I'm actually surprised the school didn't ban the lunchbox over WW's sexy attire.

There is a certain irony in that Wonder Woman was created at the start of WWII to fight the Axis powers; helping to save those Brits from the Nazis.

Some folks are so far gone that even her "purple ray" wouldn't heal them.

Wouldn't want the little girl to think that she two could be proactive, stand up to bullies, or speak her mind.

The Hive comes first!

I don't unnerstan' what the Progs are aiming for (oops) here. It's OK to go to the gas chamber as long as you do it with a pure heart? I fail that test. They are myopic with their ignorance of history and human nature.

I too oppose the power rangers. If you are going to show violence it should be somewhat realistic. Far too many kids watching that poorly acted crap have no idea what is dangerous and what is not, what is effective and what is not.

I saw a little kid (around 6 or 7) try a power rangers jump kick at a wrestling meet. His opponent intelligently stepped to the side. Mr Stupid Frog dislocated his knee and had to be carted out in an ambulance when he fell wrong.

Power rangers is worse than professional wrestling.

My oldest grandson started 2nd grade this year. A few years ago I was concerned that because I encouraged him to play with toy guns and swords that he might do something like chew a pop tart into a gun and get kicked out of school. That hasn't happened. I don't have any scientific evidence to back this up, but my theory is that because he is allowed to be a little boy and play with guns and swords and have very heated battles with all of us, he isn't looking for an outlet for that little boy play at school. I'm sure he still runs around and acts like the goofball he is, he's just not looking to manufacture a weapon from his food. It's crazy to me that schools are trying to destroy the nature and essence of little boys (and some girls) and for that reason, I will always encourage my grandsons to play like boys and part of that will be to keep the toy box stocked with weapons of little boy warfare. There's nothing like a lively sword fight around the house just before bed.

Sara, I suspect you're right.

And who doesn't love a "lively sword fight around the house just before bed"?!

Before I saw the image of the offending lunchbox, I was wondering (no pun intended) what the illustrations looked like. Was it Wonder Woman kayoing some nefarious evil-doer? Perhaps subduing someone with her magical lasso?

But no, it wasn't even that. It was just a closeup of Wonder Woman's face, and a full-body illustration of her in an action pose.

I also don't view the three men who saved the train passengers as having "used violence to solve their problems." The one using violence to solve his problems was the would-be murderer; in his warped mind, whatever issue he was contending with was to be solved (or partially solved) by gunning down innocent people.

What were the three Americans supposed to do? Sit down with the Muslim assailant and discuss his problems over tea and scones? Somehow, I don't think that would have been terribly availing.

@dee nile
That would be slut shaming, you horrible misogynist! Off to the re-education camps with you.

"lively sword fight around the house just before bed"

I do not mean to pry, but you don't by any chance happen to have six fingers on your right hand?

I saw a little kid (around 6 or 7) try a power rangers jump kick...dislocated his knee and had to be carted out in an ambulance when he fell wrong.

Thus endeth the lesson.

I also don't view the three men who saved the train passengers as having "used violence to solve their problems."

Indeed. Based on various accounts, one of the guys trains jiu-jitsu and subdued the attacker using a rear naked choke, if reports are accurate. In other words, although there was a mad scramble at first, he ended the altercation efficiently, using almost no force at all.

And, related to the topic of this post: I was talking to a mom (who trains with me) about her two daughters (who just started training). She says her family is a bit controversial in her friend circle, as "Kids should learn to end conflicts without violence." But guess who regularly (vocally, not physically) stands up to bullies? Her kids. The ones who are learning to break arms and choke. There's a confidence and sense of responsibility that comes from that -- which those guys on the train illustrated.

That would be slut shaming, you horrible misogynist! Off to the re-education camps with you.

The comet scientist who was hounded for his non-PC shirt should have tried that line.

@Ira...is your name Inigo Montoya?

As a kid we played wars with pea shooters: simply a plastic straw with navy beans. Sometimes a dozen involved. Not only does it not look like a gun (so police can't shoot you) but the peas are biodegradable!

Everyone should have some idea how to defend themselves, even if only modestly successfully. If you can't defend yourself you can't assess risk and will be unable to distinguish between a picture of a nerf gun and an actual assailant (oh wait, that does seem to be the problem here...).

There was a story, shortly after 9-11, by a woman who sent her six-year old boy to all the right places. No tag. No play guns. You get the idea.
After he got home from school that dreadful day, he got his Batman tee shirt on and told his mom not to wait dinner. He and his buddy Jacob were going to save the world.
Can't have that.

