Baa-Baa, Fashion Sheep...
Selling ugly to gullible people never goes out of style. William Van Meter writes for The New York Times that "Don't Fuck Me!" dresses (my term) are back in:
ON a recent August night, young women in stilettos teetered precariously through the cobblestone streets of the meatpacking district in Manhattan. Appropriately for the neighborhood, they were squeezed into minidresses that were as snug as sausage casings. But a few blocks south, far away from the blare of Hummer limousine horns, at the fashionable opening of the Algus Greenspon Gallery on Morton Street, a more demure look prevailed.Like a modest Robert Palmer-girl army, the women mingled in floor-length print dresses and brown lace-up boots with their hair in messy secretary buns. The genesis of the look could have been those unforgettable images of fundamentalist Mormon women that dominated the news a couple of years back. But if you squinted, what you saw was a sea of Elaines. Listen and you could almost hear the funky slap bass that played as segue music on "Seinfeld." Could it be that the stars have somehow aligned to make Elaine Benes the summer's downtown fashion muse?
Over the years, Elaine has stood out as a beacon of a faded era, in long floral skirts, blazers with padded shoulders and granny shoes with socks. Just about every inch of her skin was covered as if she were photosensitive. Unlike other 1990s series with a more easily imitable style (see "Melrose Place"), "Seinfeld" was decidedly anti-fashion. But now, if you happen upon an old episode, Elaine just looks cool -- and of-the-moment.
Not to those of us with personal style.







It's written as though there's no other option besides granny dresses or whore dresses. The writer needs to get out more.
NicoleK at August 20, 2010 5:34 AM
I really do not understand women who have so little personality or imagination that they must follow fashion trends with no personal accents - talk about fashion victims.
Nothing looks more ridiculous than a woman in 4-6 inch heels who's ankles are wobbling. What about the idiots who wear those hideous fat slipper like boots with a sundress. Hello? it's 95 degrees out moron!
It is always sad to see big-hipped chicks in skinny jeans with rolls of fat hanging over the top. Geeze lady, in a shapely dress you might pass for attractive.
I really don't understand the women who clearly spend a fortune on their hair, nails and wardrobe yet cannot be bothered to hit the gym and lose a few dozen pounds or so. Why not spend the money on a personal trainer?
Whew, I have wanted to say that in a public forum for a while. Thank you Amy for providing me with that forum.
Ingrid at August 20, 2010 7:24 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2010/08/baabaa-fashion.html#comment-1744844">comment from IngridIt's also not just women who commit fashion errors. There was this tall cute guy sitting near me at Starbucks on Wednesday -- and then I noticed that he was wearing bedroom slippers. Funny if you're 20 and wearing them to class on Pajama Day. An attraction killer when you're in your late 30s/early 40s, like this guy seemed to be.
PS And they were the really uncool terry kind -- like these: Comfort Fit Men's 741 Slippers -- only much uncooler; brown, with tiny brown houndstooth top.
Amy Alkon
at August 20, 2010 7:40 AM
A room full of Elaines? Well it was a gallery, so hopefully they weren't trying to do her dance moves!
I've never been fashionable, but every few years I am fashionable by accident for a few minutes.
One thing I do have is good posture. My Grandma was there to get us off to school after Mom had to go to work. I walked to school, and if I was slouching or scuffing my feet I'd hear her banging on the picture window and I'd straighten up.
So now I cringe at seeing pretty girls with their guts hanging out, dragging themselves down the street. And the guys? Fuggedaboutit.
Pricklypear at August 20, 2010 8:16 AM
I think I have low standards. My requirements (for myself, unless I am at the dog park):
- Smooth, even skin with at least SPF 30 (a little foundation and concealer plus blush)
- Showered, deo, perfume (always. I am a perfumaholic and this is one of the ways I let my personality show. I don't drown myself b/c I realize there are a LOT of perfume party poopers)
- No holes in my clothes
- Clothes are clean
- No belly, butt crack or undergarments showing
- Clothes fit my body: not too tight, not too lose.
