Easy question, the Oscar statue is ugly as hell anyway. I'll take the blowjob. That would make one hell of an acceptance speech!

Had none of those women ever watched "Braveheart"? Men in kilts is hawt! Also, "300"? nearly naked men in short kilts and long capes? Also hot! Okay so those 2 weren't Oscar winners, so what? (Actually, didn't "Braveheart" win Best Director, or something?) If it weren't so laughable, I'd be bothered by these women who are afraid of their own sexuality. Because that's what's going on here, you know.

And (some) men will always be assholes about women's sexuality because they're afraid of it too!

But Flynne, lets not forget that in "Braveheart" and "300," those men were being slaughtered to avenge the death of one woman in "Braveheart," and protect the women of Sparta in "300."
Desiring a woman who has made millions of dollars by being desirable? Violence against women, objectifying, hateful male gazing objectifying scumbags.
Men slaughtered?
Entertainment.

BTW, I'm not attacking you Flynne. I agree with your post.

I suppose so Wolfman, but still...men objectifying women is nothing new and the women who are offended by these boys are idiots - women have so much power over men, and most don't even know it/are afraid to use it. Those of us who use it judiciously are few and far between, and the men who abuse it are far more than those men who are kind about it. I dunno. Then you have the women who use their power mercilessly and ruin things for those of us who don't. It's one o' them-thar conundrums, right?

And the other thing, too, is the "Men slaughtered? Entertainment." thing is enjoyed by more men than women anyway!

I knew that Wolfman, that's why I answered you. I grew up with 3 brothers. Good looking boys. A lot of the girls I knew growing up, I found out, were just wanting to hang with me to get close to them. So I became jaded with the whole "feminist" agenda at a young age because I knew a lot of it was bullshit. I was a tomboy but when I dressed up "like a girl" apparently I was pretty hot myself. Just sayin'. But I didn't use that the way most girls I knew did. My bullshit detector was finely honed at a young age, mostly because I could see through the bullshit about men being "evil". And I say this as having been a victim of sexual assault. I don't hate men in general, I hate the one guy who attacked me. Who himself was attacked by several friends of brothers for his deed.

Friend of my brothers, I meant. In any case, I find it offensive that women find it offensive when men are just being me...well, boys. They always have been, they always will be. It's just life. If their skin is that thin, maybe they should just stay home and not go to parties where they might hear something that they don't like!

Someone I never heard of said bad things about people I don't know or care about. I avoid people like that so I don't even need to pretend to care.

Flynne said - And the other thing, too, is the "Men slaughtered? Entertainment." thing is enjoyed by more men than women anyway!

No doubt true Flynne. I started down that rabbit hole but backed off because I hadn't had my second cup of coffee.
I am largely with Amy on this (if I understand her position correctly). To paint in exceptionally broad strokes here, whatever the underlying cause, men are the hunter gatherers, women rule the roost. Men do the protecting, women are the hearth and home worth protecting. Degrees and exceptions, yes. But ultimately, that hard wiring makes men willing to rush headlong into a desperate, doomed battle to protect their women, and women to swoon over men who are willing to do that. It has nothing to do with dominance and submission or better than / not as good as, everything to do with biological imperative and the complimentary nature of the genders.
Women want the love of a man they respect, men the respect of the woman they love.
I only get hot about that when dealing with the gender is a social construct/patriarchy/ Dem Menzes Be Holding Us Down crowd when they constantly highlight the ways in which this dichotomy 'disadvantages" women while not only refusing to mention, but vehemently deny that it in any way disadvantages men. Being sexually objectified by some stranger? Okay. Unpleasant for those too weak minded to say "fuck you" and move one with their lives. Even if you were compensated to the tune of millions to allow yourself to be objectified. To die in the mud with your intestines hanging out for nothing at all, or pennies on the dollar by comparison? Probably something there in the way of tangible consequences that deserves consideration.
Again, perhaps that is how it should be. I might even go further and say that is how it is, always has been and always will be - Rhonda Rousey is incredible. So is her mother. They are, and will always be, exceptions.
Just tire of hearing only one side told. i am sorry those wymyns felt objectified. Or something. Want to know how objectification feels? Now, I'm talking to them, not you, Flynne - a battlefield. That is to be objectified. To be nothing more than an object, and not even an animal. Less than a dog, less than a rat. An object to be destroyed, and whose only function is to destroy other objects.
We as a society celebrate the one form of objectification (yes, as a society we do - both women and men), but as a society (yes, both women and...men) condemn the other as dehumanizing?

