Oh, and for anyone new around here, I loathe both Hillary and Trump, but, as for my vote, say, "at least Hillary's a corrupt adult."

First, let's circle back and focus on that "corrupt" part.

Trump not paying contractors is what some might call bad business. Hillary getting paid by a foreign power for State Department approval of a business deal that has implications for US national security is what some might call treason.

Sorry, I forgot that Clinton's campaign manager maintains that no one "has ever produced a shred of evidence supporting the theory that Hillary Clinton ever took action as secretary of state to support the interests of donors to the Clinton Foundation." When Clintons talk of shreds of evidence it means they've shredded the evidence.

Let's take another look at the business deal behind the Uranium One fiasco. The Obama administration and its Secretary of State, Clinton, were anxious to "reset" relations with Russia. So, they gave the Russians control over 20% of US uranium production. Once he had played the "corrupt adult," Putin annexed Crimea and bullied Ukraine. So, Hillary gave away one fifth of our uranium and got nothing for the country in return (she did get large donations to her Foundation).

Trump will at least have adult handlers. Mike Pence and Kellyanne Conway seem to have gotten some control over the runaway mouth that is The Donald.

Who's handling Hillary? Cheryl Mills spent her time working at both the State Department and at the Clinton Foundation while the Russian money was rolling in (no conflict of interest there). Huma Abedin worked for a radical Muslim magazine before finding her way onto Clinton's staff. And with a husband like "Carlos Danger," she's got potential blackmail victim written all over her.

Now, as for the "adult" part of your evaluation of Hillary. She's known for pitching screaming tantrums and for throwing things at people who upset her. She treats her Secret Service detail like minimum wage lackeys. She exaggerates things to make herself look good (sniper fire in Bosnia, anyone?). Abedin's e-mails indicate a woman who is "often confused" and in need of handholding in dealing with foreign leaders.

Oh yeah, this is who you want to put in charge of our national security, the "corrupt adult."

So it's $10/hr to intern at Reason. That seems quite fair. And Slate only recently decided to match due to political pressure?

A lot of businesses have only recently been shamed into this--especially ones who argued for a $15 minimum wage.

Remy awesomely called out Funny or Die:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjGGS5L8NhU

(This is a rebuttal to their Mary Poppins parody about a living wage.)

When colleges go to a blind admissions policy based on grades and teat scores, 90 percent of these internships are going to disappear. (I know I'm dreaming because internships are mostly a kabuki for the well connected)

Either for college or grad school admission.

In most businesses there is nothing of value that an intern can contribute to the bottom line. The students in question would be better served as a line cook for McDonalds.

If they are there to learn, like college, than there is no reason for the intern to be compensated, anymore than they should be compensated for attending school.

Conan, here's another tid-bit:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/new-abedin-emails-reveal-hillary-clinton-state-department-gave-special-access-top-clinton-foundation-donors/

The 70s called - the 1870s - and they want their corruption back.

teat scores

*must not laugh must not **snork***

But appropriate, since college is just nursey school with beer.

Internships can be like an educational opportunity, and as such they need not necessarily get paid. It also gives the student some job experience. What does the company get out of it? If they like the person, they may hire them. If not, they have no obligation and are not at risk for being called a bad employer for firing a new hire. It lets them take a chance on someone who has no experience and is likely to be a bad risk to hire. People demanding that interns always get paid ignore that those interns took the job voluntarily, that they often lead to jobs, and that the students get valuable experience to put on their cv. Are some students exploited? Of course, but so are some employers.

teat scores

*must not laugh must not **snork***

But appropriate, since college is just nursey school with beer.

I R A Darth Aggie at August 22, 2016 11:37 AM

Poor typing leads to gaff.

I am glad you are reading my posta more carefully than I do.

I had not considered the $10/hr internship in light of the $15/hr min wage people. More leading from behind I guess.

Most engineering internships are paid and have been for quite some time. Most EE internships pay roughly $20/hr. The employers aren't looking for valuable work. It takes ~6 mo to bring a BS EE up to speed and get money out of their work. So a 3 mo stint just isn't going to get anything profitable done. Instead the internship is viewed more as an extended job interview. They get to see who you are and how you do things while you get the same. Since it takes so long to get value out of most engineers it makes sense to pay for the long interview and thus avoid some of the expense of firing some of the inevitable horse apples universities graduate.

Hi there! Didja notice that the "corrupt adult" just tried to blame her classified e-mail woes on Colin Powell? Of course he called her on it.

Blaming others. Yeah, that's an adult.

Meanwhile... imagine somebody had called Donald Trump and told him somebody was trying to kill our ambassador...

"Oh, and for anyone new around here, I loathe both Hillary and Trump, but, as for my vote, say, "at least Hillary's a corrupt adult."

Amy, THE SUPREME COURT IS AT STAKE!
I also loathe both candidates, however, if you want to live under at least semblance of a constitutional republic, you have to hold your nose and vote for Trump.

All it takes is a couple more Statist justices and we are screwed beyond belief.

The supreme court is the main issue this election cycle.

http://reason.com/blog/2016/08/01/is-scotus-a-good-reason-to-support-trump

This is the latest I could find on Congress and the White House not paying their interns.

http://thefederalist.com/2015/05/11/unpaid-internships-do-as-congress-says-not-as-it-does/

Most engineering internships are paid and have been for quite some time.

My EE internship paid the equivalent of $36,000/yr in 1992. It covered my senior year of college.

Mine didn't pay near that much, but it was in 1982. It paid enough so that I could pay my tuition, not starve, and have enough money to pay for an apartment after the school ran out of housing.

[i]In most businesses there is nothing of value that an intern can contribute to the bottom line. The students in question would be better served as a line cook for McDonalds.

If they are there to learn, like college, than there is no reason for the intern to be compensated, anymore than they should be compensated for attending school.[/i]
@Isab
If an intern is filing paperwork, making copies and fetching coffee, they are contributing to the bottomline. Maybe not a normally salaried employee, but at least the minimum wage, since they are doing a secretary's job. It frees up salaried workers' time to focus on whatever business they do.

I actually am not opposed to unpaid internships because I think salary negotiations should be between the person and the potential employer, unless something truly criminal is taking place. My beef is the very people that promote these unpaid internships are often the very people that are pushing for hikes in the minimum wage and the living wage. It also doesn't help that these interns are saddled with a huge amount of debt from their (probably worthless) degrees, so they have to postpone paying off that debt for an internship that in the long run, won't do much for their careers (internships actually have little bearing on finding a job in the chosen field). Nor would any of these places take a kid just doing the internship and not going to college or even community college.

"In most businesses there is nothing of value that an intern can contribute to the bottom line. The students in question would be better served as a line cook for McDonalds.

If they are there to learn, like college, than there is no reason for the intern to be compensated, anymore than they should be compensated for attending school."
@Isab
If an intern is filing paperwork, making copies and fetching coffee, they are contributing to the bottomline. Maybe not a normally salaried employee, but at least the minimum wage, since they are doing a secretary's job. It frees up salaried workers' time to focus on whatever business they do.

I actually am not opposed to unpaid internships because I think salary negotiations should be between the person and the potential employer, unless something truly criminal is taking place. My beef is the very people that promote these unpaid internships are often the very people that are pushing for hikes in the minimum wage and the living wage. It also doesn't help that these interns are saddled with a huge amount of debt from their (probably worthless) degrees, so they have to postpone paying off that debt for an internship that in the long run, won't do much for their careers (internships actually have little bearing on finding a job in the chosen field). Nor would any of these places take a kid just doing the internship and not going to college or just community college.