It astounds me how many people don't even go that far. But as far as the actual STYLE I usually wear simple stuff and layer on accessories and if I am going out I will spend a while on my make up and hair...but wear jeans, boots, and an understated top. I have never liked my body so I never got into clothes.
Gretchen at August 20, 2010 8:25 AM
What bothered me the most about Elaine style was always those hideous shoes... and that she'd pair them with socks. Gross.
Also, I HATE it when people wear white tennis shoes to go about their daily business. Sometimes I even see them paired with suits. You're going to the office, not gym class! If I can lug around a 23-pound baby and a diaper bag in heels, you can at least put some goddamn grown-up shoes on.
ahw at August 20, 2010 10:29 AM
I agree with you about the shoes, ahw. I absolutely hate them, but I had to get some Newbalance shoes when I was having problems with my feet. I'm part of a dying breed, as I walk almost everywhere.
I have big feet to begin with, and these new style shoes, with their soles actually spreading outward, give me these big, white Frankenfeet. I can't wait to take them off and put on my work shoes.
I admit they have helped my feet. I hate them anyway.
Pricklypear at August 20, 2010 1:49 PM
My new favorite site is ... http://www.manrepeller.com/
man·re·pell·er1 [mahn-ree-peller]
–noun
outfitting oneself in a sartorially offensive way that will result in repelling members of the opposite sex. Such garments include but are not limited to harem pants, boyfriend jeans, overalls (see: human repelling), shoulder pads, full length jumpsuits, jewelry that resembles violent weaponry and clogs.
MeganNJ at August 20, 2010 2:20 PM
sorry, meganNJ... a good looking woman can't really repell a man using fashion. He doesn't much care if she wears socks, or how high they are or whatever, as long as he gets to remove them. Harem Pants remind me of Jeanie, you can remove overalls in a heartbeat, and you file shoulder-pads in the same file as most of women's fashion that you dare not comment on or get in trouble.
I mean, who knew that one of my geekiest female friends would go from plain but hyper intelligent, to astonishingly seductive in one move to a "Slave Leia" cosplay?
Woman repeller, OK, I could see that, since women seem to be quite hard on their own kind in terms of fashion.
But guys? You put your hand on my chest and look up at me when you are talking? What you are wearing is irrelevant.
SwissArmyD at August 20, 2010 2:47 PM
The thing about tennis shoes vs. heels is that tennis shoes don't do the horrible things to your feet that heels can do. So if I chose to wear shoes that are less likely to damage my feet, I think that's my right. Although I wouldn't wear tennis shoes with formal attire.
KrisL at August 20, 2010 6:06 PM
Fashion is the clothing industry's mechanism for creating artificially high turnover in an industry that would naturally have much lower turnover. It doesn't matter what the fashion is; by definition it only has to be different enough that you can't use much of what you bought last "season". No, you don't need new clothes every "season"; clothes can last years. Seasons are for crops, not clothes. A fool and her money, and all that. Keep those cash registers ringing.
"It's also not just women who commit fashion errors."
I must say I often just don't care how I look when I go out, so some might mistake my apathy for errors. I'm not necessarily looking to please anyone's eye if I'm just popping out for coffee. Then again, I am a computer programmer, raised by an engineer.
Lobster at August 20, 2010 6:57 PM
"If I can lug around a 23-pound baby and a diaper bag in heels, you can at least put some goddamn grown-up shoes on."
Why do people seem to feel entitled to be able to attempt to control what random strangers wear? It's quite bizarre when you really think about it. Live and let live. It doesn't affect you. Don't judge others until you've, excuse the pun, walked in their (ugly) shoes. It's almost like you are conveying a sense of moral superiority for dressing nice. Sure, I like when people dress nice, and really dislike purely nihilistic 'deliberate ugliness', but I don't go around demanding that others bend to my whims as to what I'd prefer them to wear.
Lobster at August 20, 2010 7:06 PM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2010/08/baabaa-fashion.html#comment-1745000">comment from LobsterWhy do people seem to feel entitled to be able to attempt to control what random strangers wear? It's quite bizarre when you really think about it. Live and let live. It doesn't affect you. Don't judge others until you've, excuse the pun, walked in their (ugly) shoes.
