A Politically Incorrect Look At Who Caused The Ferguson Riots. (Yes, LBJ)
David Malone writes at Classical Liberal Musings:
I've tried to come up with a philosophical and psychological reason why a large group, most of whom are members of the same community, would choose to desecrate that community in response to what they perceive is an injustice against one of their own....The vast majority of these feral youths could care less about justice for Michael Brown, or for that matter, for Michael Brown himself or his grieving family. It is my inclination to believe that these young men (and women) are taking advantage of a terrible situation. They have seen a way to exact revenge on the vile system that Al Sharpton and his ilk have been telling them about. But what they are too ignorant to understand, is that men like Sharpton and many before him are the ones culpable for their plight. They don't believe it possible for blacks and whites to ever coexist in the same country. That slavery never truly ended and the country is still filled with white taskmasters, keeping them forever circumscribed in their impoverished state.
This all began in 1964. Lyndon Johnson, who himself was a racist of the first order, declared war on poverty, and as with any war, it was to be funded with taxpayers money.
...So to expound on Woodrow Wilson's Progressivism and FDR's Second Bill of Rights, and created what he called the Great Society. The wildly utopian expectations (and experimental recklessness in social programs) brought modern liberalism into a crisis and dramatically expanded the administrative state, with all its cost and regulatory reach.
The programs greatly disincentivized work and incentivized slothfulness. But the worst consequences were from the Aid To Families With Dependent Children program. This program began to dismantle the two parent family. In the fifties, although blacks were still struggling for equal opportunities and were on the low-end of the economic ladder, the black family was for the most part strong and stable. Two parent families were the rule, not the exception. They attended church together, had strong moral values, and did not comprise a majority of the prison population. Compare that to the present state of the black community after 50 years of Liberal Socialism. Our prisons are disproportionately black, unwed mothers and single parent families are the rule, black youths without a strong male role model other than rap stars and sports figures, roam the streets and are drawn into a culture of drugs and crime.
Today, about 72%, almost three-fourths, of black children are born out-of-wedlock, and I believe the primary reason stems from the programs initiated from Johnson's "Great Society." And these ills have been expounded on greatly since then.
So that is the rather long answer to the question of the mentality of those burning and looting private businesses and other private property in their own neighborhoods. These people are restless from the monotony that comes from having no daily purpose. Some of these kids and young adults are 3rd or 4th generation welfare recipients who are firmly ensconced in the system the Liberals so cleverly devised. They have no positive male role models. Sadly, they are victims of social experiments that turned out badly. And you can bet that the left-wing, race-baiting Sharpton's of the country want to keep them that way.
via @Mark_J_Perry
But wait. To be fair, you have to count the Great Society's great success. The money was not wasted. It bought countless votes and countless elections for countless Democrat politicians for half a century. No small accomplishment! LBJ and Democrat politicians were and are not stupid. They know their main job is to get re-elected. Succeed they did! To this day! So, please, always tell both sides of every story. Thank you.
Jim Simon at December 27, 2014 12:45 PM
And then the left fetishized the ghetto culture they had helped create. It's a cultural sickness.
Canvasback at December 27, 2014 4:58 PM
Your post omits the redlining that created the racially segregated Ferguson. Glad I could help clarify that.
Manthisissomedumbassshit at December 27, 2014 10:35 PM
So, to cure "redlining", we destroy the black family?
Jim Simon at December 28, 2014 7:31 AM
Your post omits the redlining that created the racially segregated Ferguson. Glad I could help clarify that.
Posted by: Manthisissomedumbassshit at December 27, 2014 10:35 PM
Red lining came way after the ghettos, and the bad neighborhoods.
It is a perfectly legitimate real estate investment tool to keep investors in mortgages from losing their money on bad loans, and it only affected a very small part of the real estate market, as it did not apply to VA or FHA loans, as those are guaranteed by the government.
Lenders got around this by bundling bad, and good loans into derivatives in order to spread the risk when red lining was banned.
These bad loans and a lot of creative financing fraud to qualify people for homes who didn't have the means to buy one, eventually collapsed the housing market.
And again, the people who got screwed were the middle class of all races and ethnicities.
Isab at December 28, 2014 10:45 AM
Glad to know a lawyer supports the overtly racist policy that created segregated communities by prohibiting the sale of real estate in some parts of cities to black people. Legitimate. FFS.
