"I know we Americans like to believe that any belief is okay, but that's not true when a belief system advocates and even calls for violence and murder against non-believers"

And if 100% of the followers of said belief system were doing that, or even something close to a majority, the argument would have merit. But they don't. The more civilized a country one lives in, the number of members of a belief that takes it so literally and fervently decreases. The percentage of Muslims that are actually going out and killing non-believers is even smaller than the percentage of oil wells that have failed. An in both cases, even one is too many, but you don't shut the whole thing down because of the one - you find out how to keep it from happening again.

Part of the problem with the middle east (and even most of Europe is the people doing and causing the violence are living in grinding poverty and Dickensian squalor, a scenario that regularly makes one run for the bibles and shotguns, as a certain well-known politician said. I'll lay odds a number of sleeper agents sent over here have long since realized that their job as a cabbie is an order of magnitude better than anything they could have gotten in their home country and threw away that special cell phone that they were told would only ring when they needed to repay that one favor.

Right now the Muslim faith is getting a number of passes across the world, partly because of PC desires to look past sterotypes, and partly because of the very UN-PC mindset that if we don't, they will blow us up. It's a hilarious pair of concepts to hold in one's head at once, and something we Americans are very good at.

"I believe in XYZ" is not a problem. "I believe in XYZ and I require special amenities so I may do so" MIGHT be a problem, depending on the resources said amenities may cost. "I believe in XYZ and I will kill you if you don't" is certainly a problem, but the problem is almost certainly not with belief XYZ, but the wackbat making the threat.

In short, Islam doesn't kill people, (some) Muslims kill people.

In short, Islam doesn't kill people, (some) Muslims kill people.

Are you denying that the Quran instructs the faithful to persecute, convert or kill the infidel, the Jew and the apostate?

Give me a break - it was a PARADE.

That involves temporary inconvenience to passersby in public thoroughfares.

Duh.

You will find many impromptu minyanim (prayer quorums) on the streets of Manhattan on Salute To Israel Day.

So?

The comments at Atlas Shrugs were just vile - I can quote word-for-word anti-Semitic versions of her insinuating, nasty statements about Muslim cops - because the exact same nastiness was directed at my greatuncles, who were among NY City's first Jewish policemen.

Let's keep focused on Islam's own intolerance - instead of parading our own.

Vinnie, I agree with many of your points. However, what is missing here is some sign of sensitivity. Awareness of how their actions appear to other people.

he muslims staging this event are making a demand: they want to be allowed to practice their religion "in your face". Most terrorist attacks - including 9/11 in the same city they are protesting - have been carried out by muslims. The public perception is that muslims are a threat.

If they are moderate muslims who accept that other viewpoints may exist, they should be taking pains to distance themselves from terrorism, to play down the "convert-or-die" perception the rest of us have of Islam. Instead, they carry out this sort of in-your-face protest. They are either are either "convert-or-die" or else total idiots with no sensitivity to other viewpoints.

Either way, this sort of event deserves lots of criticism, and the government should be reminded of its responsibility to enforce the law. As one of the commentators pointed out, few other organizations would have been allowed to block the streets without a permit.

Pam Geller often seems to misread, misinterpret (burka for baby's head scarf) and incite.

And I would like to know if that was an NYPD cop who on duty or in uniform was praying....)

But that page was from two years ago, so check out this video. It's not from a parade two years ago, but from this week.

Fast forward to 1:29 to see Times Square taken over by radical adherents of an ancient religious cult. I can't believe we allow this to happen, and in the name of multi-culti tolerance.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2010/06/24/las.fotos.del.dia.06.24.cnn?hpt=T2

Notice how 5000 of them take over Times Square and place their ritual mats down in rank and file, like an army. Note how some of the women that are visible are far too covered up for a hot day, and frankly, given the ugliness of some of the people that are attracted to that cult, how some of them should have been far more covered up.

jerry, good one, ya got me! :-)

Somebody please let me in on the joke, as I can't see the video on Verizon's weak broadband signal!

Times Square was full of people doing yoga.

Even if Vinnie is correct, we still have a problem with the so-called Religion of Peace. I'll just note that other American governments dealt effectively with radical domestic movements (American Indians, and Mormons.) It wasn't fair, or pretty, but each was effective.

The Mormons just happened to be ahead of their time. Polygamy today wouldn't raise an eyebrow. In their day, it meant being driven out of the country to the deserts of Utah.

