Some Like It Grim
On Slate, Meghan O'Rourke spanks the old white guys playing out their midlife crises by pontificating on the sad, pathetic sex lives of young women:
The need to tell young women how to behave often comes over middle-aged men—it's an itch right up there with buying a flashy new car. And Mansfield's case for modesty is merely a new version of, say, Leon Kass' argument in "The End of Courtship," a 1997 article currently posted on the Public Interest Web site, which I happened to stumble across after reading Mansfield's remarks. One similarity between them is particularly worth note. Mansfield and Kass don't suggest that female sexual activity is immoral or wrong. They suggest that it makes women unhappy: "Young women strike me as sad, lonely, and confused," Kass writes, voicing an avuncular worry about our "grim" lives. Like Mansfield, he goes on to express concern that contemporary sexuality isn't morally but erotically bankrupt. The best sex, he argues, is stimulated by reading poets like Shelley, and, "if properly sublimated, is transformable into genuine and lofty longings—not only for love and romance but for all the other higher human yearnings." Reading these two pieces back to back, one finds oneself envisioning conservative elders gathered over brunch with teary-eyed twentysomethings, Sex and the City-style, nodding and patting hands: I feel your pain, honey, they soothe. And I'll tell you how to really get your groove on. First, go get a ring.Forty years after the sexual revolution of the 1960s, the terms of the debate over sexuality have irrevocably changed, and it is curious to watch middle-aged male traditionalists trying to keep up. If they have not quite absorbed the notion that women need to have a voice in shaping their own sexual identity, they acknowledge that it is no longer permissible, or at any rate very popular, simply to pronounce that premarital sex is wrong. Thus they cast the sexual revolution as something that makes women unhappy, couching their critique in the fuzzy language of gratification and personal gain that we Oprah-raised kids can relate to. Beneath Kass' pronouncements on what is erotic is a struggle not to come off as a prude; beneath Mansfield's, a quest to establish his credentials as not anti-sex. By adopting a soft stance of empathy, they conveniently skirt the need to supply any facts and figures about just what is going on in the hearts and bedrooms of America's youth.
In a way, this shift in rhetoric (from morality to gratification) makes it look like the argument about the criteria Americans should use to shape our ideas about relationships and marriage has already been settled. But it's more complicated than this. There's something slippery about the "sex will make you unhappy" position. It relies on a retrograde notion of female vulnerability while pretending to take women's side. It's offered in the name of an open-mindedness that is something of a pretense: Professor Mansfield does not exactly wish that sexual freedom had panned out for us—or recognize the extent to which it has. He presumes, for example, that all women have similar experiences and want the same things: love and marriage, the baby in the baby carriage, and so forth. Finally, this position holds women responsible for the supposed unwillingness of American young people to get with the marriage program and settle down. But what evidence is there that women are deeply unhappy in their sexual relationships with men? And if women really are, why is it up to them to "fix" what's broken by insisting on early marriage rather than on, say, serial monogamy followed by marriage later? If things are so bad, how do we explain the fact that social indicators are, for the most part, on an uptick over the past decade?
I've been having "sad, lonely, and confused" premarital sex for a whole lot of years, and I have to say, I highly recommend it.







Speaking as a middle-aged vanilla male, I find these reported attitudes incomprehensible. I don't know anyone who thinks like that. My message to young (strike the "young", actually) women contemplating extramarital sex is "Go for it".
Stu "El Inglés" Harris at November 15, 2005 7:06 AM
> The need to tell young women how to behave
> often comes over middle-aged men
Hey! Let ME try now!
> He presumes, for example, that all women
> have similar experiences and want the same
> things
Anyone who makes any sort of social observation is accused of this, of drawing from badly selected samples.
I'm a white guy on the saggy side of the fifth decade. Year in and year out, the most powerful facet of human nature that I didn't see coming --and that the popular tongue never warned me about-- is the need many (if not most) women feel to have and raise children.
Dr. Drew calls this need "erotic", which is clever. Because it works out about as well as most kinds of eroticism that people don't treat with discipline... That is, it works out BADLY.
Now, who's got my blood pressure pills, and why are those kids listening to that thumpy music?
Crid at November 15, 2005 7:37 AM
I have to grudgingly admit though, that it's a masterpiece of passive aggressive psychology by the old white guys to go from saying "you filthy sluts are BAD" to "why you poor little SAD filthy slut..doncha know marriage will make it all better?".
I give them points for sheer nerve.
Jody Tresidder at November 15, 2005 9:28 AM
I think she's guilty of the same over-generalizations that she accuses in others. In addition, she tends to cherry-pick her statistics without really answering the questions she asks.
nash at November 15, 2005 9:29 AM
Although it seems like the majority of people now accept premarital sexual relationships, especially committed ones, there's still plenty of stigma attached to just plain old sex. Did you notice, for example, when the LA Times published an essay about a woman who had a one night stand and what a coward the guy was afterwards, that a few days later there was the obligatory letter to the editor about what a sad, sad life she must have to have (gasp!) had a one night stand. It might have been her only one ever, but someone still felt the need to chide her.
Pat Saperstein at November 15, 2005 11:08 AM
I think I have found somebody who trumps this guy for sheer retro-nuttiness(this made me want to chew glass and I am a white, middle-aged male):
http://www.savethemales.ca/040902.html
Russputin at November 15, 2005 11:34 AM
Fortunately, the savethemales guy doesn't waste words telling us what he thinks, e.g: "Feminists today believe that heterosexuality is intrinsically oppressive, and lesbianism is the only alternative for women."
Unfortunately, his blog is no fun at all.
Jody Tresidder at November 15, 2005 12:48 PM
Hey, Amy, I think you've missed part of this, at least.
Guys in their 40s & 50s have daughters, and they don't want said daughters to either slip up and get pregnant by mistake, get a venereal disease, OR treat other people like popsicles (lick 'em until they're gone, go get another one).
Also, older guys of conscience have trouble seriously envisioning sex with women the age of their own daughter - or younger. The lust is there, but experience tells them (a least it tells me) that those days are past, that fulfillment comes from relationships featuring witful conversation and pride in the abilities of one's partner in broad daylight. The odds of this happening go up with the amount of time spent learning how to live around here. It's not exactly common ground that is sought, but common elements are needed to communicate when moaning isn't enough.Radwaste at November 15, 2005 4:00 PM
The problem is, there are a lot of different people out there with a lot of different ways of living, and the "sad" sexuality isn't my experience of it whatsoever.
Amy Alkon at November 15, 2005 8:13 PM
Women of all ages have been telling men how to behave for ages.
Jack Dumas at November 24, 2005 10:56 AM
women of all ages have been telling men how to behaves for ages. Does the phrase all men are ... ring a bell
Jack Dumas at November 24, 2005 10:58 AM
"Women of all ages have been telling men how to behave for ages."
And?
Amy Alkon at November 24, 2005 2:24 PM
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