Some random guy said something sexual about a woman. And Kathleen Miles is upset? I think she needs to go back to the convent.

Charles, so well-put!

Yes, some men are dumb and boring, and there are plenty of tedious women around, too. For every dull, predictable guy groaning like a 14-year-old over Charlize Theron's tits, there's a batty woman blathering on about car seats.

This is why I don't go to parties.

Agreed, Wolfman. And I agree with Charles, too!

Good point PJ! (But I still like going to some parties!)

I would be disgusted by the exchange of locker-room talk at a fancy event honoring artistic achievement. (Men look like buffoons when they do the the orgasmic MOAN of longing. I find it pathetic and embarrassing, even if I am the trigger.)

But TERRIFIED? Of what?

Hey, guys, which actress would you have chosen from the first three rows?

Give the offender a gentle pat on the head or hand, smile sadly and say "You try so hard..."

Fuck with their heads. It's fun! I've also had success with "What are you now? Ten?"

So, someone from left leaning feminist friendly Hollywood may be a bit if a perv? Next thing you know, we'll find out left leaning feminist friendly politicians like Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy are womanizers.

I burst out laughing at "sat quietly in terror." I am very quiet but would have no problem giving them a dirty look or defending Pink's appearance or chatting with someone else about how idiotic these guys are, or whatever, depending on the exact situation. What I wouldn't do is sit in terror (and shouldn't we reserve that word for much worse acts?). There are some men who have no filter and make dumb, sexist comments. It's puzzling to me that someone finds this noteworthy or scary.

"Both parties were full of hip (albeit low-level) entertainment industry folk"

Oh, the humanity! Oh, the disdain.

Oh, and also at the party was one pearl clutching "Associate Editor" from puffington post... um, I guess that means she's one of the one's who get's paid? From her bio: She earned her BA from UC Berkeley, where she studied Political Economy of Non-Industrialized Studies.

Basically if she had been invited to a party with "High Level Entertainment Industry Folk" Weeeeellll, now, things would been different. Would she have dropped pantsu for a good looking rich guy, who said those very same things? Betcha.

At it's root, this whole diatribe is about not making the right scene. Oh, sure, there is some kind of dull outrage at a sexist industry, overflowing at a drunk party.
Drunk guy on couch moaning over who he would do, is trying to send out the badboy signal, indicating preference for women he has no possible chance with, no doubt hoping there was one closer that he MIGHT have a chance with.

I'd be curious to find out who went home with whom, at that party. But ultimately, I'm sure our intrepid reporter was on deadline, and knew what she was going to write before getting there...

and found a nice story to fill out all the details.

There are so many more important things to write, but this is clickbait, fo-sho

Kathleen Miles: "We sat quietly in terror, hands folded over our laps, staring at the screen."

Charles: "Some random guy said something sexual about a woman. And Kathleen Miles is upset? I think she needs to go back to the convent."

She needs have more frequent appointments with her therapist. She's not emotionally stable enough to be a nun.

"I wonder if she's able to buy her panties pre-bunched."

I think you just hatched the novelty gift of the year. And you could sell them through your Amazon link. Hopefully the profit will more than offset your healthcare premium increase.

"We sat quietly in terror"

Terror?

No.

Terrified at an awards show of some guys who never mentally left junior high school? Come on.

Turning around and sweetly saying, "Excuse me, would you mind having your conversation outside? It's hard for us to hear the speakers" lets people like this know they're not being funny, they're just being pests.

"I wonder if she's able to buy her panties pre-bunched."

I see a new product launch, "Feminist Brand Panties - pre bunched for your indignation." Sold in bunches.

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For every dull, predictable guy groaning like a 14-year-old over Charlize Theron's tits, there's a batty woman blathering on about car seats.

Or a batty woman pushing past the quiet nice guy with a good job who owns his own house and throwing herself at a jobless, uneducated thug who will mooch off her, cheat on her, and leave her three months pregnant ... again. And she'll tell her friends that men are pigs.

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"We sat quietly in terror"

Terror? At a party?

'cause one of the frat boys would have jumped her right there in the middle of the party if she'd said "boo."

Someone needs to take vacation in Syria, Mogadishu, or Crimea to understand what "terror" really is.