to throw something that will make a lot of noise when it hits the floor. The shooter will turn their focus to where the noise came from -- they might even fire at it. This creates a significant opportunity for either escape or counterattack.
Cousin Dave
at February 27, 2018 6:53 AM
"How can conservative women hope to have any credibility on the subject of sexual harassment or relations between the sexes when they excuse the behavior of President Trump?" ~ Mona Charen [quoted]
How can modern feminists hope to have any credibility on the subject of sexual harassment or relations between the sexes who they fervently back stories that are easily proven false (UVA fraternity, Duke lacrosse, etc.), go apoplectic at innocent touching, and cry rape with equal fervor whether the case is a knife-wielding thug or arguably little more than morning-after regret?
How can modern feminists have any credibility when they fervently backed a woman who actively covered up her husband's sexual harassment and credible rape accusation? And never expressed any regret for having done so?
Given the modern hysteria over relations between the sexes, no one party or viewpoint has more credibility than the other. It's a goat rodeo.
Conan the Grammarian
at February 27, 2018 7:32 AM
"Until the shooting actually starts, let's take with a grain of salt any claims of what any would-be heroes would have done."
Okay, I'll take that bait:
Of the number of people who state they would run INTO danger, what percentage will actually DO that...
As opposed to the percentage of those who remain silent, or state that they will NOT?
There are a lot of people who buy the idea that it's "someone else's" job to defend women and children - and/or that the common American simply cannot cope, no matter what. Not me.
There are a lot of people who buy the idea that it's "someone else's" job to defend women and children - and/or that the common American simply cannot cope, no matter what. ~ Radwaste at February 27, 2018 11:49 AM
Well, until crunch time comes, I'll take your profession of bravado with a grain of salt.
A combat veteran once told me that he never answered questions of what it's like because if you've never been there, words aren't enough and if you have, words aren't necessary.
As such, absolute professions of "I would..." bravado are too often given with no idea what it's like when the bullets are flying.
Sometimes it won't be boasting. ~ Radwaste at February 27, 2018 11:52 AM
Sometimes it won't. Sometimes, it will.
I wonder if Deputy Peterson ever boasted that he would lead the charge if a mass shooter came to Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School. If he did, I'll bet he thought he would at the time.
I wonder if Coach Feis ever thought he'd be tested with something like this, or ever bragged that he would be heroic if he was.
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Conan the Grammarian
at February 27, 2018 2:03 PM
the Republican Party backed a man credibly accused of child molestation for the United States Senate?
I'd still dispute that. Of the women accusing him all but one was OVER the legal age of consent for the state and I honestly cant recall one saying he used force of violence - nor was there any reports of him sleeping around after marrying his wife
On the accusations of the lady who was 14 at the time, there were a couple problems with her story, and as far as I can tell not one reporter ever asked her mother to corroborate what her daughter said she said.
That being said 14 is skeevy and I cant think of a reason a woman of that age would make such an accusation given she had nothing to gain after all this time
"Well, until crunch time comes, I'll take your profession of bravado with a grain of salt."
Go right ahead, because I am not here to please you. I suspect you'll hide and Isab would go in. Meanwhile, the percentage of those who claim they will act, who then DO act, is greater than those who claim otherwise - even though the deadliest person I've ever met said nothing whatsoever about his actions; it took the arrival of his mostly redacted service record for the command to learn of them.
I know many people personally who have served and come under fire. Guess what they say?
Hillary - you know, the "adult" candidate - came under sniper fire overseas according to her. I bet she's guarding a school right now.
Radwaste
at February 27, 2018 8:02 PM
Hillary - you know, the "adult" candidate - came under sniper fire overseas according to her. I bet she's guarding a school right now. ~ Radwaste at February 27, 2018 8:02 PM
Hillary's full of crap, Raddy. And I suspect you are too. But I hope you never have to find out for real if you'll hide or go in.
Conan the Grammarian
at February 27, 2018 8:37 PM
Trump is a HERO! He's PHYSICALLY COURAGEOUS! He's brilliant negotiator who gets discounts on airliners (except that time he defaulted on his own airline in 1990)...
"The price has always been around $4 billion," said Richard Aboulafia, an aviation analyst with the Teal Group. "There's no evidence that anything has changed at all with this program. Happy Air Force One Theater Day!"
