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Wuddenat be great?... If they started coming out of the woodwork?
Crid
at October 16, 2016 5:53 AM
Indeed an excellent point:
What self respecting woman would admit that no man had ever made an unwanted sexual advance toward her? She’d be admitting either that no man’s ever made her a sexual advance or that she’s never met a sexual advance she didn’t like.
So the latest "accuser" says trump grabbed her and kissed her. Isn't that how our Gregg got our lovely hostess? I'm ashamed to be female. Despise Trump if you want, but let's not water down sexual assault by claiming what he did qualifies.
You may say Clinton is a corrupt adult, but at least Trump is corrupt within the letter of the law. Clinton a knowledge no law as applying to her.
momof4
at October 16, 2016 7:57 AM
acknowledges no law.....
momof4
at October 16, 2016 8:16 AM
You got me.
I have at times kissed and caressed women (sometimes successfully). A few were _________ at my actions. They were not decades younger than me or my employee.
Decades ago I said some ugly things about ________.
Hope the 20 year old children that still live at home can forgive me.
The other "adults" can GFT since they have conveniently forgotten that they at one time or another said ugly things or attempted some sort of "seduction" (using etchings, drugs, or spiked tea).
Bob in Texas
at October 16, 2016 9:38 AM
I recall various conversations about how women are routinely NOT prosecuted for raping men, some here found that abhorrent, some felt it was fine as women cant be held to the same standards as men as equality is sexist or something
Well, now a court has overturned a conviction of a woman who raped other women because, reasons
So now I guess we know. The notion that females dont rape is more important that actual rape victims
If former president Bill Clinton had been campaigning and serving now, instead of then, everything would have been different. The women with whom he had affairs, and those who accused him of assault, would not have been so easily dismissed. Monica Lewinsky would not have been crucified, forever defined by what she did when she was a 22 and he was leader of the free world.
If then was now, maybe Hillary Clinton would have acted differently, too. Maybe she would not have sat by her husband in that humiliating “60 Minutes” interview in 1992, or continued to stick by him later. Maybe she would not have tried to discredit his accusers, as her critics claim she did. Maybe, too, she wouldn’t have blamed herself for his infidelities, as a friend’s account suggested she had.
Trying to discredit those alleging sexual assault — suggesting they were promiscuous, that they took too long to come forward, that they didn’t fight back — would have been as deplorable then as it is now. Trump is currently teaching a master class on all of this, his victim-shaming growing as extreme and unhinged as the rest of his campaign repertoire.
These are unsettling times. It’s hard to tell if Trump is the start of something truly awful, or its last gasp.
But when it comes to the rights of women, and especially those of assault victims, this bully has become the unlikeliest of catalysts for progress. The more he talks, the less hospitable the world becomes for men like him.
That’s my silver lining, and I’m clinging to it.
(end)
This comment caught my eye (in response to another comment):
By jb98110/15/16 10:02 PM
...Also, in case you don't realize it, the same sanctimonious hypocrites who crucified (Bill Clinton) now consider Trump's behavior "acceptable ".
...Is there one sector of society he has yet to maul? Until this week, it was the denial wing of his own party, those “leaders” who looked the other way while their leader walked all over the Constitution.
But those who take pleasure in watching Trump destroy the Republican Party are missing the bigger picture. He’s trying to destroy the country, as well. Civility, always a tenuous thing, cannot be quickly restored in a society that has learned to hate in public, at full throttle.
Trump has made compassion suspect. Don’t reach out to starving refugees — they’re killers in disguise. Don’t give to a charity that won’t reward you in some way. Don’t pay taxes that build roads and offer relief to those washed away in a hurricane. That’s a sucker’s game. We’re not all in this together. Taxes are for stupid people.
Every sexual predator now has a defender at the top of the Republican ticket. The most remarkable thing about last Sunday’s debate was Anderson Cooper having to school a 70-year-old man on workplace taboos that most of us learn on our first job...
(There are more than 1300 comments.)
lenona
at October 16, 2016 12:13 PM
for lenona - how half of America lost its fucking mind.
the same sanctimonious hypocrites who crucified (Bill Clinton)
He was rightly castigated and impeached for lying under oath and obstruction of justice. Now, if you don't give a shit if the chief law enforcement officer engages in such behaviour, then you also shouldn't give a shit what Trump may or may not have engaged in 30+ years ago.
