You Do Have To Appreciate The French Form Of Sacrilege
It's dining without wine, Iran's requirement that France said, "Eh, non" to.
WaPo Berlin Bureau chief Anthony Faiola writes:
BERLIN -- Guess who's not coming to dinner -- or even breakfast or lunch?Ahead of Iranian President Hassan Rouhani's landmark European trip kicking off this weekend, French officials reportedly nixed plans for a formal meal in Paris with President François Hollande following a dispute over the menu. The Iranians, according to France's RTL Radio, insisted on a wine-free meal with halal meat -- a request based on Islamic codes that amounted to culinary sacrilege in France, a nation that puts the secular ideals of the Republic above all else.
The French, RTL said, counter offered with a presumably alcohol-free breakfast -- which the Iranians promptly rejected because it appeared too "cheap." The two leaders will now reportedly settle for a face-to-face chat next Tuesday.








I have this problem sometimes as a strict vegetarian, I like to invite but I know there are people who just won't eat a meatless meal.
So I throw a lot of tea parties with lots of cute finger foods and cakes and cookies and such.
But if someone else is inviting me, I don't expect them to forgo whatever it is they want to eat in their home.
I think the breakfast idea was a good one, too bad the Iranians said no.
NicoleK at November 12, 2015 1:00 AM
Do the French include bacon at breakfast? :)
They should just Skype
mer at November 12, 2015 3:22 AM
Some years ago, we had to go to France to visit a vendor. After an executive led us on a tour of the vendor's factory, we set down to lunch at a cafeteria that served that factory, plus a few others in the vicinity. It was there that the executive got into an argument with the cafeteria manager over the choice of wines!
Only in France! Back here, lunch would have been ordered in from Subway or something.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at November 12, 2015 5:49 AM
I'm not all head-over-heels in love with the French like some people, but they do know how to eat. Good for them for refusing to alter their cultural expectations for the middle easterners.
momof4 at November 12, 2015 7:29 AM
The current French are almost religious fanatics about secularism.
I wonder what will happen when France has a majority Muslim population.
Conan the Grammarian at November 12, 2015 10:08 AM
Yeah, let's give THOSE guys nuclear technology.
They seem so level-headed and rational.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at November 12, 2015 12:05 PM
"I wonder what will happen when France has a majority Muslim population."
Never happen. The French are not much better than other Europeans when it comes to eliminating unwanted Semites. They have a history.
Jim at November 12, 2015 2:44 PM
Ha ha, Jim. You make Semites sound like termites.
Canvasback at November 12, 2015 10:46 PM
Good on Pres. Hollande and his staff. But I think you see the true nature of the Middle Eastern cultures here. They are guests in a foreign country, yet arrogantly demand that everything must be done their way. And if you give in to that, there will only be another bigger, more dramatic demand to follow. I'm afraid for the West, no one is willing to say "No." to these bastards.
bkmale at November 13, 2015 7:37 AM
What the hell is wrong with wine is being served but you don't have to drink it? Unless someone is holding your nose and pouring it into your mouth, to hell with you. You don't get to demand that others follow your practices.
If they were having breakfast with me on a Sunday morning I guess my Bloody Mary pick-me-up wouldn't be acceptable either. Place round the corner from me has three versions - traditional Bloody Mary (vodka), a Bloody Maria (tequila), and the alcohol free version - the Bloody Shame.
Ltw at November 13, 2015 9:47 AM
bkmale, I wonder how it would go if a Western delegation to Iran refused to turn up to a dinner because it was alcohol free? And that everyone there had to drink because otherwise it was an insult?
Funny, I had a few drinks at the pub with some Russian expats and at some point, for some reason, we were toasting something. I'd had a few already, so I raised my glass and clinked it but didn't drink. Oops. Killing stares. One of them explained that refusing to drink for a toast was in their culture akin to shitting in their food. Touching the glass to your lips and tilting it enough for a tiny sip was enough to show that you cared.
I wonder how Iranian delegations to Russia handle it? I'll bet they break their rules just enough to not jeopardize their weapons contracts.
Ltw at November 13, 2015 10:01 AM
I have this problem sometimes as a strict vegetarian, I like to invite but I know there are people who just won't eat a meatless meal.
So? make some meat.
My Aunt is a vegetarian, when I have her over I make a vegetarian main dish for her, unless she says she is bringing something.
When I am invited over there she makes a dish with some meat in it.
I dont understand why so many vegetarians/vegans are such whiny little cunts about cooking food.
I could care less if you dont want to eat it, but why all the fucking complaints?
News flash,
NOT eating meat means you are not a consumer in a position to demand better treatment of farm animals.
NOT eating meat, for most people, is not a sound heath decision
NOT eating meat requires eating more plants most of which do not grow naturally anywhere near you meaning it is WORSE for the environment
Also growing more plants requires the destruction of entire habitats and millions of animals
lujlp at November 13, 2015 10:06 AM
If you harbor a desire to visit Paris, do it soon, before it becomes a war zone.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/paris-rocked-by-shootings-explosions-dozens-reported-dead-2015-11-13?dist=afterbell&link=sfmw_fb
So much for having wine with dinner.
Conan the Grammarian at November 13, 2015 2:38 PM
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