Crid
at February 28, 2018 7:36 AM
...And all because he loves you, the people who voted for him.
Crid
at February 28, 2018 7:38 AM
Would totally d̶a̶t̶e̶ vote for Stacy Dash. That child is stunning."
So - you voted for Mary Carey for governor a few years ago, eh?
Radwaste
at March 3, 2018 3:46 AM
"Hillary's full of crap, Raddy. And I suspect you are too. But I hope you never have to find out for real if you'll hide or go in."
Well, I have been tested by electrical fires and explosions and run towards the problem rather than away from it. I also have no fear whatsoever of guns - it is the person, not the tool, that must be countered.
And my points stand:
• The percentage of people who claim they will run IN to a building to try to save kids from a shooter is larger than that of those who say nothing or that they will run away
• I have testimony from veterans of Middle East service - who have been shot at - that THEY would go in.
May you find your way as pleasant.
Radwaste
at March 3, 2018 3:52 AM
I have testimony from veterans of Middle East service - who have been shot at - that THEY would go in. ~ Radwaste at March 3, 2018 3:52 AM
Testimony? Well, I guess "testimony" trumps mere conversation.
And as for your veterans' "testimony," they have been tested. My comment was primarily driven by those who have not, who have never heard shots fired in anger, and yet boast about their projected heroism - as illustrated by my young coworker who dismissively eschewed the use of bullet-proof vests as a hinderance to his fantasized heroics versus the officer who had actually faced bullets fired at her and preferred Kevlar to kung fu heroics.
The percentage of people who claim they will run IN to a building to try to save kids from a shooter is larger than that of those who say nothing or that they will run away ~ Radwaste at March 3, 2018 3:52 AM
I suspect that's true since very few people will openly admit that they would run away or do nothing when people are in danger.
I also have no fear whatsoever of guns - it is the person, not the tool, that must be countered. ~ Radwaste at March 3, 2018 3:52 AM
Raddy, I sincerely hope you never have to put that statement to the test.
Call It Pre-Chump. You paid to have your rights and body slightly less violated by the TSA gropers -- but you might wait longer than non PreCheck members.
http://www.elliott.org/blog/tsa-precheck-lines-get-longer/
Amy Alkon at February 25, 2018 9:22 PM
Decomposed Body of Woman Found 3 Years After She Was Supposed to Be Cremated.
http://time.com/5174491/body-found-not-cremated-south-carolina/
Snoopy at February 26, 2018 1:33 AM
Via Cosh, and follow the link: We're all dooomed:
Crid at February 26, 2018 4:24 AM
And while you're at it, chew on this: Clothing is done.
By the standards of my childhood, we've slipped a supercomputer(!) into the pocket or purse of most every literate person on the planet... And into those of an uncountable number of dimmer bulbs.But commoditization of this ruthless binary candlepower isn't cleansing us with rationality: These logic machines are detonators for novelty.
If Trump (and Xi) are merely the early disruptions from this dynamism, I fear we ain't seen nuthin' yet.
Crid at February 26, 2018 5:21 AM
Damn, that was a great blog comment. Seriously, a Best-of-the-Month™ contender. Straightforward presentation of the Big Link, solid (and humble) follow-thru on the incidental statistic, and thoughtful, skull-widening analysis at the end. At least one of the top two of the month, and maybe the top of my Olympic podium for the young 2018.
Did you guys know that every time Amy awards one of her BotM™ certificates, she includes a coupon for 20,000 free MileagePlus bonus miles on American Airlines?
(She used to give away lunch at participating Red Lobster restaurants, but airline miles are better. Fly the friendly skies, people!)
Crid at February 26, 2018 5:34 AM
Okay, truth time: It was another food link this morning that nourished the comment about cellphones:
All these things can teach us to hate the word "social."Crid at February 26, 2018 5:43 AM
Millennials may be consummately insufferable, but they do have one redeeming quality: they're killing themselves off very quickly.
Patrick at February 26, 2018 5:48 AM
We just flew the fam to disney. I swore Id never fly while the tsa existed, but we got a deal cheaper than driving, so....