Scalping people and stealing their property had to stop - unless you're a Supreme Court Justice. OK, they let you keep your hair but my point was when incompatible cultures collide, one side loses.

Some would rather be politically correct than alive. I'm not a hater; I respect Islam as much as it respects me. If being left alone is not an option, then I choose winning.

>>I'll just note that other American governments dealt effectively with radical domestic movements (American Indians, and Mormons.) It wasn't fair, or pretty, but each was effective.

MarkD,
Seriously, I've never heard of American Indians being referred to as a "radical domestic movement" before! (Maybe it's just my ignorance.)

The comments at Atlas Shrugs were just vile - I can quote word-for-word anti-Semitic versions of her insinuating, nasty statements about Muslim cops - because the exact same nastiness was directed at my greatuncles, who were among NY City's first Jewish policemen.

Same for any Russian who dared to be a engineers, cop, lawyer, soldier, fireman etc during and after the red scare. That's the main reason I refuse to accept this kind of blind hatred.

Oh blah blah blah to the "blind hatred". Every single one of us can point to some type of event in our personal/familial/cultural history where "we" were targeted. That is not the fricken point. Remember that when you're forced to listen to the call to prayer every day, and when you're no longer allowed to speak (much less speak OUT) freely. I bet you won't feel so sympathetic and you'll probably be kicking yourself for not being educated about this enormously important, pertinent, and threatening issue.

It's ultimately our fault that the Muslims are getting away with this. The "enlightened" Western world's idiotic tolerance of their intolerant ways may one day be our demise.

The Muslims will take whatever we allow -- and then some. Bullies cannot exist without cowards.

The murder of the Kansas later-term abortion doctor George Tiller -which was done in the name of god -was only last year.

I know perfectly well the perp was an outlier but the tv reporters seemed to have no trouble finding Christians who didn't exactly condemn the act.

Back on topic. I've only just seen Terror's Advocate an extraordinary 2007 documentary - showing moral relativism at its most chillingly calculating.

It's about a French lawyer who has spent his career defending terrorists.

From the imdb user comments: "Terror's Advocate is a must-see for anyone interested in anti-colonialist movements or the politics and terror attacks of Europe in the 1970s and 80s. In many ways, attorney Jacques Verges' tale plays like a who's who of late-20th century international intrigue. Viet Nam, Algeria, Zaire, Cambodia, China, Pol Pot, Yasser Arafat and Carlos the Jackal are but a few of the hot spots and honchos to play a part in the duplicitous attorney's life".

By the way, it is not a religion, but a totalitarian system masquerading as a religion

What's the distinction? (Or, I suppose, what's the definition of religion such that Islam is only a masquerade of one, rather than a real one?)

Can't it be both a religion and a totalitarian system?

Its a pity so many muslims are unaware of how horrible the bronze age was the first time humanity went thru it

An in both cases, even one is too many, but you don't shut the whole thing down because of the one

The objective is not to shut the whole thing down, just to stop letting them immigrate to our shores. Let them keep killing each other in their own countries.

Can't it be both a religion and a totalitarian system?

Not in a country that disallows an established religion. Islam explicitly states that secular law is subordinate. The US Constitution forbids the establishment of a state religion. The two aren't compatible and something has to give.

Closer to my home, check this out

Indonesia Justice Minister condones attacks on Israel

To quote him "I think the Indonesians who are angry at Israel shouldn't commit bomb attacks here, commit bomb attacks in Israel instead...we even give them money if they need it. We give them weapons, we give them money, we even take care of their families who stay behind. That's much better than committing attacks in Indonesia and killing innocent people"

Thanks for the Bali bombings you fuckwit. We warned you for years about extremism in your country and you did nothing. Now you're trying to redirect it. Nice try but too late.

The murder of the Kansas later-term abortion doctor George Tiller -which was done in the name of god -was only last year.

Find me a justice minister of a sovereign state who funded the killer and I'll listen. Until then Jody, excuse me for saying you're a naive idiot. There's no other way of putting it.

Having come from a country where the people were crushed under the boot of Communism, and hearing the horror stories my parents tell me of their life there, I am really scared when people talk of regulating thoughts and beliefs.

As a libertarian, the last thing I want is for my government to get inside my head. They are already way too deep inside my pockets, my home and my daily life.