Why not? What's wrong with judging people? I quoted Cathy Seipp the other day: "I have values, so I make judgments."
If you are a man, about 40, wearing bedroom slippers as shoes, I judge you to be unfuckable.
Amy Alkon
at August 20, 2010 10:38 PM
To quote an old Sam & Max cartoon: "Let's go to the mall and make fun of the people were glad we're not." I hate the mall, but I quite enjoy the idea.
Actually, I usually am thinking something like "God, I could be so much worse!"
Or,like another cartoon character said: "I like having low self-esteem. It makes me feel special."
Pricklypear at August 20, 2010 11:18 PM
You know, you don't have to choose between tennis shoes and heels!
I busted up my knee in a tragic moped accident a few years ago, and am not supposed to wear heels. I cheat, and wear them sometimes to formal events, but otherwise I wear flats. Now, since I tend to wear skirts, sneakers look stupid. So in the summer I find nice sandals with a bit of support, and in moderate weather I wear ballet flats or Mary Janes, not too clunky (Mary Janes can go either way, sometimes they are much too heavy) or nice boots.
You can be comfortable and cute, maybe not super sexy hoochie mama or glamor girl, but at least cute, neat and pretty.
NicoleK at August 21, 2010 2:33 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2010/08/baabaa-fashion.html#comment-1745058">comment from NicoleKCole Haan G Series makes really comfortable shoes. They're expensive at retail, but I bought them seriously on sale at Designer Shoe Warehouse a few years back.
Amy Alkon
at August 21, 2010 7:05 AM
"Why not? What's wrong with judging people? I quoted Cathy Seipp the other day: "I have values, so I make judgments."
If you are a man, about 40, wearing bedroom slippers as shoes, I judge you to be unfuckable."
Nothing wrong with judging people, but there's a difference between judging people, and acting as though you have some kind of right to control them, or like dressing better is a sign of moral superiority. The comment "If I can lug around a 23-pound baby and a diaper bag in heels, you can at least put some goddamn grown-up shoes on" crosses that line, I think.
"To quote an old Sam & Max cartoon: "Let's go to the mall and make fun of the people were glad we're not.""
That's exactly what it is, and quite frankly, it's my right to judge people who do this as, well, lame. It's highly primitive ape-behaviour, small-minded and sad. Seriously people, self-analyse it sometime.
Lobster at August 21, 2010 9:38 AM
In any case, most people I know dress demurely, but not frumpily. Casual preppy seems to be what my social circle wears. Modest, but neat and buttoned.
NicoleK at August 21, 2010 10:43 AM
In analyzing a recent post, I find that the author seems to have a finely-tuned sense of their own moral superiority while denigrating others for perhaps having what the author feels is a wrongful sense of moral superiority.
Perhaps this stems from a highly evolved and thoughtful worldview. Or perhaps this stems from the author being wound so tightly that they squeak going into a turn.
In any event, I have not been able to spot the part where anyone is attempting to control or demand anything of the sartorially challenged.
Pricklypear at August 21, 2010 2:37 PM
Frankly, these girls are gettin' plenty of ass - from other hipster guys. It's not your preference (evening gowns as day-wear aren't mine, though they look lovely) but the hipster look is frumpy. All my boyfriend's roommates dress like they shop with my grandma, and they've always got guys. My sister has hipster tendencies (I love her to death anyway) and she just cut off her long, pretty hair for a pixie cut. Her exact words are "Everyone says men hate women with short hair, but now old guys, frat guys, and douche bags don't hit on me, and all the cute hipster boys I actually want to date wave at me from their bikes!"
Sam at August 21, 2010 5:48 PM
@NicoleK: I see what you mean. Slut style can be unbecoming, but the long-dress-and-bun style just seems creepy to me. The other day, I talked with a reporterette who made long pants, a tank top, and a pony tail look goooooood.
mpetrie98 at August 21, 2010 8:15 PM
Swiss Army - Use more humor
Megan at August 23, 2010 7:45 AM
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