All we had to do was put our carryons and shoes through the xray, and walk through a metal detector-the only difference between it and entering Disney was the shoes. All of us that is except DD#2. She is apparently TSA prechecked, at 13. Do they give that out randomly to every X passenger, or does she have a frequent-traveller name-twin?
Hopefully its the same story heading home. Because no one is "patting down" any of my kids.
We flew JetBlue, a first, I'm a Southwest girl, but I'm impressed with them. We took 6 22-inch carryons, no checked bags so no fees, plenty of free inflight snacks and entertainment, and the most legroom Ive had since I was 6 and got to sit in 1st class cause daddy was paying.
Fellow parents: last week of feb is the week for Disney. Cheap flights, cheap hotels, no crowds.
Momof4 at February 26, 2018 5:50 AM
Indeed, we're still waiting for Amy's first words about the replication crisis.
Crid at February 26, 2018 5:51 AM
I just haven't discussed the replication crisis here. I'm putting Nosek and Open Science in my next book.
Even Ioannidis has some problems: Steven Goodman and Sander Greenland, "Why Most Published Research Findings Are False: Problems in the Analysis"
http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0040168
Nick Brown on Wansink (Cornell food lab): http://steamtraen.blogspot.fr/2017/03/cornell-salutes-americas-teenage-female.html?m=1
More on Nick Brown and Wansink: https://retractionwatch.com/2017/11/28/hundreds-hours-work-vindicated-critic-food-researcher-reacts-new-retraction/
PS Don't put as many links in your comment or it will go to spam. I'm doing it from within my software.
Amy Alkon at February 26, 2018 5:58 AM
Kewl.
Dear Olds—
Whitlock-Loder-Cosh-Me-You: It's precision of the harmony that reminds us how those guys got famous.
Crid at February 26, 2018 6:05 AM
For those interested in reading research reports in the media and understanding them, an important thing to look at is how they state the stats. There's relative risk versus absolute risk. This is a good primer.
http://ecp.acponline.org/janfeb00/primer.htm
"An absolute difference is a subtraction; a relative difference is a ratio."
Amy Alkon at February 26, 2018 6:06 AM
Momof4: yes, I've randomly gotten a TSA Precheck notation on my boarding passes now and again without having to pay for it. I think that's a sneaky advertising campaign on the TSA's part.
This has never stopped the True Believer prohibitionist.
https://reason.com/archives/2016/06/21/what-will-gun-controllers-do-when-americ
I R A Darth Aggie at February 26, 2018 6:17 AM
I was assured this was unpossible.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-young-sorenson-male-domestic-abuse-20180222-story.html
I R A Darth Aggie at February 26, 2018 6:18 AM
Hey! How many times have I said things like this on this very blog?
Answer: A bunch.Crid at February 26, 2018 6:22 AM
From Crids linke to the replication issue we see this:
You might want to apply some of the things forensic accounting has learned. One may be able to suss out some of that made up data. Now, if the datamongers are truely clever, it will be very hard to spot. But never attribute to cleverness what can be adequately explained by laziness and pseduo-random number generators.
And gradual students doing the actual grunt work.
I R A Darth Aggie at February 26, 2018 6:36 AM
Amy, Cosh sent this. From 2007.
I haven't actually been keeping up with the news....
Crid at February 26, 2018 6:44 AM
Science is a process, not an endpoint. Good science involves correcting errors in past work -- but science is done by humans and is plagued by confirmation bias and all the rest of human flaws.
I am writing a medical expose now. It's terrifying what errors mean to people. If I am undercritical about social science, you might ask a girl out the wrong way. If a medical researcher gets something wrong, your sister might die.
Amy Alkon at February 26, 2018 6:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XYG7ttpEk8
Good gosh, the music is so in sync w/ the fight scene starting at 4:37...like an opera without lyrics, just people dying all over the place...culminating at 6:45 w/ the eerie music, then the drums as Keanu is stepping on to the car...the music and the movements are perfect together, like Jesse Ventura said: wrestling is ballet w/ violence. Not to mention when Keanu gets angry at 3:35
Stinky the Clown at February 26, 2018 6:53 AM
I often get TSA pre-check, which I presume is due to my, erm, status with the DoD. In my experience, it's almost worthless. At many airports (PHX, I'm lookin' at you), the precheck lines are only open during the very busiest hours. Any other time, you have to go through the regular line. At STL, the precheck line is seldom any shorter or less time-consuming than the regular line, so all it does is keep you from having to take your shoes off. (In theory, you can avoid taking your laptop out of your bag. But I have to travel with a CPAP machine, and it must always be removed from the bag, and if you have that, they usually want your laptop removed too.) Ironically, the one place where it consistently saves me time is at my home airport, where the precheck line is quick and the people are usually courteous.
