Think You Have First Amendment Rights?
Well, isn't that cute.
More and more, police are acting like there's no such thing as The First Amendment. This woman was arrested for standing on her lawn and videotaping the police. She was exercising her First Amendment right to videotape the police -- an essential right, in order to see that there is no police misconduct -- and they arrested her.
The officer who arrested her talked about how he didn't feel "safe" with her behind him. I can understand that. Think about what would've happened if the officers beating Rodney King had been able to stop the guy from videotaping them. From my book, I See Rude People -- a bit on videotaping police misconduct (and other sorts of misconduct):
It's a recent phenomenon, the power of the Average Joe to expose wrongdoing and affect change with relatively inexpensive and widely available consumer electronics -- like a video camera that anyone with a few hundred dollars can pick up at the corner electronics store.Some might say the earliest example of this is Abraham Zapruder's 8 millimeter home movie of the Kennedy assassination, but Zapruder caught the shooting by accident while filming the parade. The first major intentional example of Average Joe electronic journalism was in 1991, although it wasn't Web-based since only a smattering of uber-geeks were puttering around on what would become the World Wide Web.
Los Angeles resident George Holliday, then a manager at a big plumbing and rooting company, was awakened in the middle of the night by sirens. He ran to his apartment window and looked out on four white LAPD officers engaged in the beating of an arrest-resisting black man, Rodney King (who'd just led the officers on a car chase, and who subsequently charged at one of the officers). Holliday turned on his Sony Handycam and rolled the videotape -- the videotape that was aired, seen, written and talked about around the world.
The broadcasting of the tape led to the trial and eventual acquittal of the officers -- in Simi Valley, a conservative, white-on-white bedroom community of Los Angeles. Blacks were enraged by the verdict, suspecting from the start that Simi Valley was no place for a fair trial, and the racially driven LA riots flared -- six days of looting, arson, robbery and murder.
The four officers were later retried on Federal civil rights violations, and two were convicted. Officer Laurence Powell, who brutally clubbed King with his baton numerous times -- including in the face, against LAPD policy, and typed on his patrol car computer, "I havent [sic] beaten anyone this bad in a long time" -- was found guilty. Sergeant Stacey Koon was the supervising officer on the scene. Koon, a cop with over 90 commendations who'd once given mouth-to-mouth rescuscitation to a black transvestite with open mouth sores, and who never beat King and unsuccessfully tried to subdue him by twice tasing him, was also found guilty. All four officers are now off the force.
The woman in this current case of videotaping the police, 28-year-old Emily Good, now faces a misdemeanor charge of obstructing governmental administration. Or, as I would edit that, protecting our rights and guarding against police misconduct.
Thank you, Emily Good.
Some newsroomlawblog thoughts on videotaping the police.
And here, from a cop bulletin board, policeworld:
James and Barbara Smith filed suit against the City of Cumming, Georgia (the "City"), and its police chief, Earl Singletary, pursuant to 42 U.S.C. § 1983, alleging that the City police had harassed the Smiths, including a claim that Mr. Smith had been prevented from videotaping police actions in violation of Smith's First Amendment rights....As to the First Amendment claim under Section 1983, we agree with the Smiths that they had a First Amendment right, subject to reasonable time, manner and place restrictions, to photograph or videotape police conduct. The First Amendment protects the right to gather information about what public officials do on public property, and specifically, a right to record matters of public interest.







Between this sort of thing and the Free Range Kids stuff, I'm very worried for the US.
NicoleK at June 23, 2011 12:17 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2011/06/think-you-have.html#comment-2296744">comment from NicoleKMe, too, NicoleK, me, too.
Amy Alkon
at June 23, 2011 12:27 AM
Classic case of a "contempt of cop" charge. I wish her well in the inevitable lawsuit.
Sio at June 23, 2011 12:35 AM
I'm predicting that she will easily win a civil rights lawsuit; proving that the first amendment is alive and well. Unlike the dead career of this idiot cop. I love that he thinks he can just issue nonsensical "orders" to a peaceful and lawful citizen and make up law as he goes along.
This isn't a Constitutional crisis, its an idiot who needs to lose his job and a city that needs to be held accountable for putting such a poorly trained knucklehead in a uniform.
whistleDick at June 23, 2011 12:56 AM
Well America, we had a good run...
Isn't it peculiar how police uniforms have gotten so much more militaristic and the military's missions have been turning into police missions...
Red at June 23, 2011 1:12 AM
Here in the Peoples' Democratic Republic of Illinoistan, it's illegal to record the police doing their thing. It's a felony here.
Yeah. But we were born free.
Ed Hering at June 23, 2011 1:58 AM
To those of you who think this is no big deal or that this woman will be able to sue the police:
This is a much bigger problem than you think. Cops routinely get away with this nonsense, using vague laws about interfering with police activities or wiretapping. Cops claim that they have a right of privacy and can't be recorded, but YOU, of course, have no such right when they routinely record you from their dashboard cams.