That being said, how about we actually stand up for ourselves as individuals and as a nation and stop the actions that encroach on our safety, our rights and our way of life. I will tolerate your beliefs only insofar as they stay inside your head. The minute you tell me what I can or can't do, you have taken action against me. And now we have a problem.

>>Find me a justice minister of a sovereign state who funded the killer and I'll listen. Until then Jody, excuse me for saying you're a naive idiot. There's no other way of putting it.

Ltw,
Steady on!

Amy, I found that video today via FARK and watched it for the truck landslide moment and then found the yoga treatment. It's not that I find you unreasonable per se', as I was trying to imply, the video that Pam had up is unreasonable, overblown, and out of context.

That video shows a parade, the narrator mistakes a baby's headscarf for a burka, and the description of the people on the ground to pray is described as army like, like a rank and file, when it was just people laying down, not army like at all.

I do think there are real problems that I think you often address, but as Ben-David says above "Let's keep focused on Islam's own intolerance - instead of parading our own."

I do think the question of the NYPD officer who seemed to be praying in uniform, and perhaps on duty, is reasonable. That's not the behavior I would expect to see at a parade on Christmas, or on Purim.

Ltw,
Steady on!

Sorry Jody - but the "Christians have fundamentalists too" argument really gets to me. It's not the same, and hasn't been since the 18th century. They don't have any real political power anymore. Whereas Islam does. I'm an atheist so I could care less, but one is willing to coexist with me and the other isn't, so I know whose side I'm on.

As it is, it is horrible that even those supposedly moderate islamic people used their economic clout to dumb down non-believers, to prevent non-believers from having a personal choice, isolate non-believers (who do not wish to support their business that is so heavily influenecd by their islamic totalitarian ideology that don't allowed non-believers a free choice and who don't like their islamic agenda), who don't want to have anything to do with their islamic totalitarian agenda, etc. Another problem is that too many non-believers business people pander too much to the islamic people whims and fancies without realising the danger or the negaive consequences.

I can't deal with "well the Quran says to kill". So does the bible. Leaves us back with the "it's not Islam that kills people, it's (some) Muslims" logic. Which is true. It really wasn't that long ago that beating your wife was a natural thing to do and hanging "niggers" in the street was just fine for the KKK (who, by the way, used the Christian bible to justify their acts). Sure - western society is "enlightened" but it was a LOOOOONG, SLOOOOOOW process that took hundreds of years and didn't really finish up that long ago (it's not completely done yet either). So let's not go looking down our noses too much...especially seeing as the "enlightened American public" still harbors thousands of back-woods white supremacists...Christians at than GASP...who just can't wait for the return of a Hitler type to finish up the old "final solution".

To highlight how it's not about what is in the bible/quaran/torah...it's about what the person chooses to take from it, here are some questions that need to be answered...questions perhaps a Jewish person could answer for us all:

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
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2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
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3. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
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4. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
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5. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
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I also agree with Jess. It had got nothing to do with blind hatred(for their islamic people or their islamic ideology).
It is even worst when we nonbelievers are being forced to listen to their extremely noisy prayer that they make it inconsiderately through their loud speaker/minaret. My hatred for their blatant inconsideration for us nonbelievers get even worst, when they tried to impose their nasty culture on me or caused me to feel fearful for no reason. I am just glad that I feel more brave to speak out against their kind of islamic menace. But still I am not brave enough to speak under my full name. I just don't like they bringing their islamic problem or their obsession with their islamic ideology unto me and I don't like to have any problem with them.

It is also disgusting that those too many islamic women while pretending to be victims, they supported their islamic men and collaborated with their islamic men to bully, suppress us nonbelievers (who do not wish to kow tow to them or be friends with them) and to prevent us nonbelievers from having any kind of decent freedom in this world. That is why Ayaan Hirsi Ali was completely wrong when she tried to paint islamic women as victims when the real victims are us nonbelievers who happenned to be economically or politically disadvantaged at the moment.

Islamic women should stop bullying disadvantaged non-believers, help restore our non-believers freedom and stop discriminating disadvantaged non-believers. Non-believers in asia and middle east should be sincere about their non-believers status and should not mix with islamic ideology. The problems with islamic women(and men) are manyfold, ie, they tend to isolate disadvantaged nonbelievers, they are racist, play the victim card or glorified in their socalled religious superiority complex, pretending to be friends with nonbelievers when it suits them and shout down anyone who tried to criticise their imposing totalitarian ideology, etc.