Was going to joke it was done by Trump supporters but ...
Bob in Texas
at October 16, 2016 6:30 PM
for lenona - how half of America lost its fucking mind.
___________________________________________
Which half?
Also, it's not true that "no one talks about" those reasons for Trump's rise. Michael Moore did that pretty sympathetically in July with "5 Reasons Why Trump Will Win":
Of course, I wouldn't be too surprised if MM turns out to be heavily responsible for Trump's losing - I already knew that was his intent, of course.
Oh, and from the Alternet link at the bottom:
(By Alexandra Rosenmann)
"It's worth investigating the yearlong conundrum of why poor, middle-America voters identify so well with an egocentric real estate mogul from New York. 'When you say he hasn't read a book in his adult life, you've just described the majority of Americans. Get out of your bubble, everybody!' Moore urged."
2013: Think of the children.
Crid at October 16, 2016 5:51 AM
The Fuck?
Wuddenat be great?... If they started coming out of the woodwork?
Crid at October 16, 2016 5:53 AM
Indeed an excellent point:
Crid at October 16, 2016 6:04 AM
As long as we're thinking of teh chidwin....
Crid at October 16, 2016 6:21 AM
But.. These faith schools teach nothing but peace and understanding!
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/10/14/school-that-expelled-pupils-for-being-gay-closed-down/
Sixclaws at October 16, 2016 6:25 AM
San Marino team scores first world cup away goal in 15 years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVf35u9sBTw
...must be like playing for Charlie Brown's team
Stinky the Clown at October 16, 2016 7:40 AM
So the latest "accuser" says trump grabbed her and kissed her. Isn't that how our Gregg got our lovely hostess? I'm ashamed to be female. Despise Trump if you want, but let's not water down sexual assault by claiming what he did qualifies.
You may say Clinton is a corrupt adult, but at least Trump is corrupt within the letter of the law. Clinton a knowledge no law as applying to her.
momof4 at October 16, 2016 7:57 AM
acknowledges no law.....
momof4 at October 16, 2016 8:16 AM
You got me.
I have at times kissed and caressed women (sometimes successfully). A few were _________ at my actions. They were not decades younger than me or my employee.
Decades ago I said some ugly things about ________.
Hope the 20 year old children that still live at home can forgive me.
The other "adults" can GFT since they have conveniently forgotten that they at one time or another said ugly things or attempted some sort of "seduction" (using etchings, drugs, or spiked tea).
Bob in Texas at October 16, 2016 9:38 AM
I recall various conversations about how women are routinely NOT prosecuted for raping men, some here found that abhorrent, some felt it was fine as women cant be held to the same standards as men as equality is sexist or something
Well, now a court has overturned a conviction of a woman who raped other women because, reasons
So now I guess we know. The notion that females dont rape is more important that actual rape victims
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/10/12/court-quashes-conviction-of-woman-accused-of-duping-friend-into-lesbian-sex-with-male-persona/
lujlp at October 16, 2016 10:21 AM
Yes, Amy, western civilization as we have known it is doomed:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/14/university-florida-offers-counseling-for-students-troubled-by-halloween-costumes.html
I R A Darth Aggie at October 16, 2016 10:33 AM
Well, now a court has overturned a conviction of a woman who raped other women because, reasons
Come on, she felt like being a man that day. Don't be #TransPhobic, you reprobate!
I R A Darth Aggie at October 16, 2016 10:36 AM
NSFW because you'll see a man's butt enhanced with um, butt implants.
http://cocktailsandcocktalk.com/2016/10/former-fox-anchor-man-is-now-a-gay-daddy-porn-star-but-insists-its-not-a-mid-life-crisis/
Sixclaws at October 16, 2016 10:44 AM
By Yvonne Abraham:
"Finding a silver lining in the savage world of Donald Trump"
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/10/15/looking-for-silver-lining-world-trump/XYjjKipq0NdGggdh1C9O5H/story.html#comments
Last paragraphs:
If former president Bill Clinton had been campaigning and serving now, instead of then, everything would have been different. The women with whom he had affairs, and those who accused him of assault, would not have been so easily dismissed. Monica Lewinsky would not have been crucified, forever defined by what she did when she was a 22 and he was leader of the free world.
