Hey, You Can "Start A Conversation" Without Falsely Accusing Someone Of Racism -- Or Rape
Ashe Schow notes at the WashEx that there's a recent slew of false accusations in which the upshot is basically the same -- the perpetrators and/or others saying that at least it led to a "conversation":
In the recent race hoax at State University of New York at Albany, where three black women started a fight on a bus and accused a dozen white people of attacking them for being black, a professor at the school claimed they were justified because they started a conversation on race."My white students have said this has opened up conversations," said Sami Schalk, an assistant professor in SUNY Albany's English department. "Things that are inadvertent, small, but that these white students have no experience with, not being a person of color on this campus."
Criminal behavior -- and often, life-wrecking harm to the falsely accused, and it's okay because people are talking?
There are fair ways to get attention and they don't involve lying and claiming you're a victim and/or making an innocent person your pawn.
What these situations have in common is the notion that any tactic -- no matter how ethically bankrupt -- is justified, as long as it fits within SJW notions of views that need to be advanced.








"Justified"? What a weird perspective. These three young women may have ruined their own lives. (Not that I feel even the tiniest bit of sympathy for them.) But that's okay, because they started a dialogue?
From the article (because apparently Gregg has disabled blockquote): "My white students have said this has opened up conversations," said Sami Schalk, an assistant professor in SUNY Albany's English department."
But what kind of conversations could they be having? That some black people are so fucking consumed with their hatred of white people, that they are willing to attempt to get total strangers arrested and tarred as racists with false accusations?
How assholes like you, Professor Schalk, are willing to excuse inexcusable behavior if it supports the "fuck whitey" narrative?
Would those be any of the conversations that your white students would be having? And why is it so important that your white students are discussing this? Is this to suggest that this is some kind of teachable moment, and that white people need to learn something from this?
The only thing I take from this is something I already knew: that blacks can be just as racist and malicious as whites. If not moreso.
Patrick at March 18, 2016 12:47 AM
Remember when the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES invited a beat cop to the White House for a "conversation" over beer (green tea?) about some-damn-thing (I-fergit-what) during said President's first months in office?
I hate conversation.
Totally kidding!
What I hate is people, and talking to them, especially if they're liberal.
...Or conservative, or anyone who thinks a meaningful exchange of views and observations is supposed to be flattering. Or even comforting.
No... Dark planet. It hurts out there, and anyone who insists that it doesn't, or shouldn't, isn't someone we should have to "share" with.
Flo King died a few weeks ago.
Crid at March 18, 2016 1:06 AM
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Crid at March 18, 2016 1:07 AM
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Crid at March 18, 2016 1:07 AM
Remember when the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES invited a beat cop to the White House for a "conversation" over beer (green tea?) about some-damn-thing (I-fergit-what) during said President's first months in office?
I hate conversation.
Totally kidding!
What I hate is people, and talking to them, especially if they're liberal.
...Or conservative, or anyone who thinks a meaningful exchange of views and observations is supposed to be flattering. Or even comforting.
No... Dark planet. It hurts out there, and anyone who insists that it doesn't, or shouldn't, isn't someone we should have to "share" with.
Flo King died a few weeks ago.
Crid at March 18, 2016 1:11 AM
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Crid at March 18, 2016 1:12 AM
Of course their idea of conversation is really a one sided lecture.
A real conversation would start out with saying how wrong and common the race baiting is.
Joe J at March 18, 2016 2:30 AM
Guess it's just "black" privilege or maybe "black" culture? "What can you expect from 'those' people."
(Since I'm tarred w/the "old white man/white privilege" brush I can start using all of the '50's phrases WE taught ourselves and our children to not say/believe.)
Bob in Texas at March 18, 2016 4:55 AM
Not really. Not anymore. The culture has become so charged and hypersensitive that trying to initiate a civil conversation about a touchy subject is to have people reflexively label you an ...ist to avoid the subject.