I will always distrust islamic people and regard islamic people as my enemy (but I don't go around waging war against them) due to the fact that they discriminated against me since I was young in their predominantly asian malay islamic ruled country. It is bad that those islamic people discriminated disadvantaged minority nonbeliever like myself to enrich their own islamic tribes. If this is not islamic greed, then what is it?

Did you read my comment at 3:45PM Karen? Might have saved you a lot of typing.

Sorry, but Christians killing apostates is NOT a relic of the distant past:
http://www.alternet.org/news/147177/arch-conservative_u.s._christians_help_uganda_'kill-the-gays'_bill_stay_alive?page=entire

Amy, I'm a reform Buddhist, FWIW. We can eat bacon, but hope the pig gets reincarnated as a higher life form.

There are Christians who feel it's ok to kill gays and abortion doctors. That's a fact, not opinion. So you're just arguing about what percentage of each misguided religious order is clinically insane. I haven't seen a credible report about the numbers, but my feeling is that it is splitting hairs, really. The practical difference between fundamentalist Christians, Muslims, Mormons, Christian Scientists, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Scientologists is pretty small.

And anyway, what is your solution Amy? Kill all the Muslims? That seems awfully similar to the fundamentalist Muslim solution. And, you know, the Nazis.

You really weaken your position when you deny the validity of non-fundamentalist Islam. I really don't think Kareem Abdul Jabar and Muhammed Ali want to kill me.

I don't have any easy answers, but I feel compelled to point out that you frame the question unfairly.

F.

>I get that you're not informed about Islam.

Thank you for not resorting to condescension right off the bat.

>There's no such thing as "non-fundamentalist" Islam -- there are only Muslims who are not good Muslims according to the Quran and Muslims who are.

I will grant you the benefit of the doubt that you did not grant me, that you are a reasonably intelligent person who wouldn't warp the debate to fit her point of view. And simply ask: do you not see that the same could be said of fundamentalist Christians? If you take the Old or New Testament literally, and there are small pockets of nutjobs who do, then there is very little ground to be granted to fornicators, masturbators, worshipers of false idols, and the covetous.

>Ayaan Hirsi Ali suggests moderate Christians are the answer -- to go in to talk to people who believe in fairy tales about god and heaven and hell, and replace their ugly, deathcult fairy tales with "turn the other cheek" and such.

Is this your belief as well, or are you just redirecting the argument? You don't seem like a "turn the other cheek" kinda gal to me. Are some fairy tales better than others? Are you subscribing to the Coulter doctrine of killing their leaders and converting them to Christianity?

I believe the best ideas win out over time, and fundamentalist Christianity and Islam will deservedly die out over the next thousand years or so. But I also believe that suppressing ideas that you don't agree with is a horrendous act. Countering them with better ideas is the way to go. It's slower, but taking the high road takes more time.

Those islamic people may be most probably unable to kill us nonbelievers, but when they are trying to kill our individuality, kill our nonbelievers personal enjoyment in life, trying to dictate to us nonbelievers what to wear and what to eat, via misusing their islamic totalitarian imposition and blatant misused of their massive economic clout or restrict our nonbelievers choice in career (via discrimination), imposed their restrictive lifestyle, etc, it is still another form of killing and another form of communism.

>You're defending Islam why?

Because I believe in promoting truth over political agenda, and I have eaten a delightful daal prepared by a Muslim woman who had no intentions of murdering me, despite my utter indifference to Allah and fondness for gin. Her interpretation of Islam does not match yours. Her interpretation is much more prevalent among Muslims than what you like to portray on your blog.

Because I believe you are spreading hate for no good reason. Have more Americans been killed by Muslims in this country than by the "war on drugs" in the last decade? For that matter, in the last 5 years, have more Americans been killed on American soil in the War on Terror, or Jenny McCarthy's War on Vaccinations?

Obviously Western society has no more room to accommodate fundamentalist Islam any more than it does fundamentalist Christianity or Judaism. But assuming you are a reasonably humane person, you cannot simply outlaw their belief systems, or advocate genocide.