I agree there's definitely such a thing as anti-violence paranoia; kids need outlets at home if they're to avoid getting into trouble at school.

Even so, parents with common sense should know that kids should NOT be allowed any realistic toy guns, given how many trigger-happy cops - or adult thugs - might be around. (One can find plenty of tragic stories in the news about that.) Also, if parents are very uncomfortable with toy guns of any kind, at the least, they should not have to PAY for the toys themselves, just as they shouldn't have to pay for their kids' daily whimsical purchases once the kids' allowances have been spent. Even little kids can do extra chores around the house and earn money (after their regular chores are done).

So, I guess pictures of RAF pilots from the Battle of Britain are prohibited in the school. Hard to imagine this was the country of Winston Churchill.

The irony is that Wonder Woman was created as a non-violent superhero - to give girls a superhero on a par with the boys' heroes (Superman and Batman).

I don't quite agree Conan. Wonder Woman was created by an old school feminist who wanted to indoctrinate little boys into the superiority of women by sexually arousing them. He felt comics where not being utilized enough for education purposes and while he gave lip service to a woman super hero to empower women his intention was always to get men to lovingly submit to women and to authority in general.

The dude was AWESOME (as in he was a nutjob, my favorite kind of awesome).

Modern feminism kinda ruined the character IMO in that they make her a "man hater" more often than I like and she is more blood thirsty and violent than batman or superman.

That lunchbox would be cooler if it had Wonder Woman's "Suffering Sappho!" catchphrase. The creator used to use it to piss of censors because of the implied homosexuality in Paradise Island.

Wonder Woman was created by an old school feminist who wanted to indoctrinate little boys into the superiority of women by sexually arousing them.

Ppen,

It's a little more complex than that. Bondage themes were entering the pop culture at that time. William Moulton Marston was ahead of the curve on that one.

Marston, who lived in an extended relationship with his wife and girlfriend was fascinated by bondage, submission, and detecting deception (he invented the systolic blood pressure test used in polygraphs today). All of these themes were worked into Wonder Woman.

His wife, who was instrumental in the creation of Wonder Woman, was a career woman in an age where that was rare. She went back to work after having her first child, an almost unheard of act then.

As for his being a feminist, I have my doubts. He was in favor of women being submissive: "Not even girls want to be girls so long as our feminine archetype lacks force, strength, and power. Not wanting to be girls, they don't want to be tender, submissive, peace-loving as good women are. Women's strong qualities have become despised because of their weakness. The obvious remedy is to create a feminine character with all the strength of Superman plus all the allure of a good and beautiful woman."

With that in mind, it may be arguable that Wonder Woman was created to indoctrinate girls.

"Even so, parents with common sense should know that kids should NOT be allowed any realistic toy guns, given how many trigger-happy cops - or adult thugs - might be around."

Actually there are no such things are realistic toy guns, as in the U.S. they are all required to have a fixed orange indicator on the end of the barrel so you can tell that they are not real.

But considering the cops these days, I would hesitate to give my child a toy car, for fear that the police would start issuing tickets.

Toy guns are a bad idea, I say teach the kid how to shoot a real gun, at no older than ten, under strict supervision with a test on the safety rules.

I take my 12 year old cousins shooting every summer. It is the highlight of their summer vacation.

My first memory when I was growing up were rifles stacked in every corner. My parents didn't need to put them in a safe, anymore than they needed to put the booze in the safe, or the aspirin in a safe or take the knobs off the stove.
The answer back then was to discipline and teach your children.

Not a single person in my high school class was killed in a firearms accident. However, drunk driving got about five of them.

I didn't phrase my previous comment very well. That's what I get for commenting before breakfast. I just found it very interesting that the Wonder Woman lunchbox didn't actually depict Wonder Woman doing anything violent. Just a picture of her face and a picture of her in an action pose.

If the lunchbox had actually depicted Wonder Woman doing something violent, I'd have a little more understanding for the uptight schoolmarms, but it's not. She's not doing anything violent (unless it's on the side panels of the lunch box); she's just looking superheroic. The fact that she's not depicted in violent acts just compounds the stupidity.

Also I don't view superheroes as those who solve their problems with violence. They resort to violence because their opponents leave them no choice other than to flee the scene and leave innocent people at the mercy of supervillians.

That's not solving your problems with violence; it's employing the only solution you have left. Just like the three heroic Americans on the train. Their only options were to subdue the guy or be gunned down. That's hardly "using violence to solve their problems."

