When Pigs Fly
Actually, they take off every minute from airports around the world. And when they aren't on planes, throwing their trash on the floor, they're leaving it behind in movie theaters or throwing their towels all over the bathroom floor in health clubs.
Is it sort of a revenge thing? (A misplaced revenge thing, that is?) Maybe people want to say "screw you" for paying what they consider a high price for their movie or plane ticket or health club membership. But, who are they screwing? In my friend Lauren's case -- the teacher who brings me in to speak at the high school -- it's the little old ladies who clean up at her health club. And on airlines or in movie theaters, it isn't the owner or board of directors down on their knees -- it's some low wage employee.
Pilot Patrick Smith writes about pigs on planes on Salon:
Dear passenger: Look, I know it's a long flight, and I realize that, at least in your mind, commercial air carriers are the most malevolent entities the universe has ever known, fully deserving of your disrespect. But must you? Must you throw your damn garbage all over the floor?The amount of post-flight trash littering the floor of airplanes is more or less proportional to the time spent aloft, but the sheer volume of litter can be astonishing even after a short flight. The photograph accompanying this column was snapped after a flight from Europe to the U.S. Can you make out the quarter-pound of Pringles, mashed into the carpet like sawdust? Or the plastic bags, wrappers, crackers and assorted other debris?
...Such detritus is normal after a flight. And all of it, of course, needs to be reckoned with prior to the next takeoff. Recently at Kennedy airport I watched a cleaning crew -- 10 or so Dominicans and Venezuelans ranging from ages 21 to about 50 -- tackling the leftovers of 200 passengers. Truth be told, overseas cabin cleaners tend to do a much better job than those in the States, but this particular crew had only a half-hour to tidy up a 767 cabin that looked as if a typhoon had blown through it. The end result was, well, acceptable if not immaculate.
Their job would be a lot easier, and airplane cabins would on the whole be cleaner, if only customers had the decency to pick up after themselves. People don't act this way on public buses or subway cars, but they tend to show a lot less restraint when flying. There are some reasons for this, I know: You are seated for an extended period of time in cramped quarters, and it's not as if there's a waste receptacle at every seat. But I'm afraid that is not a good enough excuse for, say, leaving leaky Chinese food cartons or a half-eaten Chick-fil-A sandwich under your feet. Litter is one thing; garbage is something else. It's common to find apple cores, wads of chewing gum and even sullied diapers stuffed into a seat pocket.
In the comments, there's all sorts of boohooing about how hard it is to bend down to pick stuff up. I don't know about you, but I consider it very rude to leave a bunch of stuff on the floor, and neatly place my trash in the bag I've brought it in (because I don't eat airline food, except on long flights) and hand it to the flight attendant with my cup. And I don't leave some little present in the pocket for the next person. And I don't drop stuff all over the floor, period. Accidents happen, sure...but at every seat on the plane?
And, then, in a movie theater, if I have a cup of something, I take the cup out with me and throw it away. Same for when I used to eat popcorn. How hard is that?
And in a health club...while I don't belong to one, I have in the past. When you throw that towel on the bathroom floor, do you think it will grow wings and fly into the hamper, or do you think somebody might have to pick up after you?
My feeling: If you wouldn't throw it on your own floor, don't throw it on somebody else's.







I think it's a combination of sloth and entitlement. If I may blogwhore, I see the same thing at the park where I play disc golf.
It's a private park, and there's a parking fee. Some people park in the street and walk into the park to avoid paying $3-$5 for parking. Others just dump their litter wherever they like. There are garbage cans at a few of the tees, and throughout the park. But no, they put the stuff behind or under the logs that serve as benches. I guess they figure nobody will notice.
I did. I cleaned up after them once. Next time, I'll ask permission from the park management to put up signs in the hopes of embarrassing at least a few of them to haul their own garbage.
brian at July 18, 2009 8:09 AM
We've raised them to have self esteem, deserved or not. Why shouldn't superior people do what they like?
/sarcasm
Once again, I'm going to say it. It takes parents who care, teachers who care, that icky religion thing (do unto others), or the Marine Corps (fall in, and police the area people) to impart a sense of responsibility to some people. The rest just don't care. Why should they?
MarkD at July 18, 2009 8:20 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2009/07/when-pigs-fly-1.html#comment-1658925">comment from MarkDIt isn't just 21-year-olds or kids doing this. And belief in god and contribution to the business that is religion may be for the gullible, but "do unto others" has great value.
Why should people care? Well, I couldn't like myself if I threw stuff on the floor.
Amy Alkon
at July 18, 2009 8:49 AM
My 84 year old grandmother goes ballistic about this stuff. She also can go nine rounds about how people board planes without taking a shower and looking like they just rolled out of bed in their PJ's.
And she doesnt own a pair of jeans either...never has,
Feebie at July 18, 2009 9:25 AM
Heh. My boyfriend yells at me for picking up after people, but I just can't stand to see crap all over the place. I'm one of those people who busses tables and picks up glasses and bottles in the local pub we go to to shoot pool, just because I'm not comfortable with garbage and debris all over the place. And, no, I don't do it for the free drink the barmaid gives me for helping her! The pub gets so busy at happy hour, she's running around like crazy and doesn't have the time to bus the tables. Takes me a couple of minutes, and I've actually refused a free drink a time or two. I know she appreciates the help, but she doesn't have to give me a free drink every time! o.O
Flynne at July 18, 2009 10:54 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2009/07/when-pigs-fly-1.html#comment-1658936">comment from FlynneI just threw away chewed gum, left crunched into a Trident wrapper, on the bathroom sink of the café I write in on Saturdays. The trash can is right next to the sink. Again, did that person think it would grow wings and fly into the trash?