The problem with islamic people usually starts when they gain the upper hand or when they were at the height of socalled economic or political "superiority"(helped by ignorant, unwary more economically advanced outsiders or more advanced foreign influence, etc). That is when they tried to start their nasty bullying or intimidation and make nonbelievers feel unwelcome. Their big show of hospitality(all the cooking and offering of food is just a big empty show with no substance) is done when they try to gain some favour or when they are/were at a politically or economically disadvantaged. I personally find islamic people hostile and unhelpful most of the time. They may have no intention to murder us nonbelievers but still I don't have anything in common with them and I don't like their islamic culture/religion.

Amy - I find a lot of bullshit you post to be complete and total idiocy as well. I am, however much more polite about it. Personally - I think you're a raving bigot that is completely self absorbed. There are posts that really and honestly make my eyes roll.

Take care hun, you've lost a fan and a customer.

Later biatch.

A guy e-mails from Paris:

One block is nothing compared to what goes on here....Many streets blocked no buses etc..My friend from Sweden lives in NY but goes back to Sweden alot says you should see Sweden they want to take over Europe just give them time..I bet she is right.

Franko/Karen ... I will be brutally honest, you are both way wrong on this one (I want to call you morons, but hey, lets be civil). Islam is an abomination on the human condition. If you cannot see that, than there is really no point arguing with you except to make this point ... If you were in Germany in the 30's and somebody told you the nazis were evil, you would have somehow reasoned that the person pointing this out was either a bigot, or had a political agenda. When violence finally comes because of islam, you will be an enemy to both sides, good luck to you then.

> Have more Americans been killed by Muslims
> in this country than by the "war on drugs"
> in the last decade?

Does it matter?

Sheesh, that's the most dessicated, deeply-conditional metric I've ever seen.

Why are liberal children so prone to doing this... Trying to put all the different kinds of suffering in the world into one of those cylindrical raffle drums, only to pull one out and be pompous about it?

Do these stooges truly believe that morality works that way?... That context isn't worth the trouble?

(He deserve a beating for the quotation marks alone.)

hey...haven't been on here in a while, but felt compelled to chime in on one of my favorite topics.

I'm in Afghanistan now for round two and I can tell you that up close and personal--Islam is a backwards, oppressive and f*cked up religion. Not all Muslims are bad people; in fact there are a few that I count as friends, who really want to try and improve their lives and live in peace. (All want to immigrate to the US/Canada) Note, though, that these are not the Muslims that are living according to the Koran, but the ones who are wide-eyed in admiration at us Westerners, the way we act, joke around, the Hooters and VS magazines, etc. The music and movies of pop culture, etc. (The under 25 crowd; one of whom when asked his thoughts on how to fix this place said "Kill everyone over the age of 40". Bit extreme, perhaps, but he was dead serious)

Hard core, fervent Muslims, are the a$$holes blowing themselves up and killing not only us "infidels" but also their own people. The ones who not only do it, but who are coordinating, planning, supporting and not truly speaking out against such acts. It is utterly dispicable, disgusting, revolting. Islam is not a religion of peace or anything akin to it. It is a system in which a systematic reach for power is used to keep literally millions of people under its grasp. "Totalitarianism masquerading as religion" is a most appropriate description.

I cannot fathom, for the LIFE of me, why, after all of the terrorist acts even beginning with the Beirut bombing in '83--which, incidentally, is when the war on terrorism really started--and all the events leading to 9/11 and beyond, that there is still this pervasive, bleeding-heart attitude towards Islam. Fort Hood ring a bell? What the hell are we waiting for? When will our country at least (I agree that Europe's somewhat of a lost cause) take its head out of the flippin' sand and realize that the religion of Islam is not one that can peacefully coexist with our principles and that the one thing that needs to take precedence over our precious religious freedoms are the protection of our citizens. Without life, you don't stand a chance at liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I believe there's a very good reason for the order of that wording.

Please also, someone ask me about the complete and utter hypocrisy of the Islam religion being discriminatory against homosexuals--and I will be happy to tell you about it. This is the most gay culture I have ever experienced.

Franko/Karen in the old testement and the torah there is no "literal" words of god. At best you have second hand heresey of what someone wrote down as what he was told Moses was told by god.

Everything else is the writting of 'prophets'

In the "new testement" written as most archeologists and some bible 'scholars' belive more than 5 decade AFTER jesus death. Again all we have are the writtings of what a scribe was told Jesus said.

And what were the literal words of jesus? Basically 'be nice to everyone no matter what' and 'thinking about sex is a sin'

The actions of christians in the past, present and future that you are equating to the actions of muslims were done in direct violation of the tenants of their faith.

