Psychiatrist Emily Deans: Coffee May Keep You From Suicide
I just love psychiatrist Emily Deans. Here's another great blog post by her on Psychology Today on how coffee may be protective against suicide:
A recent study done by the Harvard School of Public Health analyzed the coffee-drinking habits of over 208,000 people over decades. In the time frame of the study, 277 of those people died by suicide. Interestingly, those people who drank 2-4 cups of coffee a day had a 50% lower risk of death by suicide. The researchers thought caffeine might be the player here, as caffeine has chemical activity that not only increases alertness (as we well know) but also has some antidepressant effects. The data is consistent with a bunch of previous studies over the years.
This last bit is important. An epidemiologist who encourages me to be skeptical in scientifically solid ways in reading studies has coached me to look for a body of work on a topic, not just go by a single study.
Deans later very clearly explains some of the problems with the "science" you see in mainstream media -- referencing cohort studies like they mean something, when they're really, as I call them, "leaps to conclusions after the fact." In Deans' words:
The limitations of these studies are profound. They are observational and tell us nothing about cause and effect (we can only guess at that). For those reasons, when large observational studies tell me that moderate exercise or fish or oatmeal is good for me, I yawn.We've all been told that these things are good for us by the health authorities for the past gazillion years. Healthy people with adequate impulse control and executive planning capabilities will therefore adjust their lives to eat more fish and get some exercise. They are also far more likely to not drink heavily, not smoke, and get the appropriate amount of sleep etc. etc. etc. And while the epidemiologists say they can pick apart all these variables if they ask the right questions and use the right computer program to take out one variable, I'm skeptical.
But the same limitations that plague the results of these large observational studies that seem to form the backbone of public health advice these days is actually a strength of the coffee study. Coffee consumption is not one of those healthy things we've been told to do. In fact, we are typically told to limit caffeine, because it can make you anxious and irritable and wreck your sleep. So the coffee drinkers are not typically the magical healthy cohort of people who all drink green smoothies and eat lentil soup. In fact, coffee drinkers are more likely to smoke, drink, get poor sleep, and don't exercise as much as those who don't drink coffee. Therefore finding that coffee drinking is associated with less depression and less completed suicide even though coffee drinkers tend to have less healthy habits in general is very interesting.








The short story: "peer review" does NOT mean, "a collection of people who agree with us".
It means that qualified and educated people have examined the methods behind conclusions and confirmed strictly logical links, including uncertainties, assumptions and the limits of the conclusions.
There is an enormous distance between scientific/engineering definitions and colloquial ones, as the latter are allowed to mean almost anything.
Radwaste at August 7, 2013 3:11 AM
It's all caused by breathing. I've never heard of someone who wasn't breathing committing suicide or a scientific study.
MarkD at August 7, 2013 5:35 AM
There was a great article in the Atlantic a few years back on screwed-up medical research and how it gets taken as Gospel.
Grey Ghost at August 7, 2013 6:17 AM
Interesting.
I've read caffeine is terrible for some bi-polars. It can induce mania because it acts as an anti-depressant.
Pill forms of anti-depressants can also induce mania btw. That is why if you have got the crazies you should avoid anything of the sort.
Ppen at August 7, 2013 6:56 AM
Ppen is right; a lot of the stuff designed to treat clinical depresssion is the worst thing you can give to a bipolar. From that aspect, the caffeine thing sort of makes sense. I've been told that the paradoxical effect of stimulants on clinical depression (it actually reduces anxiety in depressed people) is fairly well documented. It seems to be a general rule that any medication that helps depression is bad for bipolar disorder. (I wonder if the contrapositive is true...)
Cousin Dave at August 7, 2013 7:13 AM
Actually, caffeine is what keeps me from killing other people, not myself. If it weren't for caffeiene, I'd likely be serving a nice stretch for multiple homicides in a phsychiatric prison ward somewhere.
Sabrina at August 7, 2013 7:37 AM
Apparently, though, caffeine does effect my ability to spell the word 'caffeine'... damn...
Sabrina at August 7, 2013 7:38 AM
Cousin Dave,
Anti-psychotics dont really do anything for regular people or simply just depressed people. They just get very very sleepy, groggy, tired. I dont know what long term use would do, except possibly make people slower, confused & fat.
It's very controversial but they are prescribed off label for insomnia & other disorders. Also cocaine users take them to get off the "high".
They do however seem to work great on some people with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, in cases where anti depressants DONT work.
Ppen at August 7, 2013 7:48 AM
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