Linked Me Alone
I just got a Linked In endorsement request below from some dude I don't know. At all. Not in the slightest.
This is kind of my fault, because I promiscuously yessed all the Linked In requests I got a long time ago, and only stopped doing that a few years ago.
(Linked In isn't really for people like me -- I don't sell pieces of writing because people look me up and see that I worked on the assembly line at the donut factory in 1932, so I didn't much care...just yessed people to make the requests go away, and because it seemed a kinder thing to do.)
Here's the note he sent me:
Dear Amy, I'm sending this to ask you for a brief recommendation of my work that I can include in my LinkedIn profile. If you have any questions, let me know.Thanks in advance for helping me out.
The guy owns a cafe in Washington, D.C., that I have NEVER BEEN TO. I don't recognize his name or really know the first thing about him.
Writing to total strangers to ask them to do you a favor does take...I was going to say balls, but "shameless hubris" is probably more fitting. It also makes you someone I would never, ever recommend, even for a job scraping smashed turds off the bottom of strangers' shoes.
UPDATE: A total stranger just messaged me on Facebook to ask me to read and blurb her book on the grounds that I'm a friend of a friend of hers and an atheist and an advice columnist. I was shocked, but responded politely with a no.
It is an imposition to ask anyone but your mother to read your writing. I sometimes ask close friends to read something, but with that understanding. To expect a total stranger to do work for you, and then use their name to advertise it, and ask you to do it off an e-book to boot...wow.
Also, I FUCKING HATE Facebook mail. It is slow to log into and I can't log it or save it. If somebody has an email address I can reach them at, I use that, and wish people would do the same. But, of course, for some people, what's easiest for them is the primary thing.








Yeah, this is kind of how I felt about Facebook a few years ago... People from back in the mist were sending messages on there as if 'At LAST we have a way to be in touch!'. But there'd been no Christmas cards, no phone call, no eye contact since Jimmy Carter was President… And they could always have put up their own website, or sent an email. Yet suddenly they want to involve me in a Katie Kouric-style facade of intimacy, and if to demand an attoboy for how their Sunday omelet turned out great etc etc.
Anybody looking over a list of references would understand that contacts like the kind you describe mean nothing. We should hope.
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at January 10, 2013 5:10 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/01/linked-me-alone.html#comment-3548143">comment from Crid [CridComment at gmail]I will give references to people who've actually worked for me. I gave a well-deserved glowing one to this young girl I paid to do some reading for me so she could post it on Linked In. She ended up getting a job she loves from her cousin, but then, she was looking for a Manhattan apartment and was competing for one with plenty of takers. They looked at her Linked In and saw my reference -- noting her integrity, and what a great employee she'd be -- and gave her the apartment.
Amy Alkon
at January 10, 2013 5:23 AM
> 'At LAST we have a way to be in touch!'
I was on Facebook for a month, maybe five years ago.
I realized quickly that the reason I was only in touch with five or six friends is that I only WANT those five for six friends.
Yes, I'm way off in the INTJ corner. A fish doesn't need a bicycle and I don't need facebook.
TJIC at January 10, 2013 6:05 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/01/linked-me-alone.html#comment-3548183">comment from TJICI really only post links to blog items on Facebook (save for an occasional post for a friend looking for an apartment or a babysitter in LA), and currently see a few people -- one I know and feel terrible for, and another who is a total stranger -- posting bleeding posts about their relationships that have ended badly. I got a question about this and I'm going to answer it for the column -- about what to do when somebody you know is doing that.
Amy Alkon
at January 10, 2013 6:07 AM
I'm afraid it's like being a hot girl in an online dating service. You are out of most men's league, but the "losers" still keep hitting on you.
It's because you're hot, and it costs them nothing to hit on you. There's always a 1 in 10000 chance they'll get a positive outcome.
Lamont Cranston at January 10, 2013 6:45 AM
> I will give references to people who've actually
> worked for me.
Good lady.
There once was an article that described the fine art of writing honest letters of 'recommendation' in a milieu where accountability had to be held to a righteous minimum... When applicants might take legal or other retributive actions against seniors who appraised their talents truthfully.
