You Have The Right To Free Speech - Unless You're A Divorced Dad
From the AP on the HuffPo, a judge seems a little confused about that freedom of speechie thing, ruling that a man, Mark Byron, has to post daily apologies for comments he posted on his Facebook page about his estranged wife.
Byron says the ruling violates his freedom of speech. (His alternative was 60 days in jail.)
From the article:
The ruling is highly unusual and "troubling because it's a court telling someone to say something to -- in some regards -- his chosen group of friends," said (Cincinnati free speech attorney Jill) Meyer. She noted that the comments were not directed to Byron's wife, Elizabeth Byron, who was blocked from accessing the page.According to the ruling, Byron posted comments on his page in November, saying in part, "If you are an evil, vindictive woman who wants to ruin your husband's life and take your son's father away from him completely -- all you need to do is say you're scared of your husband or domestic partner and they'll take him away."
The Byrons are involved in ongoing divorce and child custody proceedings. Byron has said his wife and the court have prevented him from seeing his 17-month-old son many times. The court maintains he is allowed to see him on a twice-weekly basis.
Domestic Relations Magistrate Paul Meyers last month found Byron in contempt of a protective order because of his Facebook comments. Meyers said that Byron could avoid a 60-day jail sentence and a $500 fine by posting the apology -- written by Meyers -- to his wife and all of his Facebook friends and paying her attorney fees. The same apology must be posted every day no later than 9 a.m.
The June court order prohibited Byron from causing his wife physical or mental abuse, harassment or annoyance. She asked in December that he be found in contempt after learning of the Facebook comments.
Byron's comments expressed frustration, but they were not threats and he didn't make them to his wife, said Cincinnati attorney Jack Greiner, who also specializes in free speech and media issues.
Greiner said he doesn't think the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees freedom of speech and of the press, "allows a court to find that someone has harassed or caused a person to suffer mental abuse merely by expressing one's opinion about a court proceeding in a non-threatening way."
Ignore the annoying HuffPo spokeshead -- here's some video:







On the surface, it's seems ridiculous, yet, I can also see how this might constitute emotional abuse.
Presumably, these aren't just his friends on FB, but mutual friends, aquaintances, and family. Kids today are also quite savvy at seeing what their parents post, and although his son is only 17 months old, what happens when he's older?
I have a FB friend who sometimes posts derogatory things about her ex, who is also her 13 yr old son's dad, and I cringe whenever she does this wondering how her comments may be undermining their father/son relationship.
Still, she has the right to do it, but I could see a judge ordering her not to if the ex made an issue, especially in regards to how these comments effect the child. FB is increasingly being used in divorce and child custody cases to prove adultury or parental alienation.
But the apology is absurd. It's one thing to be restricted from making negative comments and entirely another to be forced to make positive, obviousy disingenuous ones.
LS at February 27, 2012 6:36 AM
The family courts in the US do not operate by the rule of law; they operate at the untethered power and discretion of individual judges. A travesty of justice, as this case shows.
Mike at February 27, 2012 8:00 AM
Mike is exactly right. No due process; judges informed only by state hearsay and their own predjudices.
Signed, a neoliberal
Bob at February 27, 2012 8:48 AM
I interpret his comments as more of a critisism of the US family court system obvious bias.
Which the court then proved by punishing him.
Joe J at February 27, 2012 9:38 AM
Let's see. He was under a "protective order" in the middle of an acrimonious divorce.
He should have been able to figure out that this would be an issue if his wife ever found out.
And that she would use it against him.
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He was prohibited by the courts from causing his wife mental abuse, harassment or annoyance.
Annoyance?
I hope that's a legal term for some specific act - 'cause otherwise all he has to do is irk her slightly to be held in comtempt.
Which he did. And he was.
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It used to be that my freedom to swing my arm ended at the other guy's nose. Now it ends at his feelings.
This is not progress.