I remember one time, pre-9/11, when I had to hand-carry an oscilloscope onto a flight. If I tried that today, I'd probably get strip-searched and have my entire family history investigated.
Cousin Dave at February 26, 2018 6:57 AM
Something Mark Twain is supposed to have said: Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint.
Yes, Democrats, please do:
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/289667/
I R A Darth Aggie at February 26, 2018 6:58 AM
Well, the California Democratic Party refused to endorse Diane Feinstein at its recent convention, preferring progressive state senator Kevin de Leon, but not enough to endorse him either.
Feinstein, while still pretty moonbat liberal, has at least held a job with executive level responsibility (mayor of San Francisco) and, thus, understands that not all liberal/academic policies make good governance. As such, she's unacceptable to the left wing of the Democratic Party.
The preferred candidate, de Leon, has not. He is a former "educator teaching US citizenship courses" and a former community organizer. He is an advocate for the California Teachers' Association, as well as a member. He was instrumental in passing the law that gave California driver's licenses to illegal immigrants and has advocated illegal immigrant friendly policies.
He is an advocate of gun control and has pushed policies that restrict sales of handgun ammunition. In that, he may be no better than Feinstein and her "assault weapons" ban.
At a press conference, de Leon displayed his ignorance about guns, claiming the AR-15 could "disperse 30 bullets in half a second" and could accept a "30 caliber magazine clip."
He is a proponent of the affirmative consent standard in California colleges and universities.
Conan the Grammarian at February 26, 2018 7:36 AM
> Science is a process
Yeahyeah, just saying, Ioannidis' slapback was so fast I didn't even see it.
And actually, if I'd noted the date of Goodman/Greenland challenge, I'd have ignored it entirely.
This is the kind of 'confession' offered by someone whose impact on the flow of world events is generational, and perhaps game-changing and Godsent.
Ioannidis has made his mark, and double-checked his penmanship at every stroke.
Crid at February 26, 2018 8:00 AM
And alas, my beloved (and redheaded and hardheaded) sister is now perfectly safe.
Crid at February 26, 2018 8:03 AM
The scourge of manspreading that was so pervasive an ordinance for the subway had to be passed lest the transit authority be accused of sexism has its first sacrificial lamb
Oh they arrested a woman? Well thats just sexist, and probably racist too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3NQ28fVm2E
I fucking LOVE irony
lujlp at February 26, 2018 9:33 AM
Even if you enjoy a product now & then, perusing this list reminds you how much of Hollywood's celebrated product is lousy.
Crid at February 26, 2018 9:50 AM
Good article on male violence -
http://quillette.com/2018/02/24/behavioral-ecology-male-violence/
Snoopy at February 26, 2018 12:50 PM
Not a gun guy, and I'm struggling to maintain a middle posture, but this.
Crid at February 26, 2018 1:28 PM
Quite.
Crid at February 26, 2018 1:32 PM
”Hopefully its the same story heading home. Because no one is "patting down" any of my kids.”
Yeah, because the wishes of the passenger are always foremost in the minds of the TSA… They will totally do what you want.
Let us know how much your bail is.
I hear some handcuffs are comfortable, so you won’t mind wearing them.
Radwaste at February 26, 2018 1:52 PM
A couple years back an enlightened smarter-than-you woperson and suspiciously congruent commentmob agreed that hetero sex is always rape.
Always.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at February 26, 2018 2:03 PM
A couple years back an enlightened smarter-than-you woperson and suspiciously congruent commentmob agreed that hetero sex is always rape.
Catherine MacKinnon and Andrea Dworkin called to say welcome to the party, pal! I guess late is better than never.
I R A Darth Aggie at February 26, 2018 2:34 PM
Let us know how much your bail is.