Typical wordings included
andIf you — the prospective employer — didn't take the hint, it was your own problem.
Crid [cridcomment at gmail] at January 10, 2013 7:18 AM
This has been made worse by the fact that LinkedIn now asks members to endorse their connections for certain skills, without anyone making a request. When I go into certain areas, I am asked "Does so-and-so have these skills or expertise?" If I know that they do, I endorse them. It's just a click.
I have also been asked by connections to write a recommendation. Like you, I'm happy to do it if I have direct knowledge that they do good work in whatever position they're asking me to recommend them for. I don't have any connections that aren't legitimate business or personal contacts, but that doesn't mean I can speak to their skills.
When I request a recommendation, I also offer to write one, and vice-versa. That means I don't ask people to recommend me whom I wouldn't recommend in turn. I also don't ask anyone for recommendations who isn't familiar with my work or who is a crappy writer. A recommendation that says "Beth is awesome and works good" hurts more than it helps.
Boldly Beth at January 10, 2013 9:24 AM
I'm a writer as well, and it seems to be a peril of the job that the instant you've published something or got a regular gig writing somewhere, everyone thinks you're available to teach them how to become a bestselling novelist.
A former colleague reached out to me and asked me to get coffee with his current intern (whom I'd never met) because she was "maybe interested in publishing or writing." When I said I was pressed for time and couldn't meet with everyone who wanted my boilerplate pep talk about being a writer (I've even written it up in a blog post to send to people to save time), he said I lived really close to where she works so it shouldn't be too inconvenient for me.
anonymous at January 10, 2013 9:48 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/01/linked-me-alone.html#comment-3548462">comment from anonymousI do think it's good and important to mentor people, but I'm selective.
I have mentored my assistant and continue to -- and edit her stuff and help her make connections. She's a really compelling thinker and writer and it's been really exciting for me to help her bring out and manage her talent.
The young woman I wrote the reference letter for, I care deeply about. She's shown a lot of integrity and smarts -- and guts -- in the work she did for me, and I was happy to make connections for her. I tried to find her a job with a number of people I know, and felt good about every effort I made, though none came through -- terribly tough job market, not that she isn't good.
And a friend who has commented here, whose daughter I respect for her hard work throughout school, has asked me to talk to her daughter about writing. And I will happily do that, although I've asked her to ask her daughter to get a sense of the kind of writing she wants to do. I may also hire her for some part-time work in the summer. My friend has worked really hard and lived a frugal life so she could send her daughter to a top LA private school and to a top college, and I respect her for that, and I respect her daughter from what my friend's told me about her over the years (the kind of qualities her behavior seems to reflect).
In short, if you are going to ask somebody for something, there needs to be a real connection there and an emotional reason for them to help you. If I don't know you and am not inspired by what you do, not only will I not give you a recommendation, I'll probably "unfriend" you in whatever way or ways that is possible.
Amy Alkon
at January 10, 2013 10:04 AM
On the other hand there's something to be said for having brass balls. Conventional wisdom says that writers shouldn't take no for an answer - just keep submitting, and eventually you'll get a yes. I know good writers who haven't been published because they're not willing to push at all, and mediocre writers who've been published because they went out and formed relationships with people who could help them. It's all about relationships. Some people think having a social or professional network connection means they have meaningful relationships. There's a fine line, because some people are willing to help even the most tenuous connection, while others don't want to get involved in the professional lives of even their closest friends.
Boldly Beth at January 10, 2013 11:11 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/01/linked-me-alone.html#comment-3548536">comment from Boldly BethActually, this woman who messaged me on Facebook used our mutual friend's name. The polite thing to do, and the smart thing to do, would be to ask him to ask me. I still would say no, but I wouldn't be offended because we have a relationship.
I recently asked a person who's a regular commenter here to read one of my chapters -- she's somebody I feel like I'm friends with (even though we have never met in person) and care about, and I respect her opinion. Also, I know she read and liked I See Rude People. Here's how I asked her (I went back and looked for the email):
Note that I offered to print it out and mail it to her. What was primary to me was HER convenience, and making it easy for her to read if she wanted to read it.
