The Scary Report
From Harper's Index (Source: Policy Exchange, London):
Percentage of British Muslims aged 16 to 24 who advocate death for Muslims who convert to another faith: 36Percentage who say they "admire organizations like al-Qaeda that are prepared to fight the West": 13







Contrast that with this:
Percentage of American Christians aged 16 to 24 who advocate death for Christians who convert to another faith:
Percentage who say they "admire people like Paul Hill and Timothy McVeigh and are prepared tobom abortion clinics":
Not that I agree with all modern christian doctrine, I don't. But why, comparatively, Islam gets the title "religion of peace" is mind boggling to say the least.
Trust at March 20, 2010 9:06 AM
Okay, the above post didn't publish my greater than or less than symbols, so I'm forced to duplicate:
Contrast that with this:
Percentage of American Christians aged 16 to 24 who advocate death for Christians who convert to another faith: less than 1 percent
Percentage who say they "admire people like Paul Hill and Timothy McVeigh and are prepared to bomb abortion clinics": less than 1 percent
Not that I agree with all modern christian doctrine, I don't. But why, comparatively, Islam gets the title "religion of peace" is mind boggling to say the least.
Trust at March 20, 2010 9:08 AM
I'm with you on that.
Amy Alkon at March 20, 2010 9:10 AM
Yes, yes, yes...the Muslims are coming. The Muslims are coming.
So, where are the solutions to this problem if it's so serious? Which politicians are backing it?
Patrick at March 20, 2010 12:48 PM
Actually the muslims are coming. It might only be a select few that are plotting as wide a destruction area as possible, however, the general support from the 13% is useful to that cause. Of further use to the cause are those who see 1 out of 8 muslims supporting the cause as scare tactics.
What politician is "backing" that cause? If a politician's support is necessary for validation, we're all in big trouble.
TW at March 20, 2010 1:49 PM
Geert Wilders.
NicoleK at March 20, 2010 2:08 PM
@TW: "It might only be a select few that are plotting as wide a destruction area as possible, however, the general support from the 13% is useful to that cause."
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It's an interesting paradox. When violence is committed by a tiny percentage of Muslims, with support by 13 percent of the Muslims who claim to be non-violent, the majority state "they are just extremists, not all of us Muslims are like that."
Then, when retaliation is directed at the tiny percentage that engaged in the violence, suddenly, many in the majority that claimed "we are not all like that" consider the retaliation to be an attack on all Muslims.
Translation: "When they attack you don't blame us, but if you retaliate we'll blame you."
Trust at March 20, 2010 2:14 PM
I do not suggest that a politician's support is necessary for validation. However, politicians aware of the threat and willing to do something about it would be nice...you know, since private citizens can't simply go about interrogating Muslim citizens and executing them if they suspect disloyalty to the U.S.
Patrick at March 20, 2010 2:27 PM
When Paul Hill was prosecuted and executed in 2003, I can't recall any Christians saying it was an attack on Christianity. Why? Because Hill wasn't prosecuted for being a Christian... he was prosecuted and executed because he murdered people in an abortion clinic. While most Christians shared Hill's disagreement with abortion, his violence due to that was not defended...an act that results in many Christians concluding he was not really a Christian, he just said he was.
I do not believe we see enough of that in the Muslim world. We are not at war with al-Qaeda because they say they are Muslim, we are at war with them because they mass murder innocent people. I don't see many Muslims saying "they brought it on themselves through violence, they aren't really Muslims because of that. I don't care that they are Muslim... its their seeing an attack on al-Qaeda as an attack on them is that scares me.
Trust at March 20, 2010 3:57 PM
Blah, blah, blah...
I've had enough of the complaining about Islam. I've been hearing about the problem ad nauseum. I'm asking what you plan on doing about it. This is why I'm asking about which politicians are discussing taking proactive steps about this situation. What's being discussed? What's been proposed?
Enough of the hand-wringing already. Enough of the whining. The posters on this blog have insisted there's a problem (again and again and again and again...).
So, you think there's a problem. What are you doing about it?
Patrick at March 20, 2010 7:03 PM
Well I kow how to rig both an AK and an M16 for full auto fire and I have an expert marksmen rating, so I plan on killing a bunch of people after the shit hits the fan.
And if they ever start selling the AA12 full automatic shotgun I'll pick up a few of those to
How about Patrick? Are you just going to sit there as they cut off your head?
lujlp at March 20, 2010 7:13 PM
Probably, but I'm not the one who's worried about it.
Patrick at March 20, 2010 11:14 PM
Patrick - you know better. Politicians don't attack serious problems unless they give the politician power or money.
There's neither to be had in national defense.
brian at March 21, 2010 8:03 PM
"But why, comparatively, Islam gets the title "religion of peace" is mind boggling to say the least."
Because people tend to try name things for what they are NOT. Same reason the names of many political bills tend to end in the word "Reform".
lobster at March 22, 2010 9:25 AM
"So, you think there's a problem. What are you doing about it?"
What makes you think everyone here is doing nothing about it? I'm even contemplating joining the Israel Defence Forces. Just because you're doing nothing about it, doesn't mean we all are, what an assumption. Or are you complaining that we haven't solved the problem completely yet? Sorry if that's not up to scratch, it's not exactly an easy one.
lobster at March 22, 2010 9:28 AM
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