Thursday: A Long Day's Journey Into Toilet TrainingAida, my tiny Chinese Crested puppy, after yesterday pooping on my bedcovers and peeing the crossword puzzle I'd left on the bathroom floor, rallied late in the afternoon.
Yes, Aida finally, finally realized that my pleas of "Go pee! Go pee now!" made while I was standing outside and she was sniffing the world and looking for a leaf to chew on meant that I wanted her to put pee on grass, and right then rather than 20 minutes from then.
My late Yorkie Lucy took about two weeks to toilet train. Chinese Cresteds have a reputation of being tough to toilet train, but well, bribery worked.
My breeders said they like to use treats to train only sometimes. I planned to do that, and then saw how well treats work compared to just praise and decided that they're the masters and I'm not and I'd better use every trick at my disposal.
Sigh...at least I'm trying to do intermittent reinforcement rather than treating all the time, except for the crucial toilet training!
Oh, and she's learned to come when called, she's learned her name, and she mostly sits in my chair on a pillow when I tell her to stay. Of course, this could be because she's sleepy, not obedient, but we're going to keep working our training!
And she is THE most loving little dog, who tears around the house with delight (though she's not allowed to do that unsupervised yet), and who saw she'd found a home in a big, gentle manpaw when Gregg came home from Detroit for a day the other day to see me and meet her.








Amy,
My is ashamed of pooing in front of people as he finds it rude. He gets really really embarrassed if he has to, but if I put a towel in front of him so he can't see the people (or the people see him) he does his biz.
Ppen at August 22, 2013 6:38 AM
*My dog
(This isn't the pug btw he loves taking giant shits in front of my sister in laws feet)
Ppen at August 22, 2013 6:40 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/08/thursday-a-long.html#comment-3869888">comment from PpenHilarious, Ppen!
Amy Alkon
at August 22, 2013 6:41 AM
My daughter has a Chihuahua/Dacshund/Jack Russell mix and that dog has been the biggest nightmare with toilet training. Evidently Dacshunds and Jack Russells both are stubborn and take about 2 years to fully toilet train. My daughter got the dog while living at her dad's, and they weren't diligent with training her when she was a puppy so now I'm trying to get her on track. It's really starting to irritate me. Especially since none of my 4 Boxers have ever had potty accidents in the house - not even the blind one who had to learn to go up and down stairs and use a doggy door! Ah the power of crate training. Hopefully, you can get Princess Aida trained quickly and you can move on to settling into a more typical existence.
Side note on having a crate in the house. It is amazing to me how many people think I'm a big meanie because I have a crate and my dog is crated when no one is home. What they don't realize is that is his comfy place. He goes in there to relax - especially if there are a lot of people in the house. Although, he likes it when my grandsons climb in there with him.
sara at August 22, 2013 6:45 AM
A picture a day please!
I was sure it was going to be a crested since the first time I saw Lucy's picture I thought she was a chinese crested.
And seriously, a picture a day would be FABULOUS. We all need the smiles these days.
Annie at August 22, 2013 7:14 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/08/thursday-a-long.html#comment-3869932">comment from saraThanks, Annie -- I was hoping I wouldn't go overboard!
And re: crate training, it is so, so important. It's hard, because I want her to be in bed with me at night, but right now, we just take a 20-minute nap in the afternoon. She is so cute. All puppy energy bounding all over the bed, and then I lie down and go very still and put her under the covers next to me, and smart little thing, she gets it: Quiet time!
Regarding her "crate area," she had a big space -- 41 x 59 -- and I made it smaller and then really small when she kept soiling the whelping pads lining the space. (These are great, by the way, machine-washable, fast-drying in the dryer -- I don't like to throw things out if I can buy reusable things.)
Now, it's the size of her pillow (Gregg's airline pillow that Lucy commandeered), plus a scarf, a blankie from our wonderful breeders that smells like her littermates and the breeder, and a pee pad in a holder (IRIS Small Floor Protection Tray for Pet Training Pads.)
She didn't even go on the pee pad last night. I took her out this morning and she peed right away. I'm using the New Skete Monks' books I did with Lucy: The Art of Raising a Puppy (Revised Edition) and The Art of Raising a Puppy (Revised Edition).
They say to not do the awful thing of rubbing your dog's nose in their mess. It's best to catch them in the act and scoop them up and take them outdoors. But if you don't, they say to bring the dog over to the mess (never call them to you when they've been naughty -- go get them. You don't want them to associate coming to you -- good! -- with getting punished.) Anyway, you pull the dog's collar and have them look at it. What worked for me yesterday, when she peed on my crossword puzzle in progress (!!) was having her smell it and saying "No! No!" firmly, and then taking the pee that was still on there and wiping it all over a patch of grass. I then said, "Go pee here!" and had her smell it. Gently, though. She's a puppy. She doesn't mean to be bad. And each time she did pee outside (ugh, eventually!) I would say "Go pee, yes!" as she was doing it, and "Good Aida, go pee!" and give her a treat RIGHT AWAY and get extremely excited and say to her, "Go pee! Yay! Good doggie!"