People go to jail for filming cops; it's not a joke and this is not an isolated instance.
TestyTommy at June 23, 2011 4:17 AM
There is a proper response to uniformed thugs harassing citizens.
It was demonstrated at Lexington and Concord a while back.
TJIC at June 23, 2011 5:26 AM
Ooohhhh boy that is going to be a pretty lawsuit for the city. My support is with you Emily.
Sabrina at June 23, 2011 5:34 AM
I thought this would be about the extra boost the Government just gave to college speech codes. Wrong again.
Those lawsuits are interesting. Harm to the officer is exactly zero. Meanwhile, the Rochester taxpayer takes another beating.
I'd think it would be more productive to have the legislature affirm the right to record public actions by the police in performance of their duties, but they are busy beating their girlfriends or something.
MarkD at June 23, 2011 5:46 AM
I so wish I had a camera on me two years ago when. Was pulled over for speeding. I was speeding, but the cop was so violent in his manner, he made my seven year old in the backseat cry out of fear. He concluded his interaction with me by calling me a dumb bitch. When I went to complain to his Sargent, I was told it was his word against mine, and they had no reason to believe me. Or my kid.
Uh huh.
UW Girl at June 23, 2011 6:57 AM
Dude, in your state they will put you in jail for 14 years if you hit a construction worker on the highway.
You'll do less time if you just shoot the motherfucker.
@TJIC - That's what I'm afraid of. I don't want to have to shoot my neighbors to defend my rights. I like my neighbors. Frankly, I don't want to shoot anyone.
brian at June 23, 2011 8:04 AM
Here in the Peoples' Democratic Republic of Illinoistan, it's illegal to record the police doing their thing. It's a felony here.
Is there any legal action pending surrounding that law? It would seem like filming or photographing police actions (provided you are not disrupting them) should be protected by the First Amendment, as described above. I'd be surprised if that law would be able to survive Constitutional scrutiny.
When I went to complain to his Sargent, I was told it was his word against mine, and they had no reason to believe me.
The presumption that the word of a police officer is worth more than that of a private citizen is broadly shared by other police officers, government officials, prosecutors, and the public at large (i.e., a jury of one's peers). This is why being able to record the police is so important; often, it is the only way to rebut that presumption.
Christopher at June 23, 2011 8:13 AM
"The officer who arrested her talked about how he didn't feel 'safe' with her behind him."
Riiiight.
Spartee at June 23, 2011 8:27 AM
Here in the Peoples' Democratic Republic of Illinoistan, it's illegal to record the police doing their thing. It's a felony here.
Illinois, California have become fiefdoms, where elections don't matter much. B.O., Rahm, Jerry, ... it's becoming like Syria or Lybia.
biff at June 23, 2011 8:38 AM
One thought I had about this was whether the officer, in claiming he did not feel "safe" with the woman standing there was invoking a situation intended to give him some veneer of legal cover for his unlawful orders to the woman. I.e., that a cop can legally order you around in ways he could not otherwise if you are engaging in activities that might give him reason to believe his safety might be compromised. I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case. Anybody else know if this is the case?
Christopher at June 23, 2011 9:10 AM
Granted this is based just one hearing part of one interview with the police chief, but this is an area where LAPD may be progressive: He said that they encourage taping and in fact are installing video cams in the police cars (which of course isn't the same thing as citizen taping, but seems like a good idea nonetheless).
NB at June 23, 2011 9:49 AM
[sarcasm] I completely understand where that officer's coming from. I'd feel unsafe, too. After all, he only had a gun, a truncheon, a stun-gun, and possibly some pepper spray; she had a video camera. Imagine the damage that could have been done with that. [end sarcasm]
*sigh*
J. D. Montague at June 23, 2011 10:04 AM
None of this bodes well for our future. 1984, anyone?
Flynne at June 23, 2011 10:07 AM
"Those lawsuits are interesting. Harm to the officer is exactly zero. Meanwhile, the Rochester taxpayer takes another beating."
Agreed. But it's the taxpayers that continue to vote for government officials who allow this sort of thing to occur regularly because they want to feel "safe" so it makes sense that they should pay for it. It puts the burden of paying for their poor choices back on them.
Sabrina at June 23, 2011 10:29 AM
I believe him. I would not feel safe with her behind me either. Did the rest of you miss the area this is in? Not unrealistic for a cop to think someone might take a shot at him.
I've had cops tell me to go inside before when something was going on. They don't need distractions like that. It's no different than drs making people leave the room when they are concentrating on working on someone. Drs don't let you videotape, either.
