BLM started off as a hate group and has morphed into an elitist left financed group that does not even realize it advocates anarchy.

MSM gives them a pass (just like Obama's miserable economic record for blacks) because it fits their bias. (What "white" group would get praise for advocating death to anyone.)

Hell, even their manifesto reads like a children's essay on why they deserve cupcakes for breakfast.

Behold the wages of welfare. It starts when the husbands and fathers get pushed out of the culture, as the women conclude (very logically, from their standpoint) that marrying the state is a better deal. Once that happens, you no longer have men; you only have overgrown boys with guns. Whether it's happening to blacks in the ruins of inner-city St. Louis, or whites in the beat-up trailers out in the sticks of Marshall County, Alabama, it's the same phenomenon.

If the social cons were on their game, the horrendous negative effects of long-term welfare would be their #1 issue.

Better K-12 education would go a long way to solving the problem of inequality. That task is far from simple, but is a big part of the puzzle.

"Better K-12 education would go a long way to solving the problem of inequality."

Actually, it probably won't. Every study I've seen that removes the bias of having different parents pretty much conclude that teachers and schools don't really matter. It is almost all parents and their cultural values.

And more money for schools is negatively correlated with outcomes. I.e. spending more gets worse results.

Well, Jesse Jackson has at least one very good reason for not putting down mothers who give birth out of wedlock. HIS late mother was one. She was a teen at the time.

Granted, he didn't exactly grow up fatherless. From Wikipedia:

"One year after Jesse's birth, his mother married Charles Henry Jackson, a post office maintenance worker who later adopted the boy. Jesse was given his stepfather's name in the adoption, but as he grew up, he also maintained a close relationship with (Noah Louis) Robinson. He considered both men to be his father."

Considering Robinson was in his 30s and already married before JJ was born, that surprises me.

It is hard to understand, surely all us white folks are right when we say black people don't care about black on black crime.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-black-crime-glanton-talk-20151206-story.html

Well No comprendo it's obvious by how much effort and time they put into helping the police solve the crimes/murders committed.

Oh wait. That's "snitching" to the youth and a horrible thing to do. So the elderly keep quiet (out of fear of their own?).

Yeah. It's a miss (use your Kermit voice when you say "myth").

Wonder why black folks might be reluctant to call the police. Because they arrest them for reporting crimes:

http://www.businessinsider.com/black-17-year-old-reports-stolen-car-police-arrest-him-2016-9

And murder them with impunity.

You might understand these things if you had some friends in the black community.

Given black people kill white people in numbers far outreaching the rates at which cops kill black people, dies this mean some white people are justified in calling for the deaths of all black people like black people call for the death of cops?

It's weird how in some communities criminals have most people convinced that it's somehow ignoble or unethical to turn them in to the police. They can punch your sister in the face, steal her money and her phone, and if you call the police there's something wrong with you, and you're a snitch. The more people believe this, the better it is for criminals.

If a large number of people in a community are criminals, and if most families have criminals in them, there will be a lot of people who identify with and support criminals, and oppose the police. This is also advantageous for criminals.

If the neighborhood thug pounds and robs you, and because of your own activities there's a warrant out for your arrest, you can't very well call the police to help you. This works the same way for white people as it does for minorities. The more people there are in a community who can't call the police, the better it is for criminals.

I still say that the best way to understand BLM is by analogy to the Westboro Baptist Church: a group with no coherent ideology, that exists solely to draw attention (and donations) to itself.

"Given black people kill white people in numbers far outreaching the rates at which cops kill black people, dies this mean some white people are justified in calling for the deaths of all black people like black people call for the death of cops?"

Holy shit genocide much

"If a large number of people in a community are criminals, and if most families have criminals in them, there will be a lot of people who identify with and support criminals, and oppose the police. This is also advantageous for criminals."

It might be possible that in the very worst projects in America, "most families have criminals in them". It's certainly not the case in most black neighborhoods.

Jesus christ ya'll hate you some black folks

http://www.toledoblade.com/Op-Ed-Columns/2014/09/10/No-snitch-mentality-killing-black-community.html

BS No comprendo.

How can we "hate" black folks when we have enough on our own plates, don't live in their neighborhoods, don't associate with them, and maybe only work with them?

It's cultural and emotional make-up. I've got no idea why blacks don't make their own neighborhoods safe (only youth gangs can kill?), don't keep their 13 year olds safe from men, and complain when thugs making street corners uncomfortable are jailed for whatever reason a cop can think of.

If a kid can't leave his bike in the front yard w/o fear of having it stolen or go to the store for a coke w/o being hassled, then that's a shitty neighborhood. If an elderly person is targeted because they say something about it, then ...