If then was now, maybe Hillary Clinton would have acted differently, too. Maybe she would not have sat by her husband in that humiliating “60 Minutes” interview in 1992, or continued to stick by him later. Maybe she would not have tried to discredit his accusers, as her critics claim she did. Maybe, too, she wouldn’t have blamed herself for his infidelities, as a friend’s account suggested she had.
Trying to discredit those alleging sexual assault — suggesting they were promiscuous, that they took too long to come forward, that they didn’t fight back — would have been as deplorable then as it is now. Trump is currently teaching a master class on all of this, his victim-shaming growing as extreme and unhinged as the rest of his campaign repertoire.
These are unsettling times. It’s hard to tell if Trump is the start of something truly awful, or its last gasp.
But when it comes to the rights of women, and especially those of assault victims, this bully has become the unlikeliest of catalysts for progress. The more he talks, the less hospitable the world becomes for men like him.
That’s my silver lining, and I’m clinging to it.
(end)
This comment caught my eye (in response to another comment):
By jb98110/15/16 10:02 PM
...Also, in case you don't realize it, the same sanctimonious hypocrites who crucified (Bill Clinton) now consider Trump's behavior "acceptable ".
Plenty of hypocrisy to go around here, folks.
lenona at October 16, 2016 12:06 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/opinion/burning-down-the-house.html
By Timothy Egan.
Excerpts:
...Is there one sector of society he has yet to maul? Until this week, it was the denial wing of his own party, those “leaders” who looked the other way while their leader walked all over the Constitution.
But those who take pleasure in watching Trump destroy the Republican Party are missing the bigger picture. He’s trying to destroy the country, as well. Civility, always a tenuous thing, cannot be quickly restored in a society that has learned to hate in public, at full throttle.
Trump has made compassion suspect. Don’t reach out to starving refugees — they’re killers in disguise. Don’t give to a charity that won’t reward you in some way. Don’t pay taxes that build roads and offer relief to those washed away in a hurricane. That’s a sucker’s game. We’re not all in this together. Taxes are for stupid people.
Every sexual predator now has a defender at the top of the Republican ticket. The most remarkable thing about last Sunday’s debate was Anderson Cooper having to school a 70-year-old man on workplace taboos that most of us learn on our first job...
(There are more than 1300 comments.)
lenona at October 16, 2016 12:13 PM
for lenona - how half of America lost its fucking mind.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/
Dave B at October 16, 2016 1:33 PM
the same sanctimonious hypocrites who crucified (Bill Clinton)
He was rightly castigated and impeached for lying under oath and obstruction of justice. Now, if you don't give a shit if the chief law enforcement officer engages in such behaviour, then you also shouldn't give a shit what Trump may or may not have engaged in 30+ years ago.
I R A Darth Aggie at October 16, 2016 2:02 PM
momof4 - the left is pulling out all stops
We were warned https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/780541845822582784
Dave B at October 16, 2016 2:20 PM
Western Civ is dead, part XXLI:
http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/14/watch-leftist-students-say-science-is-ra
I R A Darth Aggie at October 16, 2016 3:39 PM
would have been as deplorable then as it is now.
What a load of shit, even now liberals are engaging in that deplorable behavior against B Clinton's accusers
lujlp at October 16, 2016 3:47 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/10/16/north-carolina-gop-office-firebombed/92211622/
Was going to joke it was done by Trump supporters but ...
Bob in Texas at October 16, 2016 6:30 PM
for lenona - how half of America lost its fucking mind.
___________________________________________
Which half?
Also, it's not true that "no one talks about" those reasons for Trump's rise. Michael Moore did that pretty sympathetically in July with "5 Reasons Why Trump Will Win":
http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
See reasons 1 and 5 in particular.
Of course, I wouldn't be too surprised if MM turns out to be heavily responsible for Trump's losing - I already knew that was his intent, of course.
Oh, and from the Alternet link at the bottom:
(By Alexandra Rosenmann)
"It's worth investigating the yearlong conundrum of why poor, middle-America voters identify so well with an egocentric real estate mogul from New York. 'When you say he hasn't read a book in his adult life, you've just described the majority of Americans. Get out of your bubble, everybody!' Moore urged."
(There are almost 1300 comments on that article.)
lenona at October 17, 2016 10:16 AM
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