Fun With Social Justice Warriors!
Forget the "anarchist" label at the top at the link. You'll recognize the thinking here all too well. From Reddit, posted at InfoShop:
5) "Calling people out for using the wrong language, for example saying 'biological female' instead of 'person assigned female at birth', is harmful and makes no sense because not everyone has access to the same information, they'll never learn if they're excluded, and the 'correct' languages changes every couple of years anyway. People don't want to be associated with us because they see how punishing we are to each other and it turns them off."6) "People use 'unsafe' when they mean 'uncomfortable' way too often and it diminishes the meaning of the word 'unsafe' to the point where it's not very meaningful anymore."
7) "People's obsession with identity politics means the only people who can say stuff like this out loud have to be able to identify themselves as multiply marginalized, and then everyone immediately agrees about how problematic it all is."
...10) "We've completely failed to build frameworks for accountability and transformative justice, and instead rely on callouts and social exclusion that replicate the prison system without the benefit of having trials."
Just call me SJW-phobic.








Can we just call this "butthurt mumbo jumbo" and move on? My head hurts.
Daghain at August 17, 2015 10:15 PM
Perfect, Daghain.
Amy Alkon at August 17, 2015 10:23 PM
Can someone please explain to me what in the name of Zeus does "multiply marginalized" mean out here in the real world?
And "transformative justice" ???
Daghain has nailed this.
DrCos at August 18, 2015 3:59 AM
Let's have some fun with this. When this stuff is thrown at you do not argue. Simply ...
"So you are saying that "________" takes the place of "______"?".
"How is this (phrase) more correct or accurate?"
"What does that (phrase) actually mean that (normal phrase) does not?".
"So is this new wording used in academic circles because I have not heard it in conversation before."
"Please don't leave I really want to understand."
Stop the conversation at every stupid phrase and start over because you really want to understand.
Bob in Texas at August 18, 2015 5:43 AM
You used the wrong word in the headline. Try "Worriers" instead. Yer welcome.
I R A Darth Aggie at August 18, 2015 6:10 AM
I can't tell who has more of too much time on their hands. Is it those who get offended by the original phrases, or those who sit around inventing these ridiculous alternative phrases.
Perhaps they both have equal amounts of too much time on their hands.
I think it's supposed to refer to those who belong in more than one category. For instance, a short person might be marginalized due to being short. A fat person might be marginalized due to be being fat. And an ugly person might be marginalized due to being ugly.
However, a short, fat, ugly person is marginalized for three reasons, hence multiply marginalized.
My question is, are such people vertically-challenged, gravitationally-challenged, and cosmetically-challenged, or can we expedite the process and just refer to them as vertically-, gravitationally-, and cosmetically-challenged?
Or is the whole -challenged thing now outdated?
And they're people of little height, people of size and people of low aesthetics now?
If someone doesn't explain this to me, I'm not going to get to sleep tonight.
Patrick at August 18, 2015 6:19 AM
I R A Darth Aggie: Try "Worriers" instead. Yer welcome.
I don't know. Parents are worriers, and we don't usually fault them for that.
"Advanced neurotics" comes to mind.
Patrick at August 18, 2015 6:22 AM
The reason the language thing mystifies us non-SJWs so much is that we associate conventional meanings to the words. The SJWs don't. To them, the language and what things are called is basically a secret handshake; it's how tribe members identify each other and establish their tribal bona fides. It's also a way of contesting status within the tribe; someone who comes up with new language that is judged to be more "sensitive" or whatever gains status, and the person who continues to use the old language because they are out of the loop loses status. Also, the language has to change periodically because, like all secret handshakes, eventually people outside the tribe start to figure it out.
In any personality cult like the SJWs, periodically there must be purges to satisfy the paranoia and power lust of the leadership contenders. Language must be redefined; philosophies must be reversed, and people must be disappeared. These constant shifts in the SJW community are milder versions of Stalinist purges. In a way, it's kind of fascinating to watch (from a safe distance) because it's so primitive. It's a look back into how humans organized themselves before any concepts of nation or citizenship existed. It's a lot like reading Lord of the Flies.
Cousin Dave at August 18, 2015 7:01 AM
Advanced neurotics works just fine.
I think I know what people like that did back in ye olden days: they were the professional criers who would be employed by funeral parlors to attend funerals for those without family.
That's out of style, now, and they have this interweb thingie and plenty of spare time with which to torment us all.
