From my reading, most of those killed by police are white and male:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/breakdown-us-citizens-killed-cops-2016

There's just not the same outrage when a white person is killed by police as when a black person is. I've not heard of any riots or protests that follow a white man being killed by police.

Then there's this - per arrest, more Whites are killed by police than Blacks:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm8ZkWLUEAATdN1.jpg

The Dallas police chief and the president are right about society asking the police to do too much. We are asking out police to solve social problems, correct for a decaying education system, and act as counselors for behavioral problems. And to shoot those who would do us harm.

The other question is why all these young black men have dissociated themselves from society. What's missing in their lives? Why have they rejected civilization in favor of barbarity? Why have we lost them and how do we get them back?

Could it be fathers? Moynihan sounded the alarm when the fatherless rate of inner city African-Americans was 40%. Now, it's more than 70% ... and growing.

Nothing is going to change because no one wants to harp on personal responsibility.

Blacks and the police management have ignored the personal responsibility that is owed (yes, owed) to our society.

We do not live in a "might makes right" society because we impose personal responsibility on ourselves and expect the same of others.

Those that do not take care to act politely and responsibly create problems for all of us on a social level and on a professional level.

Money solves nothing if civil polite behavior is not the norm. No amount of equipment in a science or computer lab is going to overcome bad behavior by students towards others. (Didn't someone donate a billion(?) dollars to solve education problems somewhere?)

Management "protecting" a bullying cop will never overcome the hurt done by that bullying until that community sees that the bullying is punished by management as a matter of policy and not due to riots.

The same goes for the teaching community as well. How Blacks can support the Democratic party that is tied to a Teachers Union that has damaged their children is beyond my belief.

BLM should have been chastised for its language towards other human beings but instead has been coddled and funded (by whom and what?).

An educated trained community organizer knows this but has chosen the easy way out offered by a racist church pastor and a Leftist murderer mentor.

One of our Black church elders originally from Chicago spoke of how hard it was for him to ignore this non-stop message of hate/distrust. But his desire to save his children from that path drove him to ignore it by using his Christian principles to live his life by and expect the same of his children.

Obama is not the answer just as Sharpton is not. They promote continued racial strife by encourging low expectations of their fellow Blacks. The money/prestige is good for them and they have nothing if that is gone. They are not inspirational figures living by their words. (At least the Elmer Gantry(s) do that while they are hustling.)

Media is a tool used by them but should be used by local elders to point out the good that is being done every day by church volunteers, true community organizers instead of political ones, and just plain good people.

Peers chastising "bad behavior" quickly and decisively will go a long way towards solving this problem that in today's USA is a human one not a societal one. (See the ME and SE Asia for a glimpse of a societal problem.)

Nothing is going to change because no one wants to harp on personal responsibility.

Blacks and the police management have ignored the personal responsibility that is owed (yes, owed) to our society.

We do not live in a "might makes right" society because we impose personal responsibility on ourselves and expect the same of others.

Those that do not take care to act politely and responsibly create problems for all of us on a social level and on a professional level.

Money solves nothing if civil polite behavior is not the norm. No amount of equipment in a science or computer lab is going to overcome bad behavior by students towards others. (Didn't someone donate a billion(?) dollars to solve education problems somewhere?)

Management "protecting" a bullying cop will never overcome the hurt done by that bullying until that community sees that the bullying is punished by management as a matter of policy and not due to riots.

The same goes for the teaching community as well. How Blacks can support the Democratic party that is tied to a Teachers Union that has damaged their children is beyond my belief.

BLM should have been chastised for its language towards other human beings but instead has been coddled and funded (by whom and what?).

An educated trained community organizer knows this but has chosen the easy way out offered by a racist church pastor and a Leftist murderer mentor.

One of our Black church elders originally from Chicago spoke of how hard it was for him to ignore this non-stop message of hate/distrust. But his desire to save his children from that path drove him to ignore it by using his Christian principles to live his life by and expect the same of his children.

Obama is not the answer just as Sharpton is not. They promote continued racial strife by encourging low expectations of their fellow Blacks. The money/prestige is good for them and they have nothing if that is gone. They are not inspirational figures living by their words. (At least the Elmer Gantry(s) do that while they are hustling.)

Media is a tool used by them but should be used by local elders to point out the good that is being done every day by church volunteers, true community organizers instead of political ones, and just plain good people.