If every cop car had videos, it wouldn't be an issue. Plus, she's sounding awfully whiny, not assertive. I HATE that tremulous whiny tone she's using. A lot of women use it. HATE it.
momof4 at June 23, 2011 12:49 PM
Momof4, I see your point, and I don't blame the cops for being on edge in that part of town. But they still don't have any good reason to arrest her. If she was standing there being beligerant or with her hands in her pockets concealing a weapon, it would be one thing. She's not.
She is on her own lawn. She is holding a video camera, not a gun. She's not interfering with the stop. She's not even talking. She's a non threat. What is there to make him feel "unsafe"? Now, they can ASK her to go inside because she's being a distraction. They can REQUEST for her to stop videotaping because it makes them uncomfortable. They cannot ARREST her for not doing so. Their "orders" in this case are not legally binding and she is not obligated to follow them. Being a distraction is perhaps annoying to them, but not illegal.
Sorry but your Doctor comparison doesn't fly. Doctors don't perform medical procedures in a public space. Cops may not like it, but that's part of the job.
Sabrina at June 23, 2011 1:02 PM
"Anybody else know if this is the case?"
It is, at least in California (which, I realize, is not where this video is from). "Officer safety" is used to justify detentions, pat searches, and other police actions that would otherwise be impermissible. This woman was probably booked under the NY equivalent of Cal. Pen. Code section 148, which prohibits resisting, delaying, or obstructing a police officer. The cops will probably claim that her distracting them with her presence and her camera obstructed their ability to do their job.
Silas at June 23, 2011 1:06 PM
Ms. Good was charged with violating this New York criminal statute:
Judging from the video, the prosecutor will have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Ms. Good's physical proximity to the police officer amounted to an intentional obstruction. I don't see any other act that might violate the statute, and the police officer obviously made her physical proximity an issue.
I can imagine a videographer could interfere with police officers during an arrest by being too close so that the officers reasonably felt endangered, either because they were distracted from the suspect or because the videographer was physically threatening. But, if I was the judge and relied on only the videotape, I'd have to say that there was no reasonable grounds for the officer to feel endangered. The officer and the suspect were on the other side of the police car from the videographer, my guess would be 15 to 20 feet away. Unless the videographer threatened to interfere before she turned the camera on (which actually the police officer suggests by stating that she said "very anti-police things"), I think she's in the clear.
Before we nominate Ms. Good for citizen of the year, though, I think a little background may help, especially for these sentences from the WHEC news report:
Hmmm. A search on the WHEC website for "Ravenwood" brings up this.
So is this the community activists standing up to the big, bad banks? Well, I guess you can read it that way if you think mortgages, foreclosure and eviction are illegitimate. Me, I think the evicted grandmother had more than an opportunity to put things right:
Here's a freebie legal tip: if you're unsure to whom you make your mortgage payments, or if two different companies are claiming a right to the payments, put the payments into an escrow account until the problem is resolved. Don't think you can get away without paying. Even if this woman was unsure to whom to send her payments, that doesn't absolve her from failing to pay on her mortgage for two years.
Back to Ms. Good. She and her activist buddies intimidated a marshal who came to serve a lawful eviction order. The marshal returned with a large police escort to perform his legal duty. Instead of obeying the lawful, reasonable police requests that they vacate the premises, Ms. Good and her friends were arrested and physically removed.
That history makes it more likely in my mind that Ms. Good wasn't living up to her name on the night she made that video. I wouldn't be surprised if she said some rather inflammatory things to the police before she turned the camera on. Her previous arrest for interfering with an eviction isn't admissible as evidence to prove she obstructed the police again; however, if she tries to defend herself with testimony about how she obeys reasonable police commands-- bingo, the prosecutor can rebut those claims with her history. And if she makes a Section 1983 civil rights claim against the police, her previous behavior of intimidating the marshal will be admissible to show that the police responded appropriately to her presence on that night.
So, yeah, I think citizens have the right to videotape the actions of police. I'm not sure that Ms. Good is a great flag-bearer for that cause.
Dale at June 23, 2011 1:36 PM
Ed Hering wrote:
Ugh. If anyone wants to see a poorly drafted statute, Illinois' eavesdropper statute is an example: make a broadly described action illegal (recording conversations without consent), and then carve out a multitude of exceptions and qualifications.
Not only is the result objectionable, the statute is practically unreadable.
Dale at June 23, 2011 2:22 PM
Of course we should all remember the advice on Amy's post a few months back about not talking to the police without your attorney present. Here's a few simple guidelines to keep you out of trouble:
http://www.aclu.org/drug-law-reform-immigrants-rights-racial-justice/know-your-rights-what-do-if-you
(Yes yes, it's the ACLU, but the advice is still sound.)
Eric at June 23, 2011 2:39 PM
It is odd how much local government trod on people's right, yet people still think of the "big bad federal government."
Even into my youth, there were states and local governments that would stop people form voting, from free speech, and from marrying someone of a different race.
