Popehat On Parenting -- Of Children And The Rest Of Us
A 2010 Popehat post on the lady, Monet Parnham-Lee, employed California Department of Public Health, who, with the Center for Science in the Public Interest, sued McDonald's -- supposedly -- because she couldn't say no to her kid's demands for Happy Meals:
Monet Parham-Lee is suing because, we're led to believe, her six year old daughter Maya harasses her on a daily basis for plastic Shreks. Monet Parham-Lee, evidently, is suing for negligent or intentional infliction of emotional distress. Her emotional distress is caused by the fact that her six year old daughter, Maya, will not stop hectoring her about these plastic Shreks.I have a suggestion for Monet Parham-Lee. I have several suggestions in fact:
1. Tell your six year old daughter Maya to shut the fuck up. And eat her damned vegetables.2. Buy the damned Happy Meal on the way home from work, then throw out the hamburger and fries. Give Maya the plastic Shrek. A Happy Meal costs two dollars or something. You don't have two dollars? You're an overpaid state employee in a state that's going bankrupt because of people like you. You can afford it.
3. If you want to see emotional distress, wait until your six year old daughter Maya is old enough to Google herself. And her mom. So you can explain to her what the word "fuck" means. Because this post is NEVER GOING TO GO AWAY.
Of course this suit isn't being filed because Maya Parham-Lee eats too many damned Happy Meals. Or because she can't get her plastic Shrek. Or because Monet Parham-Lee is so damned weak that she's suffered ACTIONABLE EMOTIONAL DISTRESS from telling her daughter, six year old Maya, "No."
Maya Parham-Lee, the six year old daughter of Monet Parham-Lee, has probably never eaten a Happy Meal in her life. I'll bet she's eaten thousands of Unhappy Meals: wheat germ, carrots, whey, lentils, spirulina, oats, and raw, uncooked hay.
All of it steamed or boiled. Except for the raw hay.
It's been filed because Monet Parham-Lee, and the Center for Science in the Public Interest, want to control what everyone eats. But they lack the persuasive skills to convince California voters to ban cheeseburgers, french fries, lard, sugar, alcohol, caffeine, and all of the other things that make a meal truly Happy.
Nitwit commenting at Popehat:
Brittney Kara Wow! Lots of hatred on this blog. First off, while I don't agree with not taking responsibility for parenting choices, I do think that it is completely wrong for McDonald's to market to young children. There is loads of information out there exposing the ingredients in McDonald's to be toxic and very bad for your health. If you are not aware of this then you all need to see documentaries like Food Inc, Food Matters, and Super Size me. McDonald's is NOT FOOD! Fast Food is a huge factor in the rising childhood obesity epidemic. These corporations need to start to take responsibility for what they are marketing to young children. I have a 2 year old daughter who has NEVER eaten at McDonald's and never will because I refuse to feed my child poison. The truth is that people are not educated about what is really in those products and so most Americans believe that it is ok to eat there and feed their children this junk. I don't think that McDonald's should be 100% responsible for the decisions she makes as a parent, but I do believe that they need to be held social responsible for the damages they are causing people's health. By the way the marketing they use with the colors, themes, and toys they market to children has been proven to increase hunger, produce positive emotions, and is designed to make people addicted to their food. Trying to get children addicted to anything should be illegal!! At least she is speaking out about a problem that is negatively affecting our nation.
My parents, who acted all, you know, parental, rarely let us have McDonald's. We got it if we went with my dad to his office on Saturday, which happened about once every six months.
In other words, it was a treat.
We were allowed to scream -- but only if we were mortally wounded after being attacked by a rabid mountain lion...of which there were exactly none in the flat, deforested Detroit, Michigan suburb in which I grew up.








So, to the nitwit (wish I could get to Popehat's site to comment on it, but our net-nanny software at work blocks it): (1) since when does disagreeing with your opinion constitute "hatred", and (2) since you have cited those notable scientists Michael Moore and Morgan Spurlock as your authorities, I'm sure you will be able to tell us the precise chemistry names for all of those toxins that McDonald's is loading into their food.
And a thought: We all mock companies who try to engage in "reputation management". But when a company is having to constantly battle media-favored activist groups who are trying to destroy them, you can see why they do it.
Cousin Dave at August 3, 2015 7:03 AM
While, being an Amy Dacyczyn fan, I'm all in favor of telling kids: "You want it, YOU pay for it AND you earn the money first," I have to say I suspect it would be a lot easier for parents to do that if they weren't so often surrounded by parents who would consider that to be abuse - and might even call CPS with grossly exaggerated stories to get such parents in trouble. (Sort of like the stories of free-range kids whose nasty neighbors call the police on the parents - not counting those cases where the kids were being horribly noisy. Or parents who won't have video games in the house. Or...)
In the same vein, refusing to have kids at all, in many conservative neighborhoods, can be almost as emotionally painful and frightening as breaking away from a cult/religion that you were born into - all of a sudden, you find you don't have any real friends anymore; you could even be disinheirited.
lenona at August 3, 2015 8:35 AM
Yeah, this wasn't about Ms. Parham-Lee's kid, this was about everyone else's kids. Monet doesn't like the way you're feeding your children.
If you let your children watch television, they're going to be exposed to a lot of marketing (unless they're only watching PBS and the "junior" networks.) When it comes to both McDonalds and the cesspool known as Chuck-E-Cheese's, I just say, "No." Occasionally, I elaborate with, "because Mommy doesn't like the people who go there, and it's dirty. Now stop asking or you don't get (fill in the blank)."
It's ridiculous, these people pretending that parents can't just f*cking say no.