And she did read it, and really liked it, and found one thing I'd gotten lazy on that I needed to fix, which I did. Her read (and what she liked and notated) helped me see that I'm on the right track with the way I'm doing this book, which I was a little nervous about.
Getting back to Boldy Beth's comment, I realize that when I ask things of people that there needs to be something in it for them. It can't just be that I need their help. At the very least, if I were asking somebody for a blurb, I'd show them that I'd read their work and understood it.
I ask people on my radio show using this notion. I wrote to my guest for this weekend, Dr. Richard Wiseman, in a way that showed him that I really respect and am excited by his work -- and that I get it. I also gave him a link to a show by Dr. Dylan Evans, whom he knows, to show him that coming on this show would be worth his while. I also tell guests I will promote their books on the show -- which is easy, because I only have on guests whose work I really respect. (I would be embarrassed to promote sucky thinking!)
So, you can't just have brass balls -- you need to accessorize them with thoughtfulness.
Amy Alkon
at January 10, 2013 11:35 AM
So, you can't just have brass balls -- you need to accessorize them with thoughtfulness.
Thanks for the quote and the mental image!
Boldly Beth at January 10, 2013 12:54 PM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/01/linked-me-alone.html#comment-3548611">comment from Boldly BethTee hee!
Amy Alkon
at January 10, 2013 1:18 PM
I'll add that writers succeed through persistence and adaptation, not persistence alone -- and adaptation involves a heavy amount of courtesy, because it means adapting your requests to another person's convenience.
Persistence got the attention of my agent when I was on the agent hunt -- when I didn't hear back within a month, I sent a courteous (not demanding) follow-up. That was when she requested my materials, and thanked me for resurfacing in her overflowing inbox, as she'd meant to follow up.
That's where the adaptation kicked in. I adapted to her schedule, pacing my follow-up emails to what seemed to be her general timeline for responding to things (in other words, I didn't pester her a day after sending something if I knew it typically takes her two weeks to get around to reading a manuscript). I revised my manuscript according to her very wise suggestions, instead of inflexibly demanding she accept it "as is." And I adapted my expectations for submission strategy to her expert opinion -- I didn't whine for bigger, better, faster.
Now, an opposite example: a writer who was persistent but not adaptive. During a stint editing and acquiring for a small press, I got serial submissions of the same work from one particular author. The first time, I told him it needed work but showed promise; I wrote a detailed revision letter; and said I wouldn't make any promises but I'd like to see a revision. Instead he resubmitted the same thing again in a few months. And a third time. That kind of persistence did not impress me.
anonymous at January 10, 2013 2:17 PM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/01/linked-me-alone.html#comment-3548670">comment from anonymousInteresting, anonymous. Thanks for posting that.
I have two literary agents who co-rep me, but the woman of the two does more of the word-by-word, deal-point-by-deal-point work.
Anyway, just after we had decided to be agent/client, she went on just-had-a-kid leave. (She told me she was pregnant before she signed me, and I wanted her enough that I didn't mind waiting.) She was gone from November through March. She told me I was the ONLY client of hers who didn't contact her in this time and really appreciated that. And believe me, patience is not my greatest virtue, and I wanted to, and had stuff to ask her, because she had intended to finish going through my proposal in November, before she left and didn't have time. But, "leave" means you've LEFT, or it would be called "still kinda working." So, I pretended she was in Greenland with no phone service or Internet access and left her alone.
I also take criticism very well from people I respect, and my agent made my book better by "tweaking" the approach. I truly appreciate this and thank her for it from time to time.
The other thing, and I write about this in the book I'm working on now: Everybody underestimates, 1. How long it will take them to write something, and 2. How long it will take them to read something -- if they ever do.
Not having unrealistic expectations in these areas is very helpful.
And I think I helped a friend of mine by telling her when she got criticism from an agent about her novel to not do what we automatically do -- get defensive -- but to look and see if there was some validity. The agent told her her character needed more vulnerability. That seems like an overwhelming thing. But, I told my friend, "Go through your manuscript with little yellow sticky bookmark tags and a highlighter, and highlight/sticky every place where you could add a little." She did, and made the changes, and the book is much richer now.
Amy Alkon
at January 10, 2013 2:56 PM
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