Peers chastising "bad behavior" quickly and decisively will go a long way towards solving this problem that in today's USA is a human one not a societal one. (See the ME and SE Asia for a glimpse of a societal problem.)

I do not believe police are mudering young black men. I think they're potentially scared of young black men (and that's for very good reason-even black people are scared of young black men. And again-with good reason), and making split-second judgements that arent always good ones. I do think BLM is racist. If black lives mattered, they wouldn't murder and abort each other with such abandon. Until they're ready to address THEIR behavior that makes others fearful, they can go sit and spin, as far as I'm concerned.

That good or bad public school based on address is not a product of school spending.

Bad schools get more money. They have a host of bad policies, inept administrators, and regressive progressives making poor decisions. Maybe they just have bad teachers, too, since they get a lot more money for teachers.

https://www.mackinac.org/depts/epi/fiscal.aspx

2014-2015 School Year
Detroit City Schools vs. Haslett Community Schools (a typical, suburban outstate school district)

Per-pupil total spending:
Detroit City Schools: $18.6k per student
Haslett: $12.3k per student

Per-pupil spending, instruction
Detroit City Schools: $7.7k
Haslett: $5.9k

Have I cherry-picked Haslett? Let's go to the wealthiest "white" city in Michigan, Birmingham.

Detroit outspends Birmingham per pupil $800 (Birmingham has $17.8k per student total spending, in the richest, most valuable land in the state of Michigan...)

Birmingham, however, invests in its students: $9.8k goes to instruction per pupil.

So, more "investment" in education is the dumbest idea possible. Attaching some strings to that federal money to keep the non-pupil spending ratio below 50% might be a good idea, but failing schools don't need one more dollar - they need a whole lot fewer make-work friend-of-the-local-politician administrators. They are rolling in money.

The Dallas police chief and the president are right about society asking the police to do too much. We are asking out police to solve social problems, correct for a decaying education system, and act as counselors for behavioral problems. And to shoot those who would do us harm.

Agreed. I think cops and teachers are increasingly asked to pick up the slack from slack-ass parents.

I was very impressed by Chief Brown's speech.

". . . misdeeds committed by agents of the state are categorically different from the same acts committed by normal citizens."

True, and that is exactly why what we know for sure about Clinton's use of a private server should weigh heavily against her, while whatever Trump did or didn't do as a private citizen -- a well-known one, but still not an agent of the state -- in the course of making real estate deals is comparatively unimportant.

When there is someone too drunk/stoned/crazy to comply with someone shouting at them, this does not justify beating them or shooting them. Learn how to handle non-compliant but not yet dangerous people. Someone standing there with a baseball bat or knife is someone you can talk to, not shoot. There have even been crazy/stoned naked people jumping around in the street who were shot--pretty clearly no concealed weapon.
As far as young black men, there is a sad gansta culture that has them convinced that they cannot succeed in the white world, so gangs and shooting are their only recourse--the proof that this is not true is how many black women become educated because looking nice and reading a book are not frowned upon so much for the girls. It might surprise these young men to find out how long and hard white people have to work to get "rich" (of course not all do...). There was a hilarious video of a young black man who put on a coat and tie (not even a suit) and was filmed going around and it blew his mind that people treated him differently (nicer)--well, then, try that!! Not that hard, really. I know lots of immigrants who HAVE gone out of their way to dress nicely and be polite and work longer hours and even with a thick accent they have done well. Culture culture culture more than "racism" is what is going on here.

A bunch of good comments here. Thank you all for some good insight.

This interactive link may reveal why African Americans are so worried about police brutality. It lists the killings by police officers. You will notice that it includes all races. Now note the people that are highlighted in yellow. Those are the cases where it appears that the killings may be unjustified.

To my possibly poor count it was 5 blacks, 1 Hispanic, and 1 white. Now think about our population.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database

...Is it really so unfathomable that African-American citizens should be outraged or distrustful of government when they have good reason to believe the state is murdering young black men?

When stats show cop actually kill more white people than black, the answer is yes

"The nation underinvests in education, allows poverty to fester and floods communities with guns, Obama said -- and then expects police to be social workers, teachers, drug counselors and parents and to "keep those neighborhoods in check.""

USA Today isn't being "surprisingly honest" or any other kind of honest in this statement. "The nation" is NOT "flooding" communities with guns - and USA Today is right there with fans of big government in advocating that the only solution is to disarm people, while they continue to teach that poverty is the reason for violence.

