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https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/08/blinky.html#comment-3882897">comment from Patrick
Ted Nugent's wife Shemane was busted at the airport with a gun in her carry-on. (Obviously Ted did not marry above him when it comes to having brains.)
People don't get busted at the airport because they're dumb but because they're human and to be human is to be forgetful.
Sorry, Amy, but if you lose your car keys and a three-year-old finds them, you'll likely find them under the coffee table. If you misplace your gun, however, and a three-year-old finds it, you're going to be visited by a tragedy.
Gun ownership carries a different set of rules, and if you cannot compensate for human forgetfulness when it comes to your gun, it would be better for everyone that you don't own one.
Because these horrifying incidents were once ruled as "accidents" by the authorities, not wishing to visit further hardship on the newly bereaved parents. But our patience is apparently at an end. Now this "accident" goes by another name: negligence.
So, I stand by what I said. You need to take the necessary precautions when it comes to gun ownership. If you don't, you're dumb.
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/08/blinky.html#comment-3883280">comment from Patrick
Sorry, Amy, but if you lose your car keys and a three-year-old finds them, you'll likely find them under the coffee table. If you misplace your gun, however, and a three-year-old finds it, you're going to be visited by a tragedy.
Gotta agree with Patrick, there are some things in life you just don't lose track of or forget about having in your possession. A gun is one of those, whether you have kids or not.
And who doesn't check all the pockets of their carryon luggage before packing anyway? Gotta maximize use of that space!
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/08/blinky.html#comment-3883457">comment from Elle
Gotta agree with Patrick, there are some things in life you just don't lose track of or forget about having in your possession. A gun is one of those, whether you have kids or not.
Some people carry a gun as a regular daily thing.
My dad does when he goes into dangerous neighborhoods and probably routinely. (My parents are in commercial real estate in the oh-so-lucrative market of Detroit and the surrounding areas.)
If you don't have kids or animals in the house, and your bag goes from home to work to home again, and has a bunch of pockets, it's not that hard to forget that you had your handcuffs, your Swiss Army knife or your gun in there.
For the record, my dad has never shot anyone in the, oh, 40-some years he's been armed.
I'm totally a proponent of CCW, or open carry for that matter. I've been shooting since I was about seven or eight. Hunting since I was 14 - is that enough bona fides for you?
If someone is carrying daily then I hope they're thinking about it daily too. Also, not sure how much help a handgun would be if you forgot it was in your bag. My dad, for one, would be horrified if I ever "forgot it was even in there." (He's been armed for 40-some years too and *also* never shot anyone - quelle suprise!)
A gun is not chapstick, a swiss army knife, or handcuffs. You cannot be lazy with it.
Elle
at August 30, 2013 7:08 PM
If you were to ask anyone the inventory of the trunk of their car would they know exactly what was in there?
I have a spare gun in my OverNights (ON) bag that I always have there. That is next to my BOB (BugOut Bag). If I'm grabbing BOB, I'm going to probably just open carry, fuck you all.
If I'm grabbing the ON because my boss wants me to go to Anywhere, ST on a 45 minute notice, I may not think about it.
"If you were to ask anyone the inventory of the trunk of their car would they know exactly what was in there?"
Jumper cables, a fencing foil, a tatty quilt, some empty collapsed boxes, half a dozen shopping bags, plastic twine, a few bottles of water, spare tire and jack, a baseball bat, and a busted umbrella. (Granted, you'll have to take my word for it.....)
"If I'm grabbing the ON because my boss wants me to go to Anywhere, ST on a 45 minute notice, I may not think about it."
Really? You *know* you have a gun in there and when you're grabbing the bag it doesn't ping anywhere in your brain that "huh, I'm carrying a weapon with me"?
Ok, maybe I'm the weird one for keeping track of my stuff. Personally I cannot imagine being so casual about a firearm that I could forget where it is.
Elle
at August 30, 2013 11:09 PM
Ok, maybe I'm the weird one for keeping track of my stuff. Personally I cannot imagine being so casual about a firearm that I could forget where it is. -- Elle at August 30, 2013 11:09 PM
A gun is not chapstick, a swiss army knife, or handcuffs. You cannot be lazy with it. -- Elle at August 30, 2013 7:08 PM
A firearm without a round in the chamber is no more dangerous than a hammer, rock, or a big stick. I keep track of the unloaded ones in the same fashion that I keep track of the toolbox in my trunk.
And if I am driving to a location, I want to have the option of self-defense at the hotel I'm going to.
In a stress position (immediate flight) I might forget the spare, from the simple fact that it is a hammer and not threat to anyone.
Ted Nugent's wife Shemane was busted at the airport with a gun in her carry-on. (Obviously Ted did not marry above him when it comes to having brains.)
Surprised to know Ted Nugent is married. I didn't know he even had a sister.
Patrick at August 30, 2013 4:40 AM
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! It's terrible! It's awful! It's catastrophic! I'm following this story until I find out it's been saved!