Idontthjnkso at December 28, 2014 11:17 AM
Glad to know a lawyer supports the overtly racist policy that created segregated communities by prohibiting the sale of real estate in some parts of cities to black people. Legitimate. FFS.
Posted by: Idontthjnkso at December 28, 2014 11:17 AM
Glad to know, I can spot your politically correct idiocy, no matter what name you post under.
Isab at December 28, 2014 11:25 AM
"by prohibiting the sale of real estate in some parts of cities to black people"
You don't understand red lining at all do you? Lenders not lending, is not the same as *prohibiting the sale* of something.
Isab at December 28, 2014 12:06 PM
Malone said:
"Lyndon Johnson, who himself was a racist of the first order"
Can someone explain that, please?
I seem to remember that regardless of what LBJ's private beliefs were compared to JFK's, he was more willing to be outspoken against racists. Don't actions count more than beliefs?
Here's his March 15, 1965 speech:
http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/johnson.htm
It's also on Youtube, if anyone wants to see it there.
lenona at December 28, 2014 1:12 PM
"Can someone explain that, please?
I seem to remember that regardless of what LBJ's private beliefs were compared to JFK's, he was more willing to be outspoken against racists. Don't actions count more than beliefs?"
Which actions are those?
Isab at December 28, 2014 1:59 PM
"by prohibiting the sale of real estate in some parts of cities to black people"
Solution: Destroy the black family.
Jim Simon at December 28, 2014 5:08 PM
Which actions are those?
Destroying black families.
Jim Simon at December 28, 2014 5:10 PM
Learn a little about the policies that shaped this country before you open your yap. Ferguson was a product of both racist rules regarding sales of properties, starting in the early 20th century; it also was a product of racist practices in lending on properties. Guess you're cool only cool with racial discrimination in lending? OK then. You're still a gaping asshole.
idgaf at December 28, 2014 8:43 PM
"Ferguson was a product of both racist rules regarding sales of properties, starting in the early 20th century; it also was a product of racist practices in lending on properties."
In 1990 Ferguson Mo was 75 percent white, and only 25 percent black. I guess those racist sales tactics, and racist lending practices didn't do a very good job of keeping minorities out because by 2010 it was 63 percent black.
Isab at December 28, 2014 9:08 PM
OK, just so we're clear, you do favor racist lending practices.
Ferguson was a place where black people moved to escape the ghettos created by those racist covenants and lending practices; once they moved there -- despite the early black families arriving being middle class and educated -- the white people fled, decimating property values. Then poor people, most of them black, moved there in increasing numbers. This happened all over the urban US; this should not be news any reasonably educated American.
idgaf at December 28, 2014 9:43 PM
"OK, just so we're clear, you do favor racist lending practices."
What I favor is freedom. And part of that freedom, is people who have money get to chose who they are going to lend it to, the government doesn't get to make those choices for them.
Ghettos form though the creation of large developments of section eight housing, part of the subsidized rental market.
Home ownership,and the race of those owning homes has almost nothing to do with it. .
A lot of minorities were financially destroyed by the collapse of the housing market,
The anti redlining and the fraudulent loans it allowed was worse than the original problem.
Isab at December 29, 2014 6:54 AM
Which actions are those?
Posted by: Isab at December 28, 2014 1:59 PM
Well, the speech I linked to, for one?
Did JFK ever make such a powerful speech in the same vein?
lenona at December 29, 2014 8:39 AM
Well, the speech I linked to, for one?
Did JFK ever make such a powerful speech in the same vein?
Posted by: lenona at December 29, 2014 8:39 AM
Lenona, do you think giving a speech about something, and saying all the *right* things* is the same as *doing something*?
Need I remind you, that this is how Obama got elected?
Isab at December 29, 2014 7:06 PM
Lenona, do you think giving a speech about something, and saying all the *right* things* is the same as *doing something*?
Need I remind you, that this is how Obama got elected?
Posted by: Isab at December 29, 2014 7:06 PM
Depends on WHAT you're saying.
OK, so LBJ may have already decided he wasn't going to run in 1968, which was three years away. But...maybe not. In that case, he stuck his neck out a bit - especially for an old white Texan. That's hardly the same as trying to please everyone.
By contrast, how much did Eisenhower do?
More on LBJ's civil rights record, if you like:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Lyndon_Johnson_Civil_Rights.htm
Some of it may surprise you.
lenona at December 31, 2014 10:37 AM
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