Amy Alkon
at July 18, 2009 11:00 AM
I hate littering outside and only leave things in the theater or airplanes if I honestly forget (I think it's only happened a few times and it's been bottled water so at least it's not gross).
I think maybe people throwing things from their cars is the worst, because aside from the usual display of selfishness and laziness, you already have a container to hold your trash, your car itself (assuming you don't have a trash bag). The stuff you are throwing from your car can hit someone else driving, you could cause an accident. Even with cigarettes on the freeway, if you're driving behind someone flicking out their ashes you get smoldering ash on your windshield and at night you get a temporary flash of sparks in your eyes.
Stacy at July 18, 2009 12:19 PM
People are horrible pigs. I worked at a movie theater in high school, and some of the stuff left behind in those theaters was not to be believed. The spilled popcorn, drinks, etc. were bad enough, but it sort of goes with the territory, especially for the Disney movie crowd--however, on any given day it was normal to find used tissues, dirty diapers, chewed gum, and other assorted biohazards. Once I found a pair of women's underwear. Used feminine products. And, during the opening screening of Showgirls, wads of "used" napkins, if you know what I mean. And I think you do.
This is not even counting the time I found an adult-sized turd in the sink of the ladies room. No way was that anything but deliberate.
mse at July 18, 2009 12:57 PM
My feeling: If you wouldn't throw it on your own floor, don't throw it on somebody else's.
Your presumption is wrong.
People do trash their own houses.
Immediately after my first furlough from flying for a major airline, I spent four months throwing satellite dishes at the sides of houses in the middle of a Michigan winter.
Roughly a fifth of the houses I went into were filthy.
Hey Skipper at July 18, 2009 1:12 PM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2009/07/when-pigs-fly-1.html#comment-1658947">comment from Hey SkipperOkay, if you wouldn't throw it on your boss' floor, if invited there for dinner.
Amy Alkon
at July 18, 2009 1:15 PM
Sometimes I worry that people who litter have a fundamental disregard for the value of society, what is this world coming to, get off my lawn etc. But really I think that they just don't think, or haven't been taught, about how to behave in public.
Pseudonym at July 18, 2009 1:31 PM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2009/07/when-pigs-fly-1.html#comment-1658956">comment from PseudonymManners are, in large part, about empathy. Not the prissy stuff, about which fork to use -- that's something else (etiquette). But, the stuff of consideration, which my book is about. Who's going to sit down at that seat next and encounter the gum you've stuck in the cupholder, and how will they feel? How would you feel if that were you?
Amy Alkon
at July 18, 2009 2:25 PM
For me, the worst is what people do even in a natural setting. I enjoy trout fishing at mountain lakes. Sometimes when I leave these scenic places I have fish in my net. Sadly, I ALWAYS have a net full of soda cans, bait jars, bird's nests of fishing line, etc. One time, I was challenged to a fight after I reminded a guy that dumping fish guts back into the water was illegal, per the signs posted.
Just another example of that part of our nature that leads to the tragedy of the commons.
Jay R at July 18, 2009 2:33 PM
I was thinking of Amy when I went into Five Guys the other night. There were a few tables pulled together, and just an unbelievable amount of trash all over them. Napkins, peanut shells (and plenty of whole peanuts), a cup at every single seat, and so on. It looked like one of those sci-fi movies where people just disappear. Unbelievable. I really wish I had shown up before the group left.
Kurt at July 18, 2009 2:47 PM
Okay, if you wouldn't throw it on your boss' floor, if invited there for dinner.
Those are obviously great words to live by.
Unfortunately, some people just don't see it.
My wife's brother's house is reasonably neat, but their cars are distinguishable from dumpsters only by the turn signal.
I wouldn't be surprised if they treat airplanes the same way.
I sure don't get that, but there it is, nonetheless.
Hey Skipper at July 18, 2009 5:37 PM
Good column. I think most people fall into several categories.
1. Never taught by parents to consider others.
2. Entitlement. I paid for this plane seat restraunt table etc... therefore I can leave it like a shithole if I want.
3. Someone else can do it. I'm too important to be bothered.
By the way the inauguration of the president was a huge mess when people left.
David M. at July 19, 2009 6:06 AM
Amy you never cease to amaze me, I read Patrick's column on Salon like I read your blog: knowing that I am learning from someone who is WAY smarter than me. (also I think your commenters are sassy, if I can use that word as a straight male.)
As for slobs, they are everywhere. I haven't traveled much recently, but am about to return to the skies to do my IS consulting shit. I've made a couple of short hops around the US recently, and I will agree that people are feeling entitled when they fly. I think people should listen to this Louis CK clip and take a little time to reflect on their attitude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jETv3NURwLc
sterling at July 19, 2009 12:45 PM
We're in the middle of a garbage strike in Toronto, so the entitled brats that are used to having their litter & garbage magically disappear are a bit shocked. From what I've seen, some people are quite comfortable living in their own filth, and others are doing the city's job, and cleaning up after everyone.
Chrissy at July 24, 2009 8:18 AM
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