Whatever happened with the lawsuit, anyway?
ahw at August 3, 2015 9:04 AM
Whenever I read something online that starts with, "Wow! Lots of hatred on this blog," I know that what follows will be the ineffectual whining of a complete ninny with a room temperature IQ.
Pirate Jo at August 3, 2015 9:09 AM
Just turn kids loose on the Facebook sites of the guilty parties (definitely not the kid) and their backers.
Should be interesting once the Grandparents know they may not be able to buy Happy Meals for their grandbabies.
After all, it is called social media.
Bob in Texas at August 3, 2015 9:24 AM
From the original L.A. Times story:
The organization had been threatening to sue McDonald's since last summer, claiming that the Happy Meals toys constitute a method of circumventing parental control
Only in today's Bizarro Parent World does abdicating control of your responsibilities equal someone else "circumventing" your control.
Kevin at August 3, 2015 9:33 AM
since when does disagreeing with your opinion constitute "hatred"
Since people realized it was easier to shut down an argument claiming that as opposed to doing the hard work of thinking and replying with a cogent response
lujlp at August 3, 2015 10:32 AM
Isn't there a rumor floating about a big cat roaming about in Detroit?
I R A Darth Aggie at August 3, 2015 12:03 PM
since when does disagreeing with your opinion constitute "hatred"
lujlp's response is correct, but brief. It comes back to a certain amount of confirmation bias, as well as thinking that right minded people agree with you and that those who disagree with you are either stupid, ignorant, or paid shills who know what they're doing is wrong, but are malevolent enough to keep doing it.
At which point one can "safely" write them off. They also have turned being ignorant into an actual sin. Ignorance shouldn't be sin unless one stays that way willingly. Stupid can only be fixed by being beaten with a clue stick.
I R A Darth Aggie at August 3, 2015 12:12 PM
Whatever happened to "Because I said so" in the parental aresenal?
Conan the Grammarian at August 3, 2015 1:22 PM
Personally, I think even saying "because I said so" can easily sound weak and defensive, compared to simply refusing to respond at all. As Miss Manners once said "not every question deserves an answer." (She wasn't just talking about kids' questions, either.)
But here's a more positive alternative to the whiny question "WHY?!"
"Trust me."
lenona at August 3, 2015 1:50 PM
Correction:
"more positive alternative response."
lenona at August 3, 2015 1:51 PM
"Monet Parham-Lee is suing because, we're led to believe, her six year old daughter Maya harasses her on a daily basis for plastic Shreks."
Sheesh, all the kid wants is a Shrek? She's not asking for poison food. If the little girl wants a Shrek that bad, why not just give her one and enjoy her momentary happiness?
If one of my daughters wanted a little plastic Shrek that much, she'd have had it a long time ago. My precious little granddaughters would only have to ask, and I'd get them Shreks, and probably let them have the Happy Meal too. And an ice-cream cone. Not a Coke though. Something about giving my little ones Coke doesn't feel right to me.
The fact that little kids desire such simple, inexpensive things is a blessing. It creates many cost effective opportunities to teach them good things.
Ken R at August 3, 2015 2:10 PM
Fast food wasn't around when I was six. But, can't remember when exactly, but before turning six, no meant no. No need to be repeated. By six, I just got a look, no words required. Raised my three the same way. Must be in the genes.
Dave B at August 3, 2015 3:19 PM
Fast food wasn't around when I was six. But, can't remember when exactly, but before turning six, no meant no. No need to be repeated. By six, I just got a look, no words required. Raised my three the same way. Must be in the genes.
Posted by: Dave B at August 3, 2015 3:19 PM
And this exactly why a mom AND a dad in residence is the best way to raise kids.
More difficult to wear two people down, and when one parent has had enough, the other one can step in.
Big daddy government doesn't have to be the pinch hitter, when the single parent has a backbone of a banana,
I have seen some really whiny and difficult children. A few that nothing but constant supervision, and parental effort could keep in line. This is really really tough to deal with unless there are two or more adults available.
My daughter was always an angel at school, At home, she was the spawn of the devil.
I used to tease my husband, that if he ever wanted a divorce, I would make him take her.
Isab at August 3, 2015 4:33 PM
Is "no" no longer in the dictionary, or is it that we have evolved to lack spines?
MarkD at August 4, 2015 3:59 AM
Turn off the TV. Then your child will not see the commercials. Problem solved.
NicoleK at August 4, 2015 5:02 AM
Speaking of TV...I have to wonder why so many parents say they "need" it to keep their kids occupied while they do the chores. If all the kids are over three, they can start "helping" with the chores, if only so as to get them used to the habit, since actual skill can take a year or two while their physical coordination catches up. It also makes them realize that adults are not there to entertain them and that if they're bored, they can either work or entertain themselves and stop whining.
And if there's one kid under three and another kid who's older, the older kid can keep the toddler out of mischief. If all else fails, simply turn the playpen upside down over the toddler and put a few heavy folded blankets on top to weigh it down. How is that any worse than putting an unwilling 1-year-old in a playpen while you take a shower?
lenona at August 4, 2015 7:51 AM
NicoleK: Turn off the TV. Then your child will not see the commercials. Problem solved."
Good idea. In 1977, about a month before my first daughter was born, the TV broke down. It was a black and white one with a round screen and a large, heavy wood cabinet. I gave it to the old man across the street who had a perpetual garage sale. I haven't had a TV since. My daughters grew up without them - no morally corrupt, brain dead TV programs or commercials for them. But they still wanted McDonalds.
Ken R at August 5, 2015 1:50 AM
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