Unfortunately, her supporters ill still blindly follow her no matter what. They will see it as proof that the establishment fears her.
They swallowed the narrative she was poor after the White house, and that she is against deep pocket campaign contributions, the will swallow anything.

This is the same sort of thing they charged and convicted David Petraeus.

If it is just 4 emails, then it is just 4 counts. But she claims to have funnelled all of her email thru that server, so it should be many many more counts.

And I still haven't heard a description of the software they were running, or who set it up, or who was responsible for keeping it running, backed up, and with up-to-date software.

She is unfit for office, any office.
Also: were are the backups? how were they secured? who had access?

I'm going to go out on a bit of limb, but this is an educated guesstimate: every foreign intelligence service that became aware of this machine gained access. And they were able to not only access the communication flow, but also her web of contacts. Bet there is more than a little bit of leverage contained in that treasure trove of data.

The complete and utter fail here is breathtaking.

Literally EVERY SINGLE LAW, policy, and standard procedure for the handling of classified data was broken. This is every bit as bad as the OPM Hack, and our Inevitable Next President did it on purpose. . .

Hillary has committed violations of the Federal Records Act (which requires that all government records be preserved), the Freedom of Information Act (which requires that all government records be accounted for and available to the public), and the various laws that control handling of classified information. If she were an average civil servant or contractor employee, and not an extremely-well-connected Washington bigwig, she would be facing trial now, and it would be a slam-dunk conviction. Her claims about the case amount to the equivalent of Al Gore's "no controlling legal authority" -- basically, it's a claim of privilege above the law. And she will probably get away with it; when she wins the election, she will simply order the investigation to be shut down.

The way that she has handled this demonstrates the way that she will handle national security information as President. She will withhold important information from the American people, while at the same time exposing our most sensitive secrets to foreign governments. This is not an accident. It's all part of the plan. The hoi-polloi must be taught a lesson about who their betters are, and Hillary is just the person to do it.

FYI: In the U.S. system, "Top secret" is not really the highest security classification. There is a thing called "sensitive compartmented information" or SCI, that is sorta kinda higher than TS, although it isn't really a strict heirarchy at that level. At the SCI level, each individual project or topic is essentially its own clearance level. You have to be cleared for that specific project or topic to access SCI; having a TS and need to know is not sufficient.

Not so fast, Cousin Dave. Bernie Sanders is beating her in New Hampshire.

Not so fast, Cousin Dave. Bernie Sanders is beating her in New Hampshire.

Posted by: Patrick at August 12, 2015 9:36 AM

He won't get the nomination, and neither will Hillary if the Democratic Party decides that she is a liability.

I could be wrong, but I believe the moment she looks unelectable, DOJ will unleash the dogs.

Unless she has some serious dirt, on the right people, enough counter blackmail to get them to back off, she is probably toast.

You know Obama doesn't have her back. Obama watches out for only Obama.

There's no way anyone but Hillary will be the Democrat nominee. She sees herself as entitled to it; she's got about a 100:1 fundraising advantage against Sanders, and she probably does in fact have the dirt against almost anyone in the party who would oppose her. Yeah, the media is giving her problems right now, but threats to cut the troublemakers off of the Washington cocktail party A-list will eventually take care of that.

You notice that #BlackLivesMatter isn't giving her any trouble, like it's doing to Sanders. There's a reason for that.

There's no way anyone but Hillary will be the Democrat nominee.

Right. There's no way she loses the nomination to a left-wing senator no one's ever heard of.

...she's got about a 100:1 fundraising advantage against Sanders....

He's drawing 15,00-20,000 to his rallies across the country while the best she has done is less than 6,000 to her candidacy announcement.

He's drawing 15,00-20,000 to his rallies across the country while the best she has done is less than 6,000 to her candidacy announcement.

Posted by: Conan the Grammarian at August 12, 2015 10:36 AM

I'm with Cousin Dave.

This metric isn't worth the proverbial bucket of warm spit.

And Cousin Dave, I think they have Hillary dead to rights on corruption and influence pedaling through the Clinton Foundation.

You say she has the connections to beat the rap. If she does, we are looking at one party rule in the near future.

My biggest hope is that they can't stuff the ballot boxes sufficiently in the urban areas to cover her margin of loss in the swing states, but perhaps I am dreaming.

She certainly does not poll well in Ohio and Florida.

You know Obama doesn't have her back.

Oh, yes he does. Just not the way HRC would like it to be: if the moment is right, and things are going his way, he'll cheerfully slip a dagger into that back, especially if it derails her candidacy.

