Another example of label-hopping... whatever they change it to will become offensive sounding soon enough. The only way to make [Name for person who committed a crime] NOT offensive is if we as a society suddenly decide committing crimes is good. Which hopefully won't happen.

Yeah, we shouldn't be so hard on Hitler: he loved dogs.

Sarcasm, of course.

Moron.

Are you sure you believe in evolution Miss Alkon? Because that idiot is sure as shit a damn fine argument against the idea of survival of the fittest.

'insert extensive eye rolling'

What I'd really love to do, is take all these overly sensitive delicate fucks, and drop them into the middle of an uninhabited area with nothing but a few days worth of food and water, and a survival manual, then let them see what life is like when they actually have to do things for themselves to stay alive.

Y'know, what its like when they can't make a living off of just running their dumbass mouths. I can't help but think the first week or two a good number of them would die off, unable to comprehend why their love of mother earth wasn't causing crops to spring up and deer to just wander into reach and conveniently die so they don't have to actually hunt for meat themselves.

Yessir, I'd just loooove to pop their comfortable bubbles of ignorance, idiocy, and idealism.

Don't be bitter, Robert.

"You can eat ten million bananas and no one calls you a banana eater, but if you suck one dick, you're labeled for life." -- a friend of mine from the military.

Must a person be labeled by what they did but are not in the habit of doing any longer?

But then again, I believe that you're innocent until proven guilty, but when you're proven guilty, you should remain guilty until proven innocent.

If a person who committed a crime pays the price and can keep his nose clean for the prescribed period of time, I would say that "offender" is no longer appropriate, as he has satisfied the need for evidence that he is now a "former offender." Unless we're talking about sex offenders, who are known to be incorrigible.

Actually, if you ate 10 million bananas...

Lets say the average person lives to be 80. 80x365=29200. That's how many days the average person lives.

10,000,000/29200 = 342.5 approx.

I think if you were eating 342 bananas a day you would probably get labeled as a banana eater.

Hey, Nicole! There are 20 leap years in an eighty year span! Your calculations are off! Shame on you!

And again, George Carlin is ahead of the game: "What next? Do we call rape victims 'unwilling sperm recipients'?"

I looked at the stupid article, but I might have missed the part where she suggests an alternative.

"Professor Mike Nellis, of the University of Strathclyde, said "offender" became popular in the 1960s as an alternative to criminal, delinquent and lawbreaker."

Maybe there should be a contest to come up with the next terminology. I pick Naughty Ne'er-do-well's.

"Feckless Hooligans" also comes to mind.

And once again, the politically correct fluffy bunny contingent is all butthurt about nothing.

You rape someone? You're a rapist.

You kill someone? You're a murderer.

Let's just start calling a spade a spade already. I could care less if some criminal gets his panties in a bunch because we call him what he is. Boo freaking hoo.

I half-way agree--"offender" IS a stupid word. "Rapist", "murderer", "thief", "burglar", "wife-beater", "child molester"--those all work fine. "Serial" or "career" [noun from the list] works for the ones who do it more than once. "Criminals" for the group in aggregate.

Don't want to be known as George Doe, rapist-murderer? Don't rape and kill. Easy-peasy.

"Someone who commits an offence is not an offender, they are someone who has done something"

Yep. Someone did something just the other day. I read about it. I wonder if someone will do something today?

I wish someone, ANYone, could call me a "nitwit-choker".

Just sayin'.

o.O

Are you sure you believe in evolution Miss Alkon? Because that idiot is sure as shit a damn fine argument against the idea of survival of the fittest

Unfortunately, evolution does not always favor the smartest, or strongest, or fastest. Sometimes sheer overwhelming numbers mean idiocy will survive and become part of the gene pool.

Which may help explain why professional wrestling fans outnumber opera fans. And why A&E is no longer about Arts & Entertainment, but about tattoos, bikers, and trailer park residents with too much stuff.

"Someone who commits an offence is not an offender, they are someone who has done something"

Yes ... they've done something offensive, the aforementioned "offence." Just as someone who has done something heroic is called a hero.

Flynne, you ol' nitwit-choker, you!

HAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! OMG, thankyou Pricklypear!! HAHAHAHAHAAAA!

Except I haven't choked any nitwits. Not a single dang one of 'em. Not even figuratively. And I know so many!

My life sucks.

o.O

In an alternate universe:

She said: "Someone who treats people medically is not a doctor, they are someone who has done something. The action does not define the whole person. They may also do other things and they will certainly fit into other categories that can offer a different definition like parent or friend.

By insisting that the delivery of medical tratment overcomes all other parts of the person, we are condemning them to a stereotyped category for whom there is no hope of true understanding."

So calling someone who commits an offence an offender is offensive?

Doesn't this contradict the Reflexive Axiom ("self-evident truth")?

"X" equals "X".

I am finding it impossible to take anything seriously today.

This isn't new.

Blame it all on the play "The Eumenides," where it's decided that, IIRC, women aren't really people, so a woman's killing her husband is far worse than her son's killing HER. Therefore, the latter case has to be dismissed as justifiable homicide, and the punishing Furies become the "Benevolent Ones."

That's right, lenona. We aren't people, we have no souls, and a lot of us are entering menopause, so everybody just watch the hell out!

That's right, lenona. We aren't really people, we have no souls, and a lot of us are entering menopause, so everybody just watch the hell out.

The above might be entered twice. My computer's acting up. But that's all right, it can't be over-emphasized, and it needed to be said.

In many places in statute, the word "offender" is used in place of "he," which word gives people a terrible case of the vapors. Of course, if avoiding causing emotional injury to the gender-pronoun-sensitive were the only concern,"rapist," "murderer," "thief," "burglar," "wife-beater," and "child molester" are also gender-neutral.

These people will not rest until we are all forced into Orwellian Newspeak. Without eternal vigilance it could happen here!

Debasing the language is one of the oldest tricks in the leftist handbook. A population that can't communicate with each other is a population that's easier to control.

"And again, George Carlin is ahead of the game: "What next? Do we call rape victims 'unwilling sperm recipients'?""

I believe that would be "recipient of undocumented sperm".

You want some messed up communication style, try reading LOLspeak comments.

It makes me feel that old tri-state-killing-spree urge coming on.

This reminds me of the same mindset that calling them "illegal aliens" is wrong, and that we should be using terms like "Undocumented" or "migrant workers."

Someone in a thread at work just today actually concluded such an email with "The shorthand of 'illegals' is deeply offensive and dehumanizing."

Yeah.. whatever. They're here illegally, therefore, they're illegal aliens.

> It makes me feel that old tri-state-
> killing-spree urge coming on.

Can I be your Malvo?

Oh, Crid, you just wanna talk to William Shatner.

I have an alternative description for the abovementioned rapist:

Dead guy.

Or, in yet another alternative, that appellation could be applied during an attempt at rape - foiled, Ideally with deadly force, by the intended victim.

In which case, we can discuss what inoffensive term to use for his rotting corpse over a few beers.

So Angus and McTavish are sitting around in the pub. Angus takes a long pull at his drink, looks out the door and says "Angus, you see that bridge out there."

"Aye Angus, I do"

"S'a goood Bridge. Built it with me bare hands I did. But do they call me angus the bridge builder?"

"No angus they don't" he says sympathetically.

"And ya see that roof on the school. S' a good rooooof, took me a month, with me bare hands." He takes a pull again. "But do they call em Angus the Roof Maker?"

"No angus they don't"

Angus takes another deeeeep pull at his beer, his face going red.

"But you screw ONE Sheep . . .!!!!"

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It makes me feel that old tri-state-killing-spree urge coming on.

Pricklypear,

You've been reading to much Stephen King. ;-)

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The problem and the solution to this is that if you are in a city -- you become anonymous -- in a smaller town -- everyone knows you.

Part of punishment is shame for your actions, so that you never do that again. If you can't feel remorse -- then you are a sociopath that never needs to live in a the civilized world.

It pains me to write this, but I have to agree with Patrick on this one. There has to be some way for these people to re-enter society.

I vote for "former murderer" and "former child molester."