What's With The Kind Of Person Who Writes This Expecting An Answer?
I'm an advice columnist and will typically answer letters on love, dating, sex, and relationships even if they won't make my column. I do this for free, and people who have a little respect for that (or at least a little common sense) do their best to be coherent. Not this guy. Got this email last night:
So I saw your style of writing and like it. I can't say I'd typically write in this nature but what the fuck, so I'm this guy that tried to live the American dream to find it's not all that. After many ok years I separated our family. I found the soon to be ex hmm non supportive to the understood mechanics of our marriage. 4 kids later... All adopted with biological influences not understood at the acquisition it's clear some ppl can bite off more than can chew. Hmm feeling in Colorado the potential sting of dissolution of marriage, translating to high alimony I'm chilling by not jumping too fast. Hmm got serious differences like naturally high testosterone vs here equally charged estrogen, hmm and her clinging to faith that did nothing tangible but propagate wasted self realization I'm realizing how messed up I am. Moslow's law of hierarchy makes more emotional sense at this 5 seconds. That is I feel like I am in complete survival mode. The kids are all messed up emotionally not able to take a serious effort to stand on their own feet any thing of importance. And the point of my message I have some basic beliefs a guy can sincerely validate a girl and vice versa and I think I want that. And all the while the kids flounder in the lost American dream influenced by our modern culture. My job is good and I'm thinking wtf am I doing writing this, but I seemed to have zero problem writing lots of potential women on match.com or POF with out great results. So why not get shredded by an expert. Never was racist or chauvinist but still trying to figure out does all this rat race make sense. Again just surviving barely but did like your direct writing style.Sent from my iPad2
Hint: If your email to me reads at all like the nonsense paragraphs they throw together to mock up a brochure, there's something wrong.
It gets better. The guy writes back. Three times:
First -- On Sep 23, 2013 9:09 PM, DELETED wrote:
Your ego has the best of you... Clearly
Second -- On Sep 23, 2013 9:13 PM, DELETED wrote:
And there really was no question. I am getting a pulse on people's ability to be human... Clearly you don't appear to be, with you overrated ego at least in your mind. No reply is needed. Sincerely
And third:
And as my old pappy used to say 'go pound sand in your ass' it did not make sense at the time, but I think it's fitting for the moment.
All of this in reply to this response I sent him initially. I could have just ignored his email, but that seems unkind. Also, I'm amazed at the entitlement (or level of drunkenness) of a person who writes an incoherent piles of words like that above to a total stranger in hopes of getting free advice.
My initial response to him:
Sorry, but you need to write clearly and in complete words and sentences (that actually make sense) for me to answer your question. We're not 12-year-old BFFs texting each other. I do this for free, answering questions whether or not they'll make my column, simply to be nice. People who write at least need to be respectful enough of that to make their questions comprehensible.
And finally, my response to his three emails:
Wow.You send a total stranger an incoherent message, expecting them to muddle through it and give you advice, free of charge, and then use the fact that they ask you to respect their time by writing clearly to deem them lacking in humanity?
Okay, here's the advice: 1. Fix whatever causes you to have such a sense of entitlement before you try to date. 2. Don't make assumptions about people based on little information. 3. Don't be such an asshole.
Especially number three.








He's on drugs. Don't know what kind, but it's pretty obvious from the flow of his writing.
Matt at September 23, 2013 11:11 PM
I've never seen a verbal tic (hmmm) in writing before.
I can't believe I read the whole thing. Your answer seems to apply to his unexpressable issues, though!
bmused at September 24, 2013 1:24 AM
It kind of brings to mind J.D. Salinger's "The Catcher in the Rye," the way it just seems to move from thought to thought without anything in the way of segue.
The difference, of course, as overrated as "Catcher" is, is that at least Salinger's work is comprehensible.
"...with you overrated ego at least in your mind."
As good a specimen as any when it comes to trying to make sense of this drivel. Is this to suggest that ego is overrated? More likely he's suggesting that Amy's ego is "overinflated."
"...at least in your mind." Um, I thought that a person's ego existed in one's own mind. That's the point. It's one's self-perception. Or is he suggesting that Amy's ego is "overinflated" in her own mind?
That's kind of good news. It means that Amy thinks that she thinks too highly of herself, but no one else does. I suppose that's modesty.
And just think! All this incoherence in one phrase, not even a complete sentence. Imagine how much I'd have to write if I tried to make sense of the whole letter.