Patrick at August 30, 2013 5:34 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/08/blinky.html#comment-3882897">comment from PatrickTed Nugent's wife Shemane was busted at the airport with a gun in her carry-on. (Obviously Ted did not marry above him when it comes to having brains.)
People don't get busted at the airport because they're dumb but because they're human and to be human is to be forgetful.
Amy Alkon
at August 30, 2013 8:52 AM
Sorry, Amy, but if you lose your car keys and a three-year-old finds them, you'll likely find them under the coffee table. If you misplace your gun, however, and a three-year-old finds it, you're going to be visited by a tragedy.
Gun ownership carries a different set of rules, and if you cannot compensate for human forgetfulness when it comes to your gun, it would be better for everyone that you don't own one.
Because these horrifying incidents were once ruled as "accidents" by the authorities, not wishing to visit further hardship on the newly bereaved parents. But our patience is apparently at an end. Now this "accident" goes by another name: negligence.
So, I stand by what I said. You need to take the necessary precautions when it comes to gun ownership. If you don't, you're dumb.
Patrick at August 30, 2013 12:19 PM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/08/blinky.html#comment-3883280">comment from PatrickSorry, Amy, but if you lose your car keys and a three-year-old finds them, you'll likely find them under the coffee table. If you misplace your gun, however, and a three-year-old finds it, you're going to be visited by a tragedy.
Does Ted Nugent's wife have a three-year-old?
Amy Alkon
at August 30, 2013 12:48 PM
I doubt it, she's 51. He's 64.
Patrick at August 30, 2013 1:31 PM
Gotta agree with Patrick, there are some things in life you just don't lose track of or forget about having in your possession. A gun is one of those, whether you have kids or not.
And who doesn't check all the pockets of their carryon luggage before packing anyway? Gotta maximize use of that space!
Elle at August 30, 2013 5:01 PM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/08/blinky.html#comment-3883457">comment from ElleGotta agree with Patrick, there are some things in life you just don't lose track of or forget about having in your possession. A gun is one of those, whether you have kids or not.
Some people carry a gun as a regular daily thing.
My dad does when he goes into dangerous neighborhoods and probably routinely. (My parents are in commercial real estate in the oh-so-lucrative market of Detroit and the surrounding areas.)
If you don't have kids or animals in the house, and your bag goes from home to work to home again, and has a bunch of pockets, it's not that hard to forget that you had your handcuffs, your Swiss Army knife or your gun in there.
For the record, my dad has never shot anyone in the, oh, 40-some years he's been armed.
Amy Alkon
at August 30, 2013 5:20 PM
I'm totally a proponent of CCW, or open carry for that matter. I've been shooting since I was about seven or eight. Hunting since I was 14 - is that enough bona fides for you?
If someone is carrying daily then I hope they're thinking about it daily too. Also, not sure how much help a handgun would be if you forgot it was in your bag. My dad, for one, would be horrified if I ever "forgot it was even in there." (He's been armed for 40-some years too and *also* never shot anyone - quelle suprise!)
A gun is not chapstick, a swiss army knife, or handcuffs. You cannot be lazy with it.
Elle at August 30, 2013 7:08 PM
If you were to ask anyone the inventory of the trunk of their car would they know exactly what was in there?
I have a spare gun in my OverNights (ON) bag that I always have there. That is next to my BOB (BugOut Bag). If I'm grabbing BOB, I'm going to probably just open carry, fuck you all.
If I'm grabbing the ON because my boss wants me to go to Anywhere, ST on a 45 minute notice, I may not think about it.
It's not like a cop had a negligent discharge with her firearm.
It's a stupid mistake.
Jim P. at August 30, 2013 7:14 PM
"If you were to ask anyone the inventory of the trunk of their car would they know exactly what was in there?"
Jumper cables, a fencing foil, a tatty quilt, some empty collapsed boxes, half a dozen shopping bags, plastic twine, a few bottles of water, spare tire and jack, a baseball bat, and a busted umbrella. (Granted, you'll have to take my word for it.....)
"If I'm grabbing the ON because my boss wants me to go to Anywhere, ST on a 45 minute notice, I may not think about it."
Really? You *know* you have a gun in there and when you're grabbing the bag it doesn't ping anywhere in your brain that "huh, I'm carrying a weapon with me"?
Ok, maybe I'm the weird one for keeping track of my stuff. Personally I cannot imagine being so casual about a firearm that I could forget where it is.
Elle at August 30, 2013 11:09 PM
A firearm without a round in the chamber is no more dangerous than a hammer, rock, or a big stick. I keep track of the unloaded ones in the same fashion that I keep track of the toolbox in my trunk.
And if I am driving to a location, I want to have the option of self-defense at the hotel I'm going to.
In a stress position (immediate flight) I might forget the spare, from the simple fact that it is a hammer and not threat to anyone.
Jim P. at August 31, 2013 6:41 AM
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