Obama looks out for Obama, but he's not above collecting a scalp, especially if he can do so without getting the blame.

Personally wondering if Black lives matters is targeting Bernie Sanders on Clinton's orders.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-black-lives-matter_55c68f14e4b0923c12bd197e

"know Obama doesn't have her back.

Oh, yes he does. Just not the way HRC would like it to be: if the moment is right, and things are going his way, he'll cheerfully slip a dagger into that back, especially if it derails her candidacy."

Yep. She thinks he is a nitwit, and he thinks she is a bitch. In this case, they are both right.

He won't hesitate to stick it to her.

Conan agrees with me? I must be wrong.

Well, you know, she now claims that emails on that server may be classified NOW. But, they weren't classified THEN.

Just what the heck do they put in that good ole Arkansas bread recipes? Anything like "magic" brownies back in the 70s? Either she scarfing them down or she is hoping that we are.

She is unfit for office, any office. - Aggie

Not even Village Idiot? wow...

Well, you know, she now claims that emails on that server may be classified NOW. But, they weren't classified THEN. ~ Posted by: charles at August 12, 2015 6:35 PM

They weren't classified then because she had just written them. They hadn't yet been vetted to determine if they needed to be classified. As Secretary of State, she knows that's the procedure and is being disingenuous.

Actually Conan there was information she sent from her server that was classified at the time she sent it. Also, some of the emails that she turned over to the state department have been edited. So someone read and reviewed those emails, not just a simple program. Who did that is not clear and most likely they didn't have permission to review even the later classified information.

So, she lied. About all of it. But hey, what else is new.

So, she lied. About all of it. But hey, what else is new. ~ Posted by: Ben at August 12, 2015 8:19 PM

And they weren't even good lies. They were brute force BS. No creativity.

Her husband's lies were also brute force BS, but he had the charisma to pull that off. She doesn't.

"They weren't classified then because she had just written them. They hadn't yet been vetted to determine if they needed to be classified. As Secretary of State, she knows that's the procedure and is being disingenuous."

Yep. I just checked, and the SecState is on the list of government officials with "original classification authority". So it was her responsibility to determine the classification of anything she authored and handle it appropriately. The same would go for anything produced by one of her subordinates -- they would come to her for classification decisions.

As SecState, it is inconceivable that she would not be sending or receiving classified material.

I am frankly surprised that the server for her home e mail system is still in existence.

Anyone want to bet that it is a completely new one, and not the one that was used while she was Secretary of State?

The problem is, they may be able to recover most of the emails from the people that either sent them or received them.

And of course, there is also the possibility that the Chinese government might sell them back to us for a small fee.

This whole business of how to handle classified email is either something Hillary understood very poorly, and was extremely stupid about, or she truly is criminally brazen, and entitled.

Either way, not someone I can see as President.

Isab: "The problem is, they may be able to recover most of the emails from the people that either sent them or received them."

Maybe not. If I were someone who sent or received one of those emails you can bet that I would keep my mouth shut unless a court order forced me to talk.

Why? Because I like to stay alive. Cross that bitch and you could very well end up dead in a "car accident."

And, no I am not joking.

Also, some of the emails that she turned over to the state department have been edited. ~ Posted by: Ben at August 12, 2015 8:19 PM

Let's keep in mind that she didn't turn over any actual e-mails to the State Department. She turned over 55,000 pages of printouts of e-mails. So, no computer searches were possible. All reviews, searches, etc. have to be done manually.

And then she erased the server.

Here's the part that really gets me. Why was she doing all of this? Because she was using it to communicate with a whole network of private informants and political advisors that she had set up. Remember, this is only the tip of an iceberg: don't forget those stories about how she had her own intel analysts and so forth, and that she was sharing stuff with them rather than with State Department employees (who presumably would have been using government computers, which would have captured records). What has happened with all of the computers that were on the other end of those emails? Have they all been destroyed? (My guess is yes, but there could be someone who was dumb enough to think that just deleting files made them inaccessible.)

Here's the really odd part. Reading the above, there is a plausible if very unlikely defense: She could argue that State was so compromised with foreign agents that she found it necessary to set up a private communications network to prevent sensitive information from falling into enemy hands. This is James Bond territory, but since Hillary kind of fancies herself as a James Bond type (remember her "sniper fire"?), I can see her trying to make that defense. I think that defense can be disproven, based on what we know of things like Benghazi, but it's enough of a red herring to throw things off track.