Nice work...this whole thing is so overreaching and so petty, it's truly unbelievable!

Hall has been in jail since her arrest. Brevard County authorities refuse to accept bail because the shoplifting incident took place in Orange County, meaning Hall must be transferred. Due to the holiday weekend, that may not happen until Thursday, WESH explains.

How the hell does a degree in architecture help in designing jet engines? Guess she must be doing something clerical in pratt and whitney and the media just hypes it up.

These people truly need to get a clue, and a statute of limitations.

How the hell does a degree in architecture help in designing jet engines? -- Redrajesh at January 23, 2013 5:52 PM

I had a manger a few years ago that was trained in IT. She said that for a while she tried to be technical and a manager at the same time and sucked at both. Then she focused on becoming a manager of technical people. Real geeks usually have a problem converting the technical to the normal end-user or management. So my manager understood that enough to take all our details and then explain that to the non-tech types. Architecture is not quite the same as engineering, it does involve at least some physics and engineering ideas.

While an architect may not know how to engineer a jet engine they would probably understand how to talk to the geek and then talk to management.

Wow, another "cold case" solved by technology!

And - "we can arrest you in this county, but we cannot accept another county's money to let you go home." I thought it was only doctors and hospitals that have never heard of electronic transfers, Internet billing, etc.

I'm not really to sympathetic. She's being grabbed for the unpaid fine, so pay the fine and be done with it. Not exactly a long term problem for her.

So, in order to recover $85 for the state of California, the state of Florida is going to spend several, if not tens of, thousand dollars
A)jailing her,
B)feeding her,
C)arraigning her,
D)paying a lawyer to argue extradition,
E)putting her on either a
1)prison transport plane/bus/van
a)feeding her durring transport
2)public plane with a deputised gaurds

All because californias court system found it easier to file a warrent rather than mail a letter?

Also, why should she be responsible for court costs after all this time? Why is it criminal charges have a time limit but bureacratic government bills are forever?

I'm not really to sympathetic. She's being grabbed for the unpaid fine, so pay the fine and be done with it. Not exactly a long term problem for her.

Posted by: Robert

They wont let her post bail, so that means they wont let her pay the fine either. I mean what exactly is bail for an $85 fee when some people facing murder charges are released ROR?

From what I can gather she was arrested on 1/17/13 and is still in jail right now.

You really think she deserves a week in jail over a 22 year old bill for $85 cause the state of California was too lazy to send her a letter 20 years ago?

"I'm not really to sympathetic. She's being grabbed for the unpaid fine, so pay the fine and be done with it. Not exactly a long term problem for her."
Posted by: Robert at January 23, 2013 9:01 PM

Robert: friend of the police state.

As I am going on a cruise next month out of Port Canaveral, I hope I don't have any unpaid parking tickets lurking in my past. I guess she should be glad they didn't nab her as she was boarding.

Only a government would spend so much to collect so little. That is the scandal here.

"How the hell does a degree in architecture help in designing jet engines?"

If she had training in structural engineering as part of her architecture studies, that's a skill that would transfer. And the mind-set, in general, is something that would transfer.

Back in the day, there were a surprising number of people working in software that had degrees in music. There are thought-patter similarities between the two things.

So, in order to recover $85 for the state of California

I believe the warrant was out of Orange County, Florida, about an hour away from where she was arrested.

Assuming that is true they will save the cost of two airline tickets. But is still costs a few hundered a day to incarcerate someone

Warrants order the police to take the person in front of a magistrate. The path to the magistrate in our current justice system is through the jail. The police aren't given the option of finding out if the individual has since become a model citizen. She committed a theft and was charged with it. Maintaining the warrant in the system, court costs for the defendant not showing up, even though everyone else did are all transferred to the taxpayer. Once the person is identified and detained, it is the responsibility of the system to bring the situation to closure and recover the costs on behalf of the taxpayer, if possible. There is a lesson here:
1. Don't Steal
2. Take responsibility if you get caught stealing
3. Take care of old business rather than waiting to see if it catches up with you, because it will, and at the most inconvenient time according to Mr. Murphy.

I'm no friend of the police state.

But, whether she shoplifted 20 years ago or 20 minutes ago, she was found guilty, fined, and never paid the piper.

I'm not saying its going to recoup costs for the state, but there is an old saying I'm fond of:

To pardon one violation is to encourage the commission of many.

Say they forgave it. That is stating outright, "If you skip out on the penalty long enough, we'll cancel the whole damn thing."

And how does that provide for a just society?

It might seem small, but as we do in small things, so we also drift to doing in large.

They might be going overboard, dragging it out over a two week period, but damn, this isn't exactly going to ruin her life, and it isn't as if she were innocent then, or now.

Its not as if she did not know about the fine, she skipped out on paying it every day for 20 years.

Frankly she's just lucky they weren't tacking on interest to it.

It is a good point though, about the cost of housing and feeding her etc. during that time. As she pays that fine, also give her the bill for the man hours, housing, and food that she used for her little stay. Thus the tax payer is not bilked further by her long term evasion of the consequences of her actions.

Robert, first degree murder has a statute of limitations, they refused to let her post bond, the refused to let her pay the fine.

Hell a Disney cruise for 2 adults and 2or3 kids? They probably had a few hundered in cash on them. They could have been told, let go, and on their drive home stopped in Orange county for lunch and popped into the local courthouse.

This is almost as bad as when the blow hard sherrif Joe burnt down a house with tear gas canisterd to arrest a guy on a traffic warrent - the guy posted bail and was back at the house before the fire deptment had finished putting out the flames

They might be going overboard, dragging it out over a two week period, but damn, this isn't exactly going to ruin her life, and it isn't as if she were innocent then, or now.

I went missing for three days because I got nailed for a DUI on a three day weekend and a fucked-up court video system. When I finally was released on my O.R. on the fourth day (three days missing at work) I ended up having to sign a warning letter that if I missed more than two days without notice I would be subject to termination from my job. I have a decent job.

So if no one had notified her company for two weeks and they fired her isn't exactly going to ruin her life in what form or fashion?