After I wiped the pee on the grass, which came after a few times of "Go pee!" and giving her a treat when she eventually did it, she was speed-peeing! And by that, I mean, I took her outside and it took her about a minute to pee. (Also, I should say that these doggies don't drink a lot of water so there weren't as many episodes to correct her.)
An important teaching from the breeders: Dogs have about 10 seconds of memory. Maybe that's just puppies, but probably dogs. So if you praise or scold, you'd better do it fast or forget it.
Next, we need to learn that pooing indoors is also unacceptable. Thankfully, like Lucy, her poops are the size of baby Tootsie rolls and are SOLID! Food the breeders told us to feed her: Blue Buffalo Dry Food for Small Breeds.
And please never put as many links in an email as I did here -- I'm doing it from within my software. You'll go right to spam. One per post, to be safe!
Amy Alkon
at August 22, 2013 7:47 AM
"What worked for me yesterday, when she peed on my crossword puzzle in progress (!!) ..."
It might not be what you think. Maybe she'd figured the puzzle out, and was so frustrated at not having opposable thumbs to hold the fountain pen, that she...
OK, I'll shut up now.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at August 22, 2013 12:05 PM
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the Blue Buffalo foods...both dogs are on it. No messy poops...yay!
sara at August 22, 2013 12:12 PM
Awwwww, the look of a contented sleepyhead who clearly is tired after being "spoiled" in a loving home!
Charles at August 22, 2013 1:17 PM
"Evidently Dacshunds and Jack Russells both are stubborn and take about 2 years to fully toilet train."
I guess I lucked out. I have a 9-month-old Dachshund/Jack Russell mix, my first dog. I got him at age 5 months from some vet students who were fostering him. He was pretty well trained to pee outside with an occasional deviation and not yet trained to defecate outside. He was very amenable to training using praise/treat reward and was trained in only a couple of weeks. I did use crate training as my method. I felt that pee pads would only send the message that it was sometimes okay to go inside and might confuse him. I wanted him to get the message that he should never go inside.
Lizzie at August 22, 2013 4:12 PM
Ohhhh, what a sweetie. She looks like she's using her tail to cover up her boobies. :-)
And Ppen, HA! Holding up a towel as a privacy screen for your pug to poop behind. I'm glad to see I'm not the only human who's been pug-whipped.
Sometimes I really wonder about the food chain, and what's where. Seems to me we're working for them.
I adopted my sweet little old pug lady from a puppy mill rescue when she was four years old. She has basically been potty-trained from the get-go. I feel like the biggest cheat on earth, because she has never done things like poop or pee in the house, bark, chew on things, or dig up the trash, and I never had to train her. She simply never did those things. (In Nicholas Cage voice from 'Raising Arizona') ... I got the best one.
Last night, I think she was having bad dreams. She woke me up yipping and twitching in her sleep, so I scooped my arms around her and gave her a hug. That quieted her down, and when I rolled over with my back to her, she spooned up against the back of my neck and rested her fuzzy little chin on top of my head. That's love, man. There's not a single dark corner of my frosty, cold heart that she hasn't shined her light on.
I've been reading those 'Earth's Children' books by Jean Auel, where the main character's spirit totem is a cave lion. My spirit totem is my pug. My boyfriend thinks it's hilarious and teases me about it all the time, how much alike Holly and I are.
Pirate Jo at August 22, 2013 4:35 PM
Lizzie...I'm sending my daughter's dog to you!
My brother and his wife raise doxies and the females have always taken much longer to train than the males. My neighbor has a Jack Russell, also a female and he said it took 2 full years to train her. Maybe it's a male/female thing? I will stick to my big dogs!
sara at August 22, 2013 4:36 PM
Speaking of pugs, I wanted to get a pug or a Boston terrier. I love that "bug-eyed" appearance. But my dog was left at a university vet hospital because his owners couldn't afford the cost of having the foreign object obstructing him removed, and the vet students who had been fostering him since his hospital stay were about to graduate and scatter. He needed a home.
He's a sweetie, but bursting with energy and still has a propensity to swallow inedible objects. I would dial down the energy a couple of notches if I could. I was looking for a dog to lean a little more to the couch potato end of the spectrum than this one; he'd rather run, wrestle with other dogs, burrow in the grass, and play fetch.
Lizzie at August 22, 2013 5:55 PM
Amy, M&Ms played a major role in my mother's toilet training method for small humans, and her kids have turned out okay. If treats work, then I say treat away! Both she and you will be happier when she's trained. She's a precious little creature -- congratulations!
marion at August 22, 2013 8:42 PM
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