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"... the couple watched in fear and terror as the unknown intruder entered their partially-open garage and headed toward the entrance of their kitchen."
"If Markus Kaarma goes on trial for deliberate homicide in the shooting death of foreign-exchange student Diren Dede ..."
Guess they should have had milk and cookies out and hoped that the intruder did not want more than that (strudle?).
Bob in Texas
at May 7, 2014 12:58 PM
@"marijuana was found in the kitchen and that a neighbor told police that Kaarma's wife said he smoked marijuana in the garage"
So what, if you've had a few puffs of weed that means you no longer have a right to defend your life or your family's lives from intruders? Deranged.
Lobster
at May 7, 2014 1:43 PM
Having read the whole story, Markus Kaarma should be hailed as a hero.
Lobster
at May 7, 2014 1:51 PM
The undertones in the prosecutor's arguments are extremely sinister: Apparently now, even putting motion sensors in your home is considered suspicious and 'setting a trap' (even if you've been burgled multiple times in the past few weeks). Effectively they are saying you do not have a right to self-defense ... that's an important building block of a fascist system, when it's illegal to take care of your own safety, you are entirely beholden to the ruling political elite. I mean wtf, if you've had several burglaries, then installing motion sensors is an obviously valid thing to do. And the exchange student was obviously guilty, nobody seems to care about this point - he was robbing someone's home.
Apparently being 93 years old is not going to keep her from getting blown away by the cops.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers
at May 7, 2014 10:16 PM
"Apparently now, even putting motion sensors in your home is considered suspicious and 'setting a trap' (even if you've been burgled multiple times in the past few weeks). "
I don't know of any place in the U.S. where man-traps are legal. Having said that, I recall a piece of jury nullification from the early 1980s in Miami. A store owner (don't recall what kind of store) was burgularized repeatedly by someone who entered the store via an air duct that led to the roof. Eventually the owner got so frustrated that he rigged an electrified screen in the air duct. Sure enough, someone tried to get in that way, came into contact with the screen, and was electrocuted. The store owner was charged with premeditated murder and setting a man trap. The defense argued that the police had been derelict in their duty (they presented evidence that the police had done nothing to investigate the break-ins) and that the owner had been left with no other means to defend his property. The jury agreed and found the owner not guilty.
Cousin Dave
at May 8, 2014 7:41 AM
I like Jim P's idea! :)
Gog, can you believe it?? Even if it was true, that kinda shite is beneath either party (or should be) to use to pander to its constituents.
And what's wrong with motion sensors?? We have 'em. True, the lights go on when a freakin moth gets too close sometimes, but better that the light goes on and maybe scares away some asshat intent on robbing me than not. I don't want to shoot anyone, but break into my house and you'll be staring down the barrel of my aught-six.
Why am I not surprised:
http://gopthedailydose.com/2014/02/15/admiral-claims-obama-conspired-with-americas-enemies-to-stage-a-phony-scandal-to-kidnap-chris-stevens/
Thoroughly disgusting.
Flynne at May 7, 2014 7:16 AM
Flynne, that IS disgusting!
I've never seen such a thinly-veiled piece of conspiracy bait!
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at May 7, 2014 12:40 PM
http://powernationtv.com/post/sober-woman-arrested-with-dui-after-sheriffs-deputy-crashes-into-her
BunnyGirl at May 7, 2014 12:51 PM
"... the couple watched in fear and terror as the unknown intruder entered their partially-open garage and headed toward the entrance of their kitchen."
"If Markus Kaarma goes on trial for deliberate homicide in the shooting death of foreign-exchange student Diren Dede ..."
http://www.kxlh.com/news/possible-defense-detailed-in-shooting-death-of-german-student-in-missoula/
Guess they should have had milk and cookies out and hoped that the intruder did not want more than that (strudle?).
Bob in Texas at May 7, 2014 12:58 PM
@"marijuana was found in the kitchen and that a neighbor told police that Kaarma's wife said he smoked marijuana in the garage"
So what, if you've had a few puffs of weed that means you no longer have a right to defend your life or your family's lives from intruders? Deranged.
Lobster at May 7, 2014 1:43 PM
Having read the whole story, Markus Kaarma should be hailed as a hero.
Lobster at May 7, 2014 1:51 PM
The undertones in the prosecutor's arguments are extremely sinister: Apparently now, even putting motion sensors in your home is considered suspicious and 'setting a trap' (even if you've been burgled multiple times in the past few weeks). Effectively they are saying you do not have a right to self-defense ... that's an important building block of a fascist system, when it's illegal to take care of your own safety, you are entirely beholden to the ruling political elite. I mean wtf, if you've had several burglaries, then installing motion sensors is an obviously valid thing to do. And the exchange student was obviously guilty, nobody seems to care about this point - he was robbing someone's home.
Lobster at May 7, 2014 1:56 PM
The perfect Mother's day idea.
Jim P. at May 7, 2014 5:42 PM
If you're in Texas, tell Mom not to wave the pistol around.
Apparently being 93 years old is not going to keep her from getting blown away by the cops.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at May 7, 2014 10:16 PM
"Apparently now, even putting motion sensors in your home is considered suspicious and 'setting a trap' (even if you've been burgled multiple times in the past few weeks). "
I don't know of any place in the U.S. where man-traps are legal. Having said that, I recall a piece of jury nullification from the early 1980s in Miami. A store owner (don't recall what kind of store) was burgularized repeatedly by someone who entered the store via an air duct that led to the roof. Eventually the owner got so frustrated that he rigged an electrified screen in the air duct. Sure enough, someone tried to get in that way, came into contact with the screen, and was electrocuted. The store owner was charged with premeditated murder and setting a man trap. The defense argued that the police had been derelict in their duty (they presented evidence that the police had done nothing to investigate the break-ins) and that the owner had been left with no other means to defend his property. The jury agreed and found the owner not guilty.
Cousin Dave at May 8, 2014 7:41 AM
I like Jim P's idea! :)
Gog, can you believe it?? Even if it was true, that kinda shite is beneath either party (or should be) to use to pander to its constituents.
And what's wrong with motion sensors?? We have 'em. True, the lights go on when a freakin moth gets too close sometimes, but better that the light goes on and maybe scares away some asshat intent on robbing me than not. I don't want to shoot anyone, but break into my house and you'll be staring down the barrel of my aught-six.
Flynne at May 8, 2014 12:28 PM
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