Don't make me bust out my Wonder Woman history books Conan ;)

He certainly was a feminist. He was very vocal about his belief women should and eventually would rule the world and were better suited than men for the purpose. His intention was to indoctrinate and prepare boys into accepting and even looking forward to female domination. The women in his family where very big advocates of planned parenthood AND when deciding on an artist he went with a guy that used to draw suffragette cartoons. Plus reading the original comics you can really tell he borrowed from that whole feminist utopia cliche that was popular at the time.

As to the quote he didn't use submission as you're implying. He wanted everyone to be submissive and thus he viewed it as a favorable trait naturally found in women that needed to be taught and pushed into boys.

He was full of it at home of course. By all accounts he was the head of the household with his wife and gf and massive amount of kids.

Ppen, I bow to your superior knowledge of Wonder Woman history.

"Actually there are no such things are realistic toy guns, as in the U.S. they are all required to have a fixed orange indicator on the end of the barrel so you can tell that they are not real."

Strange. I will be carrying a replica 1929 Thompson sub machine gun this coming Labor Day – and unless you look closely, very closely, you can't tell it's a replica.

No orange anywhere. No, it didn't come from Toys "R" Us.

This illustrates another absurdity well: if I have an orange muzzle on my pistol, then it is obviously fake.

I hope you can see how wrong that is.

Anyone else find it odd that the logical end game of radical feminism is to make men rare enough to only be useful for breeding and too valuable to risk doing any real work?

A society which values men so greatly that they dont have to do anything they want to and have endless access to sex with thousands of women and women do all the work to make mens life easy?

Do none of them see the irony?

Strange. I will be carrying a replica 1929 Thompson sub machine gun this coming Labor Day – and unless you look closely, very closely, you can't tell it's a replica.

How old is it? Law is fairly recent.

And the police have been shooting unarmed people, and people who were not threatening them for ages.
The laws need to stop catering to what police *perceive* as a threat, and start operating on actual threats.

People in Wyoming don't call the police when they see kids playing with toy guns, people in LA probably do.

Toy guns are bad in my opinion, because they encourage disrespect for the real thing.

Most the responsible parents didn't allow their kids to have BB guns when I was a kid, because they didn't want them to get in the habit of treating them like a toy, with no muzzle discipline.

"Most the responsible parents didn't allow their kids to have BB guns when I was a kid, because they didn't want them to get in the habit of treating them like a toy, with no muzzle discipline."

I had a BB gun when I was young, and my stepfather did teach me gun safety (he was a hunter). Pointing the damn thing was one of the things he emphasized. Especially since, with the older BB guns, it was really difficult to ensure it was completely unloaded -- sometimes you'd empty it and pull the trigger two or three times with no result, then one more BB rattling around in the mechanism would find its way to the chamber.

I wonder, does the school allow Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle lunch boxes? Power Puff Girls? DragonballZ? Can they even reasonably keep up with all the various kids' characters to know which sit to tea to solve problems and which kick ass to solve problems?

Basically, these people are hypocrites unless they limit lunch boxes to plain colors/patterns, Hello Kitty, Scooby Doo, and Dora.

Or did they send home every Elsa lunchbox after Frozen came out? And let's not forget the children's clothing (unless they have uniforms there, I'm betting SOMEBODY had a TMNT, Minecraft, or Frozen shirt in the last year.

My question is, why are they picking on THIS particular child?

I had a BB gun when I was young, and my stepfather did teach me gun safety (he was a hunter). Pointing the damn thing was one of the things he emphasized. Especially since, with the older BB guns, it was really difficult to ensure it was completely unloaded -- sometimes you'd empty it and pull the trigger two or three times with no result, then one more BB rattling around in the mechanism would find its way to the chamber. ~ Posted by: Cousin Dave at August 28, 2015 6:46 AM

I, too, had a BB gun as a child and was taught muzzle discipline. Pointing it at anything living or at anything I didn't intend to shoot was a no no. And I was expected to know what was behind my target in case I missed - even though the gun had such a low muzzle velocity that it couldn't have injured a mouse and such poor accuracy that I couldn't have hit one except by accident.

Now, I watch nephews with pellet guns (.177 caliber weapons with a higher muzzle velocity than a standard BB gun) with no muzzle discipline, using the things like pointers, waving them around willy-nilly and wonder what those kids are gonna accidentally shoot when they get a .22 caliber rifle. And if I try to tell them not to point a weapon at me, they get indignant and tell me it's not a real gun.

We're not teaching our children the lessons they need to be taught about weapons and we wonder why we have so much gun violence.