LSD is an interesting drug for people who suffer psychosis.

It seems in some people who are predisposed to schizophrenia (or other mental illnesses) it brings the "bad" symptoms out earlier then they would have otherwised occurred.

Or if you are very closely related to someone who is mentally ill, it triggers those similar type of symptoms, but only for a short period of time and they become "dormant" again. So while you may have mental illness in you, it is never expressed unless chemically triggered.

Interesting huh?

LSD when made right is a great drug, especially for people who suffer cluster headaches. It's non-addictive too. I think-from the descriptions I've read-it gives you normals a snapshot of the high/ weirdness we crazies sometimes get naturally.

Anyways I used to assume drugs were illegal because they are addictive.......

Note that once again, the truth is discarded in discussing the use of a drug?

Lie. Lie again, because someone is using drugs. From there, it's easy to lie about everything else you do.

Then, wonder, in shock, why no one tells you the truth about other things in your life.

Notice also: it's a case of a living male and a dead wife. The other way around, no way would she be prosecuted.

Well, first of all, if you take more than one dose of LSD at a time, you're either an idiot or a masochist.

I've tripped, I can't even count how many times. One tab, each time. Sometimes only a half. Anymore than that is a recipe for disaster. I had mostly good trips, and one or two sketchy ones in which I was able to recover myself and my sanity before anything bad happened. When I hit my 20s, I used to trip just once a year, usually on my birthday, just to keep things in perspective and to remember to not take myself too seriously. But once people started lacing it with strychnine, I stopped taking it. It's just too risky anymore.

Exactly, the way we eat sugar nowadays has worse effects on society (and more costly) than taking a couple of hits of LSD.

I saw a mom feeding her two kids a big coke and 2 donuts each. That is by far worse to me than non-addictive drugs like LSD used by adults.

Well I think its a good thing, any man who would force his wife to take drugs deserves some jail time.

Whats that? She took it willingly?

/sarc>

Had she shot herself with a gun he bought would they be charging him with murder?

"But once people started lacing it with strychnine, I stopped taking it."

I only tried it once. Like a corner of a tab, not very much anyway. It was great at first. I was watching MTV (you know, back when they did rock videos) and saw Herbie Hancock's "Rockit" for the first time. I wasn't sure if I was watching it or imagining it.

But I had to keep unclenching my jaw all night, and I kept curling up and stretching out my arms and legs. I had no idea about the strychnine until later, but I've wondered about that ever since.

That 'strychinine in the lsd' rumor has been oft-debunked.

This is one of the better notes on the subject:

"Strychnine is not the cause of tracers, cramps, nausea, or amphetamine-like LSD-effects. Its possible that poorly synthesized LSD might have other ergot derivatives in it, which might contribute to the harsh body load that some get on taking LSD. Also, the very close chemical relatives 1-Methyl-LSD and 1-Acetyl-LSD (which break down into LSD in aqueous solution) might be present in some street samples and might contribute to the harsh body load. (Petter Stafford has claimed in his _Psychedelics Encyclopedia_ that 1-Acetyl-LSD is supposedly "smoother" than d-LSD -- thus "strychnine laced acid" may acutally be pure d-LSD, while "pure lsd" may be 1-Acetyl-LSD or some substitute). And the chemicals iso-LSD and lumi-LSD which are breakdown products of LSD might contribute to the body loading on some trips, particularly via a hypothetical synergistic effect. Given this plethora of possible chemicals in street "LSD", its not needed to look to a chemical which has hardly ever been found in analyzed samples to explain variations in the strength and "cleanliness" of street acid."

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth5.shtml

Thanks, Gog_Magog, good to know, I guess. Once was enough for me anyway. My main lesson was: don't try making yourself vomit thinking you'll feel better and be ready to go to work the next day, cuz it doesn't work that way.

When I'm in a certain mood I'll try just about anything. That night was several decades ago, but I recall I had already been drinking and smoked some pot,I think I might have had some mushrooms too, so when someone offered me some acid I was all hell yeah, bring it on! I'm a regular Hunter S.Thompson, oh you betcha.