I can scratch up a couple of bucks. TSA probably sees actual paying customers as an imposition on their free time.
I R A Darth Aggie at February 26, 2018 2:37 PM
Deer Google, you might want to rethink this. If not, DOJ should contemplate opening an anti-trust investigation, IMO. Or you should be thankful that "net neutrality" was rescinded.
https://twitter.com/TheBrandonMorse/status/968228986554855429/photo/1
I did the AR-15 search, and it came up null. I also did a search on AK-47, and google returned results. One of which is a hoodie that says "My AK-47 identifies as a bolt action".
I R A Darth Aggie at February 26, 2018 2:45 PM
Seems like someone should have brushed up on his Florida government class or taken one.
https://twitter.com/charlescwcooke/status/968113338256449536
I R A Darth Aggie at February 26, 2018 2:55 PM
Cam Paglia, V&T, p. 109:
After that, some of what she says gets kind of personal and pointed.Crid at February 26, 2018 2:55 PM
Would totally d̶a̶t̶e̶ vote for Stacy Dash. That child is stunning.
Crid at February 26, 2018 3:18 PM
Conservative Mona Charen: "I’m Glad I Got Booed at CPAC"
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/25/opinion/im-glad-i-got-booed-at-cpac.html
Excerpts:
"...So you’d think that the Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, would be a natural fit. It once was. But on Saturday, after speaking to this year’s gathering, I had to be escorted from the premises by several guards who seemed genuinely concerned for my safety...
"...My panel was about the #MeToo movement, which was a natural for me since my new book coming out in June, “Sex Matters,” grapples with the movement and other aspects of our fraught sexual ecosystem.
"After every woman on the panel had a chance to speak and with 10 minutes remaining on the clock, the moderator threw a slow pitch right over the plate. She asked us about feminist hypocrisy. Ask me that at a cocktail party and I will talk your ear off about how the very people who had lectured us about the utter venality of workplace sexual harassment throughout the 1980s became suddenly quiescent when the malefactor was Bill Clinton.
"But this time, and particularly in front of this crowd, it felt far more urgent to point out the hypocrisy of our side. How can conservative women hope to have any credibility on the subject of sexual harassment or relations between the sexes when they excuse the behavior of President Trump? And how can we participate in any conversation about sexual ethics when the Republican president and the Republican Party backed a man credibly accused of child molestation for the United States Senate?
"I watched my fellow panelists’ eyes widen. And then the booing began.
"I’d been dreading it for days, but when it came, I almost welcomed it. There is nothing more freeing than telling the truth. And it must be done, again and again, by those of us who refuse to be absorbed into this brainless, sinister, clownish thing called Trumpism, by those of us who refuse to overlook the fools, frauds and fascists attempting to glide along in his slipstream into respectability..."
lenona at February 26, 2018 3:19 PM
More details:
https://www.google.com/search?ei=fJSUWuTiIMzusQWYoqmQDQ&q=mona+charen+cpac&oq=mona+charen+cpac&gs_l=psy-ab.3...6726.7893.0.8040.5.5.0.0.0.0.112.501.2j3.5.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.2.214...0j0i131k1j0i22i30k1.0.X7CpITKtlVI
lenona at February 26, 2018 3:20 PM
Skool
Crid at February 26, 2018 3:27 PM
MSNBC anchor, Laurence O'Donnell, says AR-15s shoot too fast, so armed teachers would stand no chance of stopping an AR-15 armed shooter.
Um, a 9mm handgun has a muzzle velocity of about 1,200 feet per second. An AR-15 has a muzzle velocity of about 3,300 fps. Of course, this depends upon the ammunition used.
So, technically O'Donnell is correct with the 3x metric, but we're talking about a difference of 1/10th of a second or less. Both bullets break the speed of sound (1,125 fps).
I'm not sure I get what he's saying; that the school shooter would duck out of the way of the teacher's shot and hit the teacher with his faster AR-15 shot? Has O'Donnell ever tried to duck a handgun shot?
I've got a 1909 revolver that shoots an anemic 750 fps and I dare O'Donnell to try and dodge that.
If the Left wants to argue gun control, do so. Don't try and impress people with a tenuous grasp of the technical details of guns. There be monsters.
Conan the Grammarian at February 26, 2018 3:58 PM
Pathetic.