Conan the Grammarian at February 27, 2012 11:15 AM
I have started a FB page in support of Mr Byron. Please click like: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Supporters-of-Mark-Byrons-right-to-free-speech/396717043678748
Bill C at February 27, 2012 11:45 AM
"Libel is a false, malicious statement published in mainstream media (i.e. on the internet, in a magazine, etc.). (If the defamatory statements are only spoken, they are called "slander".)"
Most of the time, the statements must be proven false, and it would be tough for someone to prove they aren't actually "evil", and, in this particular case, he poses the rant in general terms, though it's surely obvious to his FB friends that he's speaking of her.
I don't know. My business has to deal with this site "Tripadvisor.com", where anyone can post their criticisms, which has, on a few occassions, gotten personal.
I can't take the comments down, but I can respond to the charges and/or attempt to correct any misleading information. FB is tougher because anyone could malign you - to all your friends and family - and you can't respond if they've "unfriended" or blocked you.
If somebody decided to destroy my business reputation, they could comment repeatedly on Tripadvisor and I'd probably have to get a restraining order, which, as Conan says, is what she had in place.
LS at February 27, 2012 12:00 PM
Yet another reason to stay away from Facebook. Here's another:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2400758,00.asp
Steve Daniels at February 27, 2012 12:00 PM
Paul Meyers is not a judge, he's a Domestic Relations Magistrate.
According to the Hamilton County Court of Domestic Relations Web site, a Magristrate is:
Conan the Grammarian at February 27, 2012 12:03 PM
Volokh Conspiracy had a long thread on this.
@LS
"On the surface, it's seems ridiculous, yet, I can also see how this might constitute emotional abuse."
In general, perhaps; in this case no chance. She would have to go onto his Facebook page - track him down, in other words - to see it. She can easily just stay away. If even so she feels soemhow threatened, insulted, irritated that this exists soemwhere on the internet where people can see it, she doesn't need it taken down, she needs counseling and some mandatory training in the Constitution.
Jim at February 27, 2012 2:18 PM
and although his son is only 17 months old, what happens when he's older?
He'll probably do what alot of us kids of acromonios divorces do, get a copy of all the court transcipts
lujlp at February 27, 2012 3:33 PM
"On the surface, it's seems ridiculous, yet, I can also see how this might constitute emotional abuse." LS
hmmm, and what would you consider calling the prevention of a parent from seeing their child?
My kids tell me fairly often what their mother thinks of me, even heard it a few times when she didn't think I would. Speakerphones are good for that.
So, I tell my kids that everyone has a right to their opinions, and it is up to the listener to decide what they think is right.
I've no doubt that there are 2 sides to this, but lets think about the side that is using the court as a 500 pound hammer. And apologies? Does the magistrate actually think public humiliation will change opinions?
Boyo should watch out tho... this divorce is obviously not going his way, and it certainly CAN get worse.
That is the takeaway. Every time you think it can;t get worse, it does.
SwissArmyD at February 27, 2012 3:56 PM
This does not surprise me.
I wonder what Domestic Relations Magistrate Paul Meyers would do if someone started a web page like PaulMeyersIsAJerk.com that would be free to post any comments on? Or even bought his "named" website.
I was about to that with a local person running for county commissioner until he got his sign off my property.
Jim P. at February 27, 2012 7:46 PM
I agree with Joe's comment earlier. It seemed as much about the court as anything. And the court goes and shows it to be accurate. Clearly not the most insightful court.
The Former Banker at February 27, 2012 7:51 PM
On an Off-topic but related free speech cause: The University of Cincinnati has "free speech zones". From an e-mail I got today:
Jim P. at February 27, 2012 7:52 PM
He should apologize. I'm very sorry that my wife is an evil, vindictive....
Brett at February 27, 2012 11:22 PM
It's as meaningful as those presidential apologies for things I never did. Mistakes were made, but not by me.
MarD at February 28, 2012 4:31 AM
Of course the ruling is ridiculous. On the other hand; there is a reason 'dirty laundry' should be kept 'in house'. Anyone that chooses otherwise gets exactly what they deserve. Be a thinker, not a stinker!
nuzltr2 at February 28, 2012 6:23 AM
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