1st: I can't believe Amy did acid and 'shrooms. (I believe her, I just never would have imagined it.)

2nd: Speaking of LSD, one of Timothy Leary's grandchildren is very, very famous. Any guess's?

-No googling! You have to explain why you may know the answer.-

(I'm betting Crid gets this first, though he has been noticebly absent for a while.) It is 3:29 West Coast Time.

Enthrall me with your acumen.

Nicely done, Gog.

I have to ask: what about reality do you find so boring, so oppressive that you have to escape from it?

I have talked to people who spend a fortune to go see a concert, and then cannot recall anything about it due to being drunk, yet they will insist that they had a wonderful time.

LOL@ Rad! When did you stop beating your wife?

Seriously, though, I quit taking drugs years and years ago.

I'm not anti-drug. I just feel like I'm not going to learn any more useful lessons with them.

Once my prime motivators to take drugs were achieved, I wasn't able to move beyond the basic changes I had needed to make - I didn't become the person I thought the drugs would help me become. I just ended up sitting on the couch and giggling a lot.

So I quit taking them.

"2nd: Speaking of LSD, one of Timothy Leary's grandchildren is very, very famous. Any guess's?"

Without Googling? Then I'm going to say Mitt Romney.

Let' Save Democracy!

I meant *Let's*.

Take two: Let's Save Democracy!

"people who spend a fortune to go see a concert, and then cannot recall anything about it due to being drunk"

The guy who founded Alcoholics Anonymous took LSD, and had a profound feeling of calm. He said it helped him lose his addiction to alcohol.

What would happen to quality control if we decriminalized LSD? Would the woman be dead if the manufacturing of the drug was in the open?

"The guy who founded Alcoholics Anonymous took LSD, and had a profound feeling of calm. He said it helped him lose his addiction to alcohol. "

I don't doubt it. Stories like that and Huxley's (the younger) description of it certainly didn't stifle my curiosity about it, especially when Huxley had himself dosed on his deathbed.

From his descriptions I'd suspect that the doses were (a) pharmaceutical (it wasn't illegal back when Americans wrote and studied poetry in grade school) and (b) smaller than your average street dose.

Nothing like having the sudden cosmic realization of duality to relieve you of a lot of your own inner bullshit.

"I have to ask: what about reality do you find so boring, so oppressive that you have to escape from it?"

Every time I think I can't buy new shoes because of the economy I find reality very oppressive, depressive, and compressive.

Thanks for the info, Gog. Whatever it is that people were putting in the LSD I was eating at the time, it wasn't nice. And this: Nothing like having the sudden cosmic realization of duality to relieve you of a lot of your own inner bullshit. was mostly why I took it. I try to rid myself of that inner bullshit every so often, but nothing relieves it like a nice dose. Problem is, it's not enough of a cosmic kick in the ass to make it stick for as long as I need it to.

Eric, it isn't Denis Leary, is it?

Uma Thurman, but great guess Flynne.

Check out her history- http://www.nndb.com/people/598/000023529/

This says Leary was her godfather- in the Pulp Fiction commentary it says Leary was her grandfather.

"From his descriptions I'd suspect that the doses were (a) pharmaceutical (it wasn't illegal back when Americans wrote and studied poetry in grade school) and (b) smaller than your average street dose."

You're probably right.

Never forget, on a summer afternoon in 1970, Dock Ellis pitched a no-hitter for the Pittsburgh Pirates while under the influence of LSD. I wonder if that was pharmaceutical.

Half the players were using amphetamines and booze back in those days anyway.

Uma Thurman's relationship to Timothy Leary seems to be non existent. According to wiki, Uma Thurman's mother was previously married to Leary, before her marriage to Robert Thurman, Uma's father.

"Every time I think I can't buy new shoes because of the economy I find reality very oppressive, depressive, and compressive."

And so - is this an excuse to drug yourself, or motive to work harder?

Because there are people doing very well in any "economy".

Some people just want to do drugs. They lie about it, and then it is easy to lie about other things, too.