Crid at February 26, 2018 4:09 PM
Presumably Larry O'scary was trying to discuss rate of fire.
Crid at February 26, 2018 4:11 PM
If the Left wants to argue gun control, do so. Don't try and impress people with a tenuous grasp of the technical details of guns. There be monsters.
Conan the Grammarian at February 26, 2018 3:58 PM
Seems like the left learned everything they know about guns from watching their teenage sons play Call of Duty for about five minutes.
Isab at February 26, 2018 4:17 PM
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Breaking News Update!
Crid at February 26, 2018 4:20 PM
Crid:
I'm sure China's air pollution would be a lot worse if they DID have clothes dryers. (Which is not to say there's no way of having the best of both worlds - I just don't know what it could be.)
Conan:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/23/opinion/arming-teachers.html
There are four letters. Here's one:
To the Editor:
Let’s consider for a moment the imbecility of the suggestion that teachers be armed and ready to return fire in the event of another school shooting. If the perpetrator is a student at the school, the teachers would be firing at a child; how many teachers do you know who would actually do this?
In the event of a firefight, there is the possibility of friendly-fire casualties; how many teachers would be willing to take that risk?
We already ask too much of teachers: We ask them to work for little pay in underfunded, overflowing classrooms, and they do. They do because they are committed to their mission to educate, nurture and help the next generations succeed.
To our president and members of Congress: Go ahead and ask that same person to take on the responsibility of potentially killing a student, friendly-fire or otherwise, and see what response you get.
BROOKE JONES, HONOLULU
lenona at February 26, 2018 4:32 PM
Well, they're both semi-automatic firearms (one trigger pull per shot). So they only shoot as quickly as you can pull the trigger. So, they shoot at the same rate of fire.
Conan the Grammarian at February 26, 2018 4:32 PM
Lenona, let's not deify teachers. I'm sure plenty of them would be willing to shoot back at a student killing his fellow students. At least as willing as a Palm Beach County Sheriff's deputy would be, or a School Resource Officer of the Year candidate.
And I believe the idea is not to arm every teacher, just enough of them to create a deference to anyone thinking about taking guns to school - like Sky Marshalls.
Perhaps not a great plan, since the random presence of Sky Marshalls does not seem to have deterred hijackers.
Conan the Grammarian at February 26, 2018 4:38 PM
"Let’s consider for a moment the imbecility of the suggestion that teachers be armed and ready to return fire in the event of another school shooting. If the perpetrator is a student at the school, the teachers would be firing at a child; how many teachers do you know who would actually do this?"
This is another example of there being no link whatsoever between education, reason and outrage on social media - and of the pervasive atmosphere of fear in the USA, possibly indicative of an epidemic producing emotional infirmity, such as that exhibited by Alzheimer's victims.
You must fear. It's mandatory.
• This "imbecility" is already in place in Utah.
• A teacher - the single person encountering the killer - will not be "firing at a child"; they'll be firing at a deluded monster who has decided to kill and maim others, including the teacher. Go tell that coach in Florida a "child" killed him.
Larry Correia already addressed this.
Radwaste at February 26, 2018 7:06 PM
I'm not sure how some people have built up these shooters as being a cross between a Terminator and John Rambo, with a dash of John Wick thrown in for good measure.
These turkeys are still human. And for the most part are not well trained - Call of Duty doesn't count. They know how to operate their weapons, and they're quite willing to shoot people who are unarmed. But they're not going to kill you with a fucking pencil.
They're still subject to the same fight or flight emotions they're inflicting on their victims, and they're also liable to fall prey to target lock, the narrowing of their vision to only see the things in front of them, and not the person behind them that's about to put bullet in their head. Or back. Remember: they're is no shoot to wound.
Go and review the John Wick, Chapter 2 trailer. In particular, the scene where he is in confined space with an AR of some sort (or perhaps an M-16/4?). Aimed shots, very particular, disciplined and keeps his head on a swivel.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-texas-school-armed-20180222-story.html
I R A Darth Aggie at February 26, 2018 8:15 PM
I'm a pro-Constitution kinda guy so how about we remove taxpayer-funded armed protection from our politicians and see how the voting goes?