Patrick at September 24, 2013 1:26 AM
Yep, drugs. Best translation I can muster:
Why are women are POF and Match not responding to me? I write them all the time and haven't gotten good results, so I figured I'd ask an expert. I have a good job, and I just want a mutually validating relationship.
Here is a bunch of horrifying background information about me and my situation, like the fact that I apparently "separated" my family because I decided that in adopting four children I had bitten off more than I could chew, and now said children are emotionally messed up and unable to stand on their own. They flounder in the American Dream, which I am above, because drugs have opened my miiiiiiiinnnnnnnddd, man.
Also, testosterone. I am super manly.
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You did answer the part that he said was his point. He's not getting good results on the dating websites for the same reason you stated in your response, because he has no idea how to communicate with strangers over the internet. And probably also the whole horrible backstory about leaving his wife and children. But mostly, sadly, the communication thing.
Jenny Had A Chance at September 24, 2013 2:25 AM
Well, the LW is from Colorado. Probably those new marijuana laws.
Isab at September 24, 2013 5:26 AM
Im guessing he is not a native english speaker
Nicolek at September 24, 2013 5:52 AM
If I saw something like that in my inbox, I'd be saying "what the fuck?" too.
Flynne at September 24, 2013 6:01 AM
Somewhat off topic; but, oh my god:
"3. Don't be such an asshole."
That's such great advice for half of mankind. The other half of mankind should take the advice: "don't put up with assholes"
Charles at September 24, 2013 6:07 AM
"Im guessing he is not a native english speaker..."
I think he is, because his (so-called) writing is so ideomatic. But if he's not, then he must be a lousy writer in his native language too. He comes across to me as someone who thinks he's so important that he shouldn't be bothered to write clearly; it's the job of the plebes to decipher it.
Cousin Dave at September 24, 2013 6:36 AM
I couldn't even read the whole thing, it was giving me a headache.
Drugs, or mentally ill.
Mareseatoatanddoeseatoatsandlittllambseativy much?
WTF?!?!
wtf at September 24, 2013 6:37 AM
I used to see stuff like this stapled on telephone poles. Now I know where that guy went.
Pricklypear at September 24, 2013 8:26 AM
As soon as I saw "4 kids later," I thought, "Aha! He could have shortened this and eliminated the need for a lot of nonexistent paragraph breaks if he had just said, 'I've screwed up my life and those of of others. What do I do now?'"
Pirate Jo at September 24, 2013 8:26 AM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2013/09/whats-with-the-1.html#comment-3933876">comment from Pirate JoHah, Prickly.
And Pirate Jo, perfectly done.
Amy Alkon
at September 24, 2013 8:38 AM
Pirate Jo for the win! Amy, surely there is a way to use this type of thing to your advantage. Maybe your next book should a compilation of all of the weirdest emails you have received. Some of this stuff is laugh out loud funny.
Sheep mommy at September 24, 2013 9:53 AM
I don't know how to categorize this guy's writing style. I think he's trying for stream of consciousness, but even James Joyce would cringe at reading this rambling and incoherent word vomit. "It isn't writing at all - it's typing"
Conan the Grammarian at September 24, 2013 11:53 AM
Miss Alkon, Sheep Mommy and Conan have a great idea. An occaisonal "Too Weird for James Joyce/Too Convoluted for Faulkner" post might be a lot of fun to read!
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at September 24, 2013 12:35 PM
Drugs: It does a mind over to well-done. ;-)
The guy is not anybody I'd ever really want to know other than to point at and telling the stormtroopers "That is the noid you are looking for."
Jim P. at September 24, 2013 1:30 PM
wtf: "Drugs, or mentally ill."
Could be either one, but I'm leaning toward mental illness. I hear people talk like that every day at work. To get an idea what they sound like read that without pause at a rapid rate, with pressure, exaggerated intonation and widely varying emotion; throw in occasional laughter, sobbing or irritability.
I feel so sorry for them. I would rather have lung cancer than have schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.
Maybe the sender of the email is just an arrogant, presumptuous asshole who doesn't think your time is worth the trouble it takes to write coherently. But that content is pretty disorganized, and if speech reflects thinking I'm guessing the writer has a serious mental illness and that's the best he could do.
Ken R at September 24, 2013 5:49 PM
So I saw your style of writing and like it. I can't say I'd typically write in this nature but what the fuck . . . blah, blah, blah, messed up stuff . . . Never was racist or chauvinist but still trying to figure out does all this rat race make sense. Again just surviving barely but did like your direct writing style.
Here's what my reply would have been:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvGJvzwKqg0
mpetrie98 at September 26, 2013 7:11 AM
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