In general I did not support Trump and was not happy with him.

BUT

It is true that people got mad at him for doing the same things Obama did, or blamed him for things out of his control, or took quotes out of context to make them look worse (which I don't get because he has so many quotes that are bad enough, I don't see why people needed to make up more, except that it seems to be human nature that once you start piling on someone you keep going whether true or false).

It also works in reverse, the right getting mad at the left for doing the same things.

And that's what bothers me, it is more about what tribe you are in than what the actual policies are.

Blah blah blah. As NicoleK says this is just another tribal nonsense piece.

What a bunch of crap. Is there no one in America who doesn't huddle in elementary-school cliques and whisper atrocities about others?

There are abundant pictures of Trump embracing Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, warmly, before any political campaign. There is video of The View (hack, spit) cheering him wildly on set.

But people lost their minds when he didn't magically give them things. All of a sudden, it was a crime to suggest that work was a solution - and the problems in Chicago were solvable, if city managers just let the police do their jobs.

Then, insanity arrived by the busload.

Trump has not changed at all in the last fifty years. While you thought he might be mean to gays, many of you voted for a woman who took money from regimes that killed them. Later, you voted for a man notable for how little he's done, with a running mate famous for imprisoning blacks.
That's how far your emotions and lack of research have led you astray, and I'm not about to let that be forgotten.

There are several things wrong here.
1) Trump respected the law. Border security is the law. When trump tried to do things to enforce that and the courts said no, he stopped. Immediately. Biden has not only issued illegal executive orders he is telling people to ignore the vax injunction.
2) He has no animus toward anyone. He hired black, gay, women in his admin. His statement about good people on both sides was about protesters. It is certainly a factual statement. The media tried to make all the conservative protesters into monsters.
3) He genuinely loved israel and instituted the Abraham accords which this admin is trying to undo.
4) He recognized that Iran, NC, china are either enemies or adversaries. Biden is all kissy kissy with dictators and tyrants. Sends $ to terrorists in Palestine and Afganistan.
5) He recognized the importance of energy whereas this admin is waging war on energy.
6) Lest I be accused of being naive, his trade policy was pretty stupid.
All politicians are somewhat pathological (as liars at least). Many high up people are sociopaths (no empathy). Sorry but this essay is just stupid.

Amy,
You posted a horseshit article by someone who thinks he is more intelligent and clever than he is. He could write an article showing how people drive to work in pirates.

Do you read more than the headlines and do you also believe that Trump told people to inject bleach?

"...Perhaps we've given Trump far more credit than he's due by imputing immorality to his incapacity to condemn white nationalism and racism"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/03/21/trump_didnt_call_neo-nazis_fine_people_heres_proof_139815.html

Like most people, we assume others parse information like we do.

Fixed it for ya. Yer welcome.

Later, you voted for a man notable for how little he's done, with a running mate famous for imprisoning blacks.

Worse than that, the 1995 crime bill is one of his shining moments of getting a bill across the finish line. A bill that empowered his running mate to imprison people of many stripes. If you need a refresher on what a horrible person she was as California AG:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/03/08/justice-honesty-government-prosecutor-column/24611623/

6) Lest I be accused of being naive, his trade policy was pretty stupid.
All politicians are somewhat pathological (as liars at least). Many high up people are sociopaths (no empathy). Sorry but this essay is just stupid.

cc at November 11, 2021 5:40 AM

In my mind, decoupling from China in every way possible is never a bad idea.

The looters, the grifters, Facebook, Google and the naïvely dumb but ambitious boys and girls of your local high school student council are now running the country. It isn’t an improvement.

…….in fact, it is a fucking disaster, visible from Alpha Centauri

Now, now. All of us veterans on Veterans Day appreciate how President Biden took a moment during his speech to mention Satchel Paige, or as he referred to him, 'the great Negro'.

I blame Trump.

And listen, you can't say Biden is slipping just because he released the report condemning the Saudis for slaughtering the journalist Khashoggi and then turned around and agreed to sell them $650M worth of weapons like nothing happened.

I mean the report was released in February and the sale was announced in November. Who can remember anything from way back then? It's impossible!

Greenfield seems to have started with the same misquote that the mainstream media seems unable to shake its addiction to. That kind of sloppy research. selective editing, or intended bias makes his article useless drivel, as David H points out.

There were, in fact, three groups at Charlottesville. The people who were lawfully protesting the removal of statues, the Alt-Right who wanted to get involved and stir up trouble, and the Alt-Left counter-protesters who also mostly wanted to stir up trouble. Trump was not referring to that second group in that quote, as a full reading of what he said made very clear. Greenfield is an idiot if he still doesn't understand what was said..

The "fine people" quote has been so thoroughly discussed and explained that I thought only committed CNN people would even dare try to raise it again. You know, the people who care not one whit about the truth of what they say, so long as all of their buddies can sagely nod in agreement and bond in their Trump-hate.

Disappointing to see it here.

Hey Amy---
Did you post this because you are afraid you will be cancelled and have a burning hammer and sickle in front of your home in your Venice progressive paradise? Are you apologizing to you neighbors for your Libertarian leanings?

Your headline "Misunderstanding Trump (As A Tribal "Yoohoo, I'm With You!" Or Out Of Lazy Thinking)"
describes your lazy thinking in thinking his blather has any relevance.

"Over grilled steak the other night, I spoke with a few people who are in the CEO class,"

Meanwhile, over Taco Bell leftovers, a few people in the Worker Bee class are trying to figure out how to pay for a gallon of gas.

There is some truth to Greenfield's characterization of Trump as a narcissist. But it's as exaggerated as Trump's own bloviating. Trump is more moral than most politicians. What alienates most of them, and the Hollywood crowd, is that Trump has never accepted contributions from lobbyists, like those he gave out when he was in the real estate business. Sure, he is not as rich as Bloomberg, but Trump has all the money he feels he needs, so more doesn't tempt him. If he wanted more he would have stayed in, or gone back into, real estate.

Harry Truman said there is no way an honest member of Congress could become a millionaire while in office. Look at the changes in net worth of most members: they flunk Truman's test. Now look at Trump's. He lost half a billion dollars after going into politics, and then refused his salary as president. That to me makes him more moral than the lot of them, regardless of his sex life.

As for the accusations of racism, that's BS and everybody competent knows it. Both January 6 and Charleston were planned as peaceful, non-racist demonstrations. Then the FBI and Soros/BLM sent agents provocateurs to make them look racist and to incite violence while blaming the victims. As a result it is no longer possible for the Right to have a peaceful demonstration unless we keep those two groups from finding out about it. Just like Big Tech the FBI is all about shutting up anyone who contradicts their propaganda narrative. This is why they're still holding all those political prisoners.

Thank you for even bringing those topics up Jdgalt1. Most don't want to hear about it.