The deplorable actions of muslims are done in accordance with the tennants of their faith.

That is the profound difference you seem to be willfully ignoring.

Look at the history of every nation and culture that was consumed by islam - within a few generations all progress in every avenue of human endovor grinds to the slowest of all paces.

I gotta say it's so nice to find a place where people agree on the truth of this matter. I'm tired of people and their daily ignorance, cuz this is serious! And heart-breaking.

Beth, you are spot on. My nephew served as an army political laison on his last tour of Afghanistan and he basically said two things ... One, it will take at least a generation to change the culture, and two, to afghans, boys are for sex, girls are strictly for procreation. Men sell the rights their boys as early as the age of 7.

The fact that all those many islamic countries (enriched by foreign nonbelievers expertise and influenced and the many unwary nonbelievers business people who collaborated with islamic people to further their revolting islamic totalitarian agenda) ganged up and tried to violently suppress our nonbelievers freedom is bad enough to make me want to weep.

Amy, you're most welcome. The naivete of some people simply blows my mind....

Don't get me wrong, the people of this country are not inherently bad or evil; it's not the people, it's the religion, hence the culture that is all f*cked up. It breaks my heart to see all the beautiful, dirty little urchins running around who are growing up in a place that unless something drastic changes, don't have a chance. Especially the little girls. I think of myself and my own daughter and thank God that we were born into a culture in which women are not treated as property--and expendable property at that. Some of the "feminists" who claim mistreatment should spend some time over here.

Islam is the official, state protected ideology from Morocco to Indonesia. Only Turkey and Syria, and maybe Lebanon and Iraq are sort of secular states, along with nominally secular Israel and the former soviet republics. There is a reason there are no churches, synagogues, temples in Saudi A., and are restricted in many other places.
Also, you can find the quote in an interview published April 23, 2009 in the Saudi Daily 'Okaz, reformist thinker Ibrahim Al-Buleihi expressed his admiration for Western civilization.:

"Ever Since the End of the Period of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs, Man's Individuality Was Eradicated in Arab History, And His Value Has Been Linked to His Political, Religious, Regional, or Tribal Affiliation"

http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/3264.htm

Let's hope there are more like him.

Did you know.......
Historically, Muslim Americans tended to support the Republican Party. In the 2000 Presidential election, nearly eighty percent of Muslim Americans supported Republican candidate George W. Bush
On July 31, 2000, Talat Othman opened the Republican National Convention with a Muslim benediction, marking the first time a Muslim had addressed a major US political gathering.
Once very small, the Muslim population of the US increased greatly in the twentieth century, with much of the growth driven by rising immigration and conversion. In 2005, more people from Islamic countries became legal permanent United States residents — nearly 96,000 — than in any year in the previous two decades.
It is estimated that over 50% of the slaves imported to North America came from areas where Islam was followed by at least a minority population. Thus, no less than 200,000 came from regions influenced by Islam. Substantial numbers originated from Senegambia, a region with an established community of Muslim inhabitants extending to the 11th century.
The Muslim population is what it is because of our past
as well...so we need to extend the blame beyond the current administration...there is plenty of blame to go around !!!!
www.bydio.com/2010/06/26/muslim-praye.....This video is an example of what is to come if Islam takes over our country....altho' there is mis-trust between the Muslims and the Americans...It goes further than that....It is more between the Christians and Islam !!...It's an on going Holy War !!...and the ones who are not Christian nor of the Islam religion are caught in the middle !!!
Here is another disturbing video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xges7mFi6iY While we are so focused on the Muslims taking over....We are ignoring the fact that the Far Right Christians are also planning a take over !!

I am a Native American...and quite frankly I have had enough of "Christian values" or any other religious values.... I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute -- where no Catholic prelate would tell the President (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote -...JFK....This was a great President...and look what happened to him...!!!!!....I'm here to evince the fact, that If Islam doesn't take over...the radical,patriarchal, homophobic, xenophobic culture we are turning into ....Will !!!---The real kicker is that no matter what we have become ..It is still the greatest country in the world...Lets keep the "U"SA free....
This has always been my country...It has been the country of my ancestors and I resent the ones who think they should claim my country as their "God given right" !!!...Be it Islam,Christian or any other religion !!... I'm not opposed to sharing My country with you 'All"...Just keep your religion to yourselves !!..... Doris Ravenfeather