Because I'm pretty damned certain those shmoes don't want the drunken hotheads on the other side of the aisle packin' heat on the job.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at February 26, 2018 8:57 PM
I see that the President has said he would have run into the Florida high school to stop the shooter, "...even if I didn't have a weapon."
This is exactly what ANY person in power should be prepared to do.
Can you imagine your favorite public figure doing that? If not, maybe they shouldn't BE your favorite.
What would Hillary have done?
Radwaste at February 26, 2018 9:00 PM
Until the shooting actually starts, let's take with a grain of salt any claims of what any would-be heroes would have done.
Unless the would-be hero has a history of rushing into danger to save people, any claim that he would have is just an empty boast; and even then it's still up in the air as each situation is different and who knows when even a real hero will lose his nerve.
Even on this forum, we've had posters tell us what heroes they would have been in various situations, but when asked to back it up by telling us when they really were a hero, they went silent.
In college, I worked in a grocery store. Every night we had a police officer hired to guard the store before closing, prime time to rob us. One night, Officer O'Brien was standing by the register I was cleaning when the high school student sweeping nearby asked her if she wore a bullet-proof vest. She knocked on her chest and said "always" although she expressed doubts about the "proof" part of that description.
Our would-be Rambo declared he would not wear one, as a vest would only slow him down. She went into a detailed description of what a bullet wound does to a human body and said she would always wear one, given a choice. I, having stayed out of the conversation up to this point, nodded and said I was with her. He repeated his assertion that he needed the freedom of movement that being sans vest would give him.
Officer O'Brien and I looked at each other and shook our heads. What a dumbass. Everybody's a hero when the guns are silent.
Having had guns pointed at me, both in anger and in stupidity, I'd take the vest. I'd like to think that I'd run into the school to save people, but I hope I never have to find out.
Conan the Grammarian at February 27, 2018 6:03 AM
"How can conservative women hope to have any credibility on the subject of sexual harassment or relations between the sexes when they excuse the behavior of President Trump? And how can we participate in any conversation about sexual ethics when the Republican president and the Republican Party backed a man credibly accused of child molestation for the United States Senate?"
Answer: Because the Trumpian conservatives no longer give a damn. They've figured out that the Left views civilized behavior as a weakness to be exploited, and that Washington has become its own most important constituency. The Tea Party was the last try at doing things the old-fashioned way. Charen is a good and thoughtful writer, but she's a product of her time and she doesn't understand the new rules of engagement.
Cousin Dave at February 27, 2018 6:42 AM
"They're still subject to the same fight or flight emotions they're inflicting on their victims, and they're also liable to fall prey to target lock, the narrowing of their vision to only see the things in front of them, and not the person behind them that's about to put bullet in their head. "
One of the things they emphasize to us in our active-shooter training is that these shooters are usually acting in a state of adrenaline and excitability that they have no experience with, so their operational effectiveness, if you will, is actually quite poor. Most of the shots they take miss, and it's common for them to miss a target that is only a few feet away. Most of the casualties that they inflict occur when they fire into groups or crowds of people, where it's almost impossible to miss. The solution to this is: disperse. Don't gather. This is why "shelter in place" is a terrible idea.
These shooters are also highly distractable. One tactic is to throw something that will make a lot of noise when it hits the floor. The shooter will turn their focus to where the noise came from -- they might even fire at it. This creates a significant opportunity for either escape or counterattack.
Cousin Dave at February 27, 2018 6:53 AM
How can modern feminists hope to have any credibility on the subject of sexual harassment or relations between the sexes who they fervently back stories that are easily proven false (UVA fraternity, Duke lacrosse, etc.), go apoplectic at innocent touching, and cry rape with equal fervor whether the case is a knife-wielding thug or arguably little more than morning-after regret?
How can modern feminists have any credibility when they fervently backed a woman who actively covered up her husband's sexual harassment and credible rape accusation? And never expressed any regret for having done so?
Given the modern hysteria over relations between the sexes, no one party or viewpoint has more credibility than the other. It's a goat rodeo.
Conan the Grammarian at February 27, 2018 7:32 AM
"Until the shooting actually starts, let's take with a grain of salt any claims of what any would-be heroes would have done."
Okay, I'll take that bait:
Of the number of people who state they would run INTO danger, what percentage will actually DO that...