I R A Darth Aggie at August 18, 2015 7:03 AM
And this:
If you have to ask, you've failed "Advanced Neurotics" (see I R A Darth Ag comment just above)
Amy Alkon at August 18, 2015 8:04 AM
It is interesting that the author submitted that article "anonymously."
I guess he* didn't want to be called out for writing something politically incorrect.
*Can I say "he" or do I have to use something like s/he/it?
charles at August 18, 2015 8:15 AM
"multiply marginalized" - Life sucks. It just sucks more for some people.
"transformative justice" - Bigotry. The punishment of people for unfavored attributes. I.e. skin color, income, political party, ...
Ben at August 18, 2015 8:33 AM
Loved the picture accompanying the article. I can only imagine if the Titanic sank today how many passengers would drown trying to get a selfie.
My only quibble with the article is that the author does not seem to understand anarchism as a political movement. He seems to equate it with big government control (socialism, communism, etc.) instead of abolishing the government entirely (i.e., the political fringe beyond libertarianism). Of course, the political spectrum is not really a straight line as there are totalitarians at the fringe ends of all the political philosophies.
What the hell is "transformative justice?" Is justice no longer good enough?
Changing the language used to refer to someone is not about soothing the hurt feelings of the person referred to, it's about showing how sensitive the person doing the calling out is.
And about beating others over the head with that sensitivity.
I originally read that as "multiply" as in multiplication. It made the sentence awkward.
As Patrick asked, WTF? If you're marginalized because of multiple things, you're still marginalized. Does it matter, the multiplicity of causes?
Another word co-opted by the Humpty Dumpty SJWs. "'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'"
They use "unsafe" to mean "uncomfortable" because they equate being offended with being physically hurt.
Their "safe zones" have nothing to do with physical security and everything to do with emotional security blankets.
And so the left-wing coalition starts to fray as the revolution begins to eat itself.
Forgetting the main goal is to elect someone other than a Republican, the Democratic factions are beginning to attack each other in earnest. Both Martin O'Malley and Bernie Sanders have had speeches shut down by #blacklivesmatter.
Conan the Grammarian at August 18, 2015 8:54 AM
Republicans have been doing this for years.
If a candidate is not a religious nutter or happens to not want a blanket ban on abortions, he's derided as being a RINO (Republican in Name Only).
Make you wonder if the Founding Fathers were right in their disdain for political parties.
Conan the Grammarian at August 18, 2015 9:19 AM
"multiply marginalized" - Life sucks. It just sucks more for some people.
"transformative justice" - Bigotry. The punishment of people for unfavored attributes. I.e. skin color, income, political party, ...
I'll buy that.
So wouldn't 'transformative justice' also mean that we change up which group we hate/discriminate against every few weeks or so?
drcos at August 18, 2015 9:32 AM
So let's see if I've got the new usage down:
"short temper" becomes "vertically challenged temper"
"regular black coffee" becomes "cis African American coffee"
"dropout" becomes "alternatively educated"
Have I got it?
Craig at August 18, 2015 9:51 AM
Some people don't know how good they have it. A taste:
I R A Darth Aggie at August 18, 2015 11:46 AM
*Can I say "he" or do I have to use something like s/he/it?
That's best abbreviated as "s/h/it".
Yer welcome.
I R A Darth Aggie at August 18, 2015 11:48 AM
Conan: Forgetting the main goal is to elect someone other than a Republican, the Democratic factions are beginning to attack each other in earnest. Both Martin O'Malley and Bernie Sanders have had speeches shut down by #blacklivesmatter.
And those instigators should have been arrested.
Patrick at August 18, 2015 1:16 PM
"Does it matter, the multiplicity of causes?"
Yes it does. When everyone is disadvantaged you have to rank the disadvantages to establish a pecking order. Without a pecking order you don't know how to apply "transformative justice". After all, who do you discriminate against, the black lesbian or the hispanic trans?
Ben at August 18, 2015 1:36 PM
It's about time these professional victims started being the targets of serious humor.
FWIW, I thought the original site deserved a link back (something Infoshop didn't do either). It's at https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/3fftfz/things_that_anarchists_say_to_me_in_private_but/
jdgalt at August 18, 2015 4:53 PM
"mass incarceration"
Seems to be used referring to blacks being arrested. Are blacks now claiming to be Japanese?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_ofmass incarceration_Japanese_Americans
Bob in Texas at August 18, 2015 5:37 PM
I R A Darth: your link was interesting. I think I've read something on it before. Do you know if the women are receiving training?
Mel at August 19, 2015 5:54 AM
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