Today, there are local governments that can downzone my property, or take it by eminent domain. If I start a jitney service, serve alcohol, grow pot on my own property or try to sell it, practice prostitution, and even start up a push-cart food vending service, the local government will stomp on me. They can stop me from putting up a large sign on my property. I could go on, but the list is endless. Often local governments are deep in bed with local business to prevent competition. The entire liquor industry comes to mind.
These punky cops should have ignored to annoying lady with her stupid camera.
BOTU at June 23, 2011 4:28 PM
I believe him. I would not feel safe with her behind me either.
You're too trusting of the police. I suppose if you've never been unfairly hassled by the police or threatened with arrest without cause, that makes sense. I got fucked with enough as a teen to know better.
I don't believe him.
If a cop is scared of a woman armed only with an iPhone, it's not his health he's worried about. He just didn't want anyone recording him while harassing that guy. And he was mad because she didn't obey his unlawful order. So he arrested her. As noted by others above, it was for contempt of cop, not for being a potential threat.
If every cop car had videos, it wouldn't be an issue.
That would solve it. I'm sure that cops would preserve video of their malfeasance. The only thing that will solve things is if it's legal for anyone to record the police in the execution of their duties at any time, so long as he is not interfering. In this case, the woman was not interfering, she was not being threatening.
Plus, she's sounding awfully whiny, not assertive.
She sounded terrified. But still had the guts to stand up to that asshole. Good on her.
Christopher at June 23, 2011 4:53 PM
UW Girl, sometimes it works out. Many years ago, we lived in an apartment complex. The local police doubled as security. One day, they decided to harass my teenage daughters friend. THREE police cars showed up and the lead officer acted like a bully. When I attempted to talk to him in a reasonable manner, he threatened me with arrest. I called his commanding officer, who dismissed the whole thing.
Just recently, I moved back to the same apartments. I brought this incident up with the manager. She said that had ceased to be a problem when the city hired a new police chief three years ago and he truly cleaned house by firing all the bad apples and cancelling all moonlighting contracts. (Since then, someone told me that all the bad apples were hiring by the city just south of us, which explains why they have the worse reputation in the area.)
joe at June 23, 2011 7:14 PM
Unfortunately I forsee the phrase, inadmissible evidence being applied to th recording.
The neighbors however can be witnesses.
Though the idea of calling 911 on the police hits me as laughable.
Joe at June 23, 2011 7:21 PM
Plus, she's sounding awfully whiny, not assertive.
She sounded terrified. But still had the guts to stand up to that asshole. Good on her.
I couldn't agree more, Christopher.
Imagine, momof4, that this happens to your daughter in about 15 years. I'm sure you don't think it will or could....but just imagine that's your daughter standing up for her rights and what she believes in. I wonder if you will be able to bring yourself to be disgusted by her whiney and if that's all you're able to remember (nothing of her brevity)....I know your kind and have known them....you only learn when it happens to you. LAME.
kg at June 23, 2011 10:29 PM
kg, if my child is arrested, I imagine I'll do what my parents did when I was arrested. Sympathize. Help her find a lawyer. Make sure she knows why she was arrested in the hope it doesn't happen again. Freak out on the cops? Doubtful.
My dad beat my ass once for not going inside when the cops were next door doing something, and the cops hadn't even asked us to yet. So I doubt I'd have a lot of sympathy.
Why should she have been terrified? Was she afraid she was going to get shot? Hmmm.....
momof4 at June 24, 2011 9:09 AM
Why should she have been terrified? Was she afraid she was going to get shot? Hmmm.....
No. Just guessing, but I assume she was scared of getting arrested. Asserting your rights against a bullying cop is frightening thing to do, because you know you might end up in jail for doing so. Which is why too few people do it – and our freedoms get narrowed as a result.
Christopher at June 24, 2011 9:31 AM
I usually try to avoid rude comments, but stuff like this really pisses me off. So, stop reading if you are easily offended. Have we hit the point where a cop can tell you to suck his cock and, if you refuse, he can arrest you for not following his order?
Dwatney at June 24, 2011 5:13 PM
momof4,
I have five kids...four biological, one adopted. My oldest is 23 and youngest is 11...only two left at home. You don't know shit until you have raised a couple of teenagers. I understand you got it all worked out...I completely understand. And it's funny.
I'm still disgusted that you called the girl whiney when she clearly wasn't. She is a brave girl. I am proud of her diligence. These charges, if they stick, could affect every aspect of her professional life now and in the future. She takes a huge risk in exercising her rights against brute force. Nothing whiney about that.
kg at June 24, 2011 10:49 PM
Think about what would've happened if the officers beating Rodney King had been able to stop the guy from videotaping them.
Yeah, they would have all been automatically convicted, with no evidence that King was resisting arrest, even after being beaten to the ground multiple times.
WayneB at June 27, 2011 11:22 AM
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