As opposed to the percentage of those who remain silent, or state that they will NOT?
There are a lot of people who buy the idea that it's "someone else's" job to defend women and children - and/or that the common American simply cannot cope, no matter what. Not me.
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Heh. And again - what would Hillary say?
Radwaste at February 27, 2018 11:49 AM
Sometimes it won't be boasting.
Radwaste at February 27, 2018 11:52 AM
Well, until crunch time comes, I'll take your profession of bravado with a grain of salt.
A combat veteran once told me that he never answered questions of what it's like because if you've never been there, words aren't enough and if you have, words aren't necessary.
As such, absolute professions of "I would..." bravado are too often given with no idea what it's like when the bullets are flying.
Sometimes it won't. Sometimes, it will.
I wonder if Deputy Peterson ever boasted that he would lead the charge if a mass shooter came to Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School. If he did, I'll bet he thought he would at the time.
I wonder if Coach Feis ever thought he'd be tested with something like this, or ever bragged that he would be heroic if he was.
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Conan the Grammarian at February 27, 2018 2:03 PM
the Republican Party backed a man credibly accused of child molestation for the United States Senate?
I'd still dispute that. Of the women accusing him all but one was OVER the legal age of consent for the state and I honestly cant recall one saying he used force of violence - nor was there any reports of him sleeping around after marrying his wife
On the accusations of the lady who was 14 at the time, there were a couple problems with her story, and as far as I can tell not one reporter ever asked her mother to corroborate what her daughter said she said.
That being said 14 is skeevy and I cant think of a reason a woman of that age would make such an accusation given she had nothing to gain after all this time
lujlp at February 27, 2018 3:12 PM
"Well, until crunch time comes, I'll take your profession of bravado with a grain of salt."
Go right ahead, because I am not here to please you. I suspect you'll hide and Isab would go in. Meanwhile, the percentage of those who claim they will act, who then DO act, is greater than those who claim otherwise - even though the deadliest person I've ever met said nothing whatsoever about his actions; it took the arrival of his mostly redacted service record for the command to learn of them.
I know many people personally who have served and come under fire. Guess what they say?
Hillary - you know, the "adult" candidate - came under sniper fire overseas according to her. I bet she's guarding a school right now.
Radwaste at February 27, 2018 8:02 PM
Hillary's full of crap, Raddy. And I suspect you are too. But I hope you never have to find out for real if you'll hide or go in.
Conan the Grammarian at February 27, 2018 8:37 PM
Trump is a HERO! He's PHYSICALLY COURAGEOUS! He's brilliant negotiator who gets discounts on airliners (except that time he defaulted on his own airline in 1990)...
Crid at February 28, 2018 7:36 AM
...And all because he loves you, the people who voted for him.
Crid at February 28, 2018 7:38 AM
Would totally d̶a̶t̶e̶ vote for Stacy Dash. That child is stunning."
So - you voted for Mary Carey for governor a few years ago, eh?
Radwaste at March 3, 2018 3:46 AM
"Hillary's full of crap, Raddy. And I suspect you are too. But I hope you never have to find out for real if you'll hide or go in."
Well, I have been tested by electrical fires and explosions and run towards the problem rather than away from it. I also have no fear whatsoever of guns - it is the person, not the tool, that must be countered.
And my points stand:
• The percentage of people who claim they will run IN to a building to try to save kids from a shooter is larger than that of those who say nothing or that they will run away
• I have testimony from veterans of Middle East service - who have been shot at - that THEY would go in.
May you find your way as pleasant.
Radwaste at March 3, 2018 3:52 AM
Testimony? Well, I guess "testimony" trumps mere conversation.
And as for your veterans' "testimony," they have been tested. My comment was primarily driven by those who have not, who have never heard shots fired in anger, and yet boast about their projected heroism - as illustrated by my young coworker who dismissively eschewed the use of bullet-proof vests as a hinderance to his fantasized heroics versus the officer who had actually faced bullets fired at her and preferred Kevlar to kung fu heroics.
I suspect that's true since very few people will openly admit that they would run away or do nothing when people are in danger.
Raddy, I sincerely hope you never have to put that statement to the test.
Conan the Grammarian at March 3, 2018 7:59 AM
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