Hell, no, it's not the reason: being taught that food, shelter and money come from the government is the reason.

I live in South Carolina. I can show you entire townsful of poor people that have no intention of shooting their neighbors or burning their homes, cars or town because they earned what they have.

Who the hell is "the nation" anyway? It's the government, pure and simple, which is intent on gathering power via dependency, regulation and law.

TODAY, in the person of Hillary Clinton, it is telling you that you can be safe, secure, healthy, prosperous and happy, totally FREE of worry if you just vote for her, and CNN at least is carrying her water just as they did Obama's eight years ago. That's business as usual.

15 years ago, as reported by Enterprise magazine:

In the statistics published for 1991 by the Justice Department, there were 100 rapes committed by whites against blacks but 20,204 rapes committed by blacks against whites. As for robberies, 7,031 involved a white perpetrator and a black victim while 167,924 robberies involved a black perpetrator and a white victim.
White assaults of blacks were 49,800, but black assaults of whites were 431,670. In the category of all violent crimes, 55,301 involved white perpetrators and black victims; 572,458 violent crimes involved black perpetrators and white victims.

Even if a Klansman banged the gavel NINE out of TEN TIMES, blacks still commit more crime!

Here's the capper: Conviction rates were lower for blacks than for whites in 12 of 14 felony categories.

Start the excuses.

""He wants people to focus on the fact that most black murder victims die at the hands of other blacks. That's true, and tragic, and fairly irrelevant.""

Black Lives Matter + vast amount of black lives violently extinguished are done by other black people = irrelevant.
Never mind dismissing one of the few media personalities having the stones to actually speak the truth, ahem, Jonah disregarding that statistic doomed a point otherwise worthy of.......well worthy in that pie in the sky, if everything worked perfectly kind of way.
Yes Johan poverty, parenting, establishment apathy/corruption are some if not all of the underpinnings of the problem. And if everyone were given a fishing pole and a book on how to fish we would eliminate hunger.
We have a major problem right now. Black Lives Matter is a political movement attempting to accomplish nothing except to gain political power and make social change that entrenches their political power/ideology (it certainly is not about stopping the far too high number of violent deaths of Black Americans). That ideology is born of that college safe space anti speech that for years most on this blog have been calling out as dangerous (you do remember that??).
That is the reality, a reality that is trending toward becoming more and more entrenched in the tomorrow.

Jonah and the vast majority of those in his profession are part of the problem. USA Today, cited here, and the vast majority of the entities of this profession are most certainly part of the problem. Hopefully their power will be diminished (as in more and more people disregard them) to a tangible degree very soon.

Crazy suggestion: when a group acts overtly racist they are called racist (what stripe they are has no bearing). When a group overtly calls for violence they are called violent. When a group claims to want X(for example, stop violent deaths), they should be called out on what they are actually doing about stopping as much of X as possible. If enough of the people and entities of this "profession" would adhere to these simple rules (aka integrity) (they can certainly add their bellowing too), in a relatively short period of time a dent could be made. Instead this "profession" (aka part of the problem) is too busy churning their words through the PC-safe space-ideological-validation blender (the crowd favorite being the quick apology for not writing/talking the right thing). While a vote for trump may ultimately not fix much, as an outsider it is inherently a gamble, considering the trend I'm very comfortable with the gamble over the rubber stamp of 'more of the same' college safe space, anti speech crap. I'm surprised to see how many here think otherwise.

"Gamble" for what? The guy's got an attention span of twenty seconds, after which he's thinking about his own most personal interests.

Saying 'He's not Hillary' isn't enough.

Why in the name of Sweet Baby Jesus would anyone think Donald Trump would, or even could serve the United States from the office of its government's chief executive?




PS- Where's Maples while all this is going on?

"Saying 'He's not Hillary' isn't enough."

Of course it isn't, but with a binary choice, it is all we have got.

We certainly can chafe at a system that gives us two such flawed candidates, but I will "chose the form of my destructor " rather than sitting back secure in a smug moral superiority bubble, unsullied by the dirty world of politics watching the Democratic Party fraud machine kick the terrorism, immigration, and money printing cans down the road for the next eight years.

An inevitable train wreck has been set in motion. I don't feel like rewarding the party that set the brick on the accelerator.

"Saying 'He's not Hillary' isn't enough."

Actually, it is. He just has to be a bit better than her. As Isab points out, it's a binary choice.