Atty For Robbery Suspect Demands Recordings Of Calls Missing From Car Robbery Case -- From NSA
Hey, as long as they have them, he thought, they can provide them, figured the attorney. Jonathan Turley blogs:
I was interviewed yesterday in an extraordinary case out of South Florida where Attorney Marshall Dore Louis faced a problem that phone records material to his defense of a car robbery suspect have disappeared. Accordingly, he is seeking the records from one resource that has stored every call from every citizen: the National Security Agency (NSA). After all, the Administration has admitted the existence of the storage and program. After that, Dore is arguing that it is just another government agency with material evidence. Indeed, the NSA wanted a complete record of all calls to store and it is now being called upon to hand over material evidence in its possession.Clearly, NSA views this program as a one way street and will not yield willingly to being a resource of litigators. The interesting question will be how it now objects. In the past, the government has refused to confirm such programs but it has now done so. In February, the Administration succeeded in blocking a challenge to its surveillance policies by arguing that any confirmation of such programs would put American lives at risk. Now that the case is dismissed, they have simply acknowledged the program. The decision is Clapper v. Amnesty International, No. 11-1025, and it is a true nightmare for civil liberties. The Supreme Court rejected the standing of civil liberties groups and citizens to challenge the Obama Administration's surveillance programs.
...Dore says that the prosecutors have informed him that a month of the records of defendant Terrance Brown are missing for two phones. His provider, MetroPCS, says it has no longer has them. Then Dore was reading the newspapers and found an agency who helpfully collected all calls for all citizens. If the program is no longer secret and the calls were obtained directly from the carriers (without some secret method or device), what is the objection from the government beyond that it finds such requests a hassle? Are they ready to come to court and say that they are the government and they are not here to actually help citizens . . . just spy on them?
From the Politico/AP story behind Turley's piece:
U.S. District Judge Robin Rosenbaum initially told the Justice Department to respond by the end of Wednesday but granted a request from prosecutors for an extra week. They must respond to whether disclosure of the data, if they exist, would harm national security. The judge also said she would review whether the NSA surveillance, authorized by the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, was legally conducted.
Per Drudge, the NSA is trading information with other companies. I wonder what the accused has to offer?
MarkD at June 14, 2013 7:31 AM
What arrogant bastards.
Hmmmph. I think that's what I'll call my band, the Arrogant Bastards. Our acronym can be NSA.
Flynne at June 14, 2013 9:27 AM
What I wonder about is how the long time NSA employees are handling all the publicity.
For years the NSA was nick-named No Such Agency. The employees were directed to only say they worked for the government, and if pressed had a "fake" id that said USDA, or EPA or some other agency. There were whole suburbs of Ft. Meade that the employees were/are encouraged to live in.
This was happening even in the late 90's.
So now the the NSA is the headline maker, I bet some are just cringing.
Jim P. at June 14, 2013 7:39 PM
Anyone who can be bullied, or pushed into living in Maryland, is not smart enough to work for the NSA to begin with.
The taxes there, both real estate, and income will cost you thousands a year more than being a resident of Virginia.
Isab at June 14, 2013 7:57 PM
I keep having the urge to begin and end every phone conversation with, "Fuck the NSA."
nonegiven at June 16, 2013 7:17 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/06/atty-for-robber-1.html#comment-3751416">comment from nonegivenI keep having the urge to begin and end every phone conversation with, "Fuck the NSA."
Love that.
Amy Alkon
at June 16, 2013 10:03 AM
These geeks make the Big Bang Theory guys look normal.
Jim P. at June 16, 2013 6:51 PM
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