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Toto! Take me back to yacht rock and incomprehensibly bathetic lyrics!
"Why Pokémon Go Represents The Best Of Capitalism"
I guess it would depend on whom you ask. For instance, you could ask this lovely British lass, whose wedding venue turned out to be a Pokémon GO gym, whatever that is.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com)
at July 16, 2016 7:43 AM
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com)
at July 16, 2016 7:49 AM
Re the question "who pays for dates," Glenn Sacks said, years ago, that the rule of "whoever invites, pays" isn't fair to men since men are expected to do most of the asking anyway.
Carolyn Hax, in 2010, tackled this well. If only she'd forward it to Glenn...
The only way any of us can change anything outside ourselves is to make changes inside. If you want women to pick up some checks, then date self-supporting, independent-minded women — or just date women who are givers, not takers, by nature. If a woman continually sits on her hands while you pay, then stop seeing her...
(There are six more paragraphs.)
Some good comments:
randomnickname 7/13/2016 12:36 AM EDT
Yes, there are lots of us out there who are happy to take turns paying and driving, who have zero interest in diamonds or other fancy jewelry, and are even willing to risk approaching a guy we're interested in. However, in my experience, we also tend to lean heavily to women who want our partner to regard our career as equal to theirs, and are going to be right in there with the housework and child care and all the other stuff that's traditionally considered women's work. And maybe a little less towards spending an enormous effort looking as hot as possible in order to attract a guy.
So it's worth looking closely at how you're picking the women you're asking out, and what qualities you consider the most important.
I have a friend that frequently complains about how expensive dating is. But I don't think I've ever seen him even approach a woman who was his equal in age, career and/or income, preferring to pursue young and cute.
hbc1 7/13/2016 5:24 AM EDT
On the "looking hot" one, I've had a couple of guy acquaintances who moaned about how long their girlfriends took to get ready for outings. I was like, "When you choose someone who looks like that, she's going to be spending a lot of time in the bathroom primping and plucking and dying and whatnot. I'm not saying I'd clean up as nice as her, but you're going to end up with someone who looks a lot more like me if you value short prep time."
CricketC 7/13/2016 8:34 AM EDT
And all that is expensive, so if a guy in one of his three suits that he can get away with anywhere (and repeatedly) insists on a woman with clothes and shoes to match any occasion, perfect make-up, and a hundred-dollar haircut, he doesn't get to complain about the cost of going out in general.
I am absolutely appalled sometimes when I hear how much some of that stuff costs - I never wore much make-up or jewelry, and wear none now, ninety percent of the time, but holy cow - that stuff ain't cheap.
candle96 7/13/2016 10:39 AM EDT
Exactly. Traditionally, a man may pay more on a date, but the woman has probably paid more getting ready for the date.
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Sixclaws at July 16, 2016 6:14 AM
Toto! Take me back to yacht rock and incomprehensibly bathetic lyrics!
"Why Pokémon Go Represents The Best Of Capitalism"
I guess it would depend on whom you ask. For instance, you could ask this lovely British lass, whose wedding venue turned out to be a Pokémon GO gym, whatever that is.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at July 16, 2016 7:43 AM
Note to museum management and staff: If you display a £67,000 piece of artwork that looks just like a crossword puzzle, don't be surprised if a little old lady...
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at July 16, 2016 7:49 AM
Re the question "who pays for dates," Glenn Sacks said, years ago, that the rule of "whoever invites, pays" isn't fair to men since men are expected to do most of the asking anyway.
Carolyn Hax, in 2010, tackled this well. If only she'd forward it to Glenn...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/who-pays-one-way-or-the-other-everybody/2016/07/12/c40be07e-4544-11e6-bc99-7d269f8719b1_story.html?tid=hybrid_collaborative_2_na#comments
Her first paragraph:
The only way any of us can change anything outside ourselves is to make changes inside. If you want women to pick up some checks, then date self-supporting, independent-minded women — or just date women who are givers, not takers, by nature. If a woman continually sits on her hands while you pay, then stop seeing her...
(There are six more paragraphs.)
Some good comments:
randomnickname 7/13/2016 12:36 AM EDT
Yes, there are lots of us out there who are happy to take turns paying and driving, who have zero interest in diamonds or other fancy jewelry, and are even willing to risk approaching a guy we're interested in. However, in my experience, we also tend to lean heavily to women who want our partner to regard our career as equal to theirs, and are going to be right in there with the housework and child care and all the other stuff that's traditionally considered women's work. And maybe a little less towards spending an enormous effort looking as hot as possible in order to attract a guy.
So it's worth looking closely at how you're picking the women you're asking out, and what qualities you consider the most important.
I have a friend that frequently complains about how expensive dating is. But I don't think I've ever seen him even approach a woman who was his equal in age, career and/or income, preferring to pursue young and cute.
hbc1 7/13/2016 5:24 AM EDT
On the "looking hot" one, I've had a couple of guy acquaintances who moaned about how long their girlfriends took to get ready for outings. I was like, "When you choose someone who looks like that, she's going to be spending a lot of time in the bathroom primping and plucking and dying and whatnot. I'm not saying I'd clean up as nice as her, but you're going to end up with someone who looks a lot more like me if you value short prep time."
CricketC 7/13/2016 8:34 AM EDT
And all that is expensive, so if a guy in one of his three suits that he can get away with anywhere (and repeatedly) insists on a woman with clothes and shoes to match any occasion, perfect make-up, and a hundred-dollar haircut, he doesn't get to complain about the cost of going out in general.
I am absolutely appalled sometimes when I hear how much some of that stuff costs - I never wore much make-up or jewelry, and wear none now, ninety percent of the time, but holy cow - that stuff ain't cheap.
candle96 7/13/2016 10:39 AM EDT
Exactly. Traditionally, a man may pay more on a date, but the woman has probably paid more getting ready for the date.
lenona at July 16, 2016 8:40 AM
Fun-Hating Socialist Magazine Jacobin Says PokemonGo Must Be Destroyed
mpetrie98 at July 16, 2016 10:36 AM
On the bright side, it's making people excercise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF60C5M49Ug
Sixclaws at July 16, 2016 12:54 PM
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