As president of Harvard University, Laurence Summers tried to initiate a conversation on gender differences in the sciences and one in the audience professor said she almost fainted because of the sexism. He subsequently lost his job. She is still there.
Conan the Grammarian at March 18, 2016 5:24 AM
Time to update the 1950's racial epithets that us old white guys had to stop saying simply because they were (yes) racial and presumed to be untrue.
Instead of saying "Well, what can you expect from THOSE people.", say "It's black privilege."
You could say "As we've seen so many young blacks looting/destroying property, it's obvious that _____________ ".
"A lot of juveniles act out."
"The black culture, being so primitive and emotional, ____________ ."
I mean you can't make this stuff up. It happens in real life so frequently that you don't need to.
Bob in Texas at March 18, 2016 5:56 AM
Don't know what's going on with your site today, but the comment count on the main page shows (0) and no comments show up when you click on the link. However, going to Preview to enter a comment shows a whole mess of comments.
Any attempt to enter a comment is greeted with a rejection notice, but the comment is entered nonetheless.
Conan the Grammarian at March 18, 2016 6:05 AM
Testing. (Gregg's working on my mobile site.)
Amy Alkon at March 18, 2016 6:20 AM
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gregg at March 18, 2016 6:27 AM
When the Left says "conversation" or "dialogue", what they mean is: "We lecture and scold, and you shut up." The only things they're interested in hearing from other people are affirmations.
Cousin Dave at March 18, 2016 6:39 AM
Having worked in marketing and seen the obsession that businesses have in gaining Millennial patronage, I'd say we're sending them the wrong message.
With all the attention, we've taught Millenials that their viewpoint is the only one that matters. The show, Longmire was cancelled despite respectable ratings because its audience averaged over 50 years of age. Older viewers don't matter. Advertisers want younger viewers.
Growing up, I was part of a generational cohort that was small, so our views and desires were subjugated to the Baby Boomers. Millennials are now being taught that their views are the only ones that matter. That their wants and desires are valid. In politics, candidates are falling all over themselves to get the younger vote by showing how hip they are and how they'll "fix" the economy to get the under-educated Millenials jobs and free college.
The idea that years and experience count is being lost in the rush to placate a mob of angry twenty-somethings. Where past twenty-something generations had a sizable older cohort to act as role models and guides into adulthood, the current twenty-something generation gets to trample the older generation.
This started with the Baby Boom, which trampled the "Greatest Generation" in its rush to remake society, abetted by politicians and advertisers who ignored older generations in favor of getting the patronage of the largest generation any of them had ever seen, thus teaching them that they were the only voices that mattered. And it went to their heads.
And its happening again.
The idea that adulthood matters and is a desirable goal is being lost in the rush to sell to twenty-somethings. If you're >30 years old, advertisers don't want your eyeballs and politicians don't care about your vote.
We've taught our twenty-somethings that their ignorance is not only acceptable, but desirable.
Conan the Grammarian at March 18, 2016 7:34 AM
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gregg at March 18, 2016 8:12 AM
Crid,
Thanks for the heads up on Florence. I have been consumed with work lately and missed that she had passed. Since its Friday, I feel like I need to have a gin and tonic in memory of her.
Glad to have you back, btw. You've been missed!
Sheep mom at March 18, 2016 8:39 AM
Comments fixed! Everything fixed. Sorry about that - remaking site so it'll be readable in mobile. Gregg is getting there.
Amy Alkon at March 18, 2016 8:44 AM
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Crid at March 18, 2016 10:27 AM
Conan on March 18 at 7:34.
Man, you just describe why the current president election candidates are a bunch of children!
charles at March 18, 2016 12:25 PM
It's no excuse, but the attack and false charges do have the silver lining that they are starting a new and worthwhile dialogue about race: mainly, about the fact that all or nearly all claims by blacks of racism are false claims. Do more of the same, and more of your dupes will wise up and join our side.
jdgalt at March 19, 2016 10:51 AM
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