And for the record I suggest we make it against the law for any cop to kill anyone. PERIOD! Killing only possible in a situation like the Dallas snipe attack and only then by SWAT w/approval by higher authority. No BS on cops doing their job. Killing is a crime regardless of who does it so it damn well needs to be thought through and not just because some sucker runs away.

"It might be possible that in the very worst projects in America, "most families have criminals in them". It's certainly not the case in most black neighborhoods."

"Certainly"? I suspect that the true extent of American crime is hidden from you by a press that cannot tell the truth. Maybe you have a publication like The Jail Report where you are, where you can see mugshots, but even that doesn't do the problem justice - in some categories of crime, ~13% of our population commits more than ten times the number of crimes than other groups, even in jurisdictions they control at all levels. {Police officer / chief / police commissioner / judge / city council majority / mayor}

Perpetrators of Black Homicide, from the Bureau of Justice Statistics:
• Blacks killed by other blacks: ~93%
• Blacks killed by "other": ~7%
• Blacks killed by police: ~.004%

What neighborhoods are exempt from this?

"How can we "hate" black folks when we have enough on our own plates, don't live in their neighborhoods, don't associate with them"

Maybe hate too strong. But if you don't know them or their lives, you might struggle with both a lack of empathy and make erroneous judgments based upon a lack of good information.

"If a kid can't leave his bike in the front yard w/o fear of having it stolen or go to the store for a coke w/o being hassled, then that's a shitty neighborhood. If an elderly person is targeted because they say something about it, then ..."

If you think this is the case in the neighborhoods where most people of color live, you're just wrong. I can't help you if you think that the black experience is what is described by Trump's speechifying at black Americans or what you see on crime dramas. Most black people don't live in places that amount to war zones, and most don't adhere to the "never snitch" code of the gang bangers.

It's not wrong to believe that the black community has trouble with crime, and is impoverished at higher levels than many other demographic groups in our country.

It *is* wrong to thing that most black people are poor and live in crime-ridden neighborhoods. It's insane to think that black people are indifferent to crime where they live. Seriously, think about what it would take for you to not care about your own safety or that of those around you. Those who allege black people don't care about black-on-black crime have to believe that black people don't care who is hurt if it's a black person doing it. This is nuts.

I live in a very multi-ethnic area, and my kids go to school with children of a very diverse background. I know the other parents - black, white, asian, indian - and they want what we want - a safe place to live, good education for their children. The black families, same as the rest of us, want to feel safe when law enforcement is involved, but they do not. And with good reason.

"Perpetrators of Black Homicide, from the Bureau of Justice Statistics:
• Blacks killed by other blacks: ~93%"

White on white homicide rate is 84%

Sounds like people who kill mostly kill the people they know. Your data is not particularly persuasive.

Black people care about crime in their neighborhoods, same as we all do. Black people are also uniquely impaired in their ability to trust that those our society has empowered to protect them will do so.

I've lived in those neighborhoods as well No comprendo. I've worked w/people of all races from all over the world.

I've also lived in neighborhoods where black kids set fire to my wood pile and black youth controlled the area for drug traffic robbing the houses nearby. (Never lived in the rural areas where white youth did the same only due to the lack of both for that time period.)

I've lived in neighborhoods where SSI checks were routinely taken from the elderly (showing my age here).

I've been in neighborhoods where MS-13 gangs harrassed women going into 7-11.

I've had to decide where I could shoot a gun in my house w/o hitting my son in his bed.

I do not hate anyone based on race. It's their decisions to rob/hurt/create fear that I hate.

It's all about what we've experienced. I have never experienced what is happening in Chicago black neighborhoods so I don't know what is going on there mentally/emtionally.

I know lawlessness is massive and you can not kill them all (try living in an area w/a motorcycle gang). So you move or hunker down.

Blaming the cops for trying to do something about the poor decision making of youth or the acts of professional criminals is a political act of terror sponsored by Left-wing groups and perpetrated by youth/YA that have no stake in anything real. (Broad brush here but ...).

I despise T. Coates, the concept of "mass incarceration", and the denial of personal responsibility.

My decision to defend myself in my home was never a decision based on the color of the intruders. Try explaining that to today's youth. Snort. I'm an old white guy so obviously ...

(BTW, black men are looking after my Sister (tooth infection led to brain infection and took her abilities) as well as my Mother until I could get her. So ...)

Black people are doomed if they do not take responsibility for their own decisions, forgive trespasses done decades ago, and cull their population of those that prevent their success (Hello Al!).

If a Cambodian boat person that spent HER youth in camps can unite w/family and own businesses (great doughnuts here) then why the hell can't a native born person do the same.

Apologies for the rant and for any presumption on my part about your meanings.