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Well, now that you put it that way, I would be happy to go to jail, settle for a lousy job, and lose my children, so you fine gentlemen can keep your lifestyle.

Or you could just try not smoking pot. That way, you could avoid jail, set your sites on a good job and keep your children.

As it turns out, they oppose Proposition 64, which would regulate and tax cannabis for the adult market.

"That way, you could avoid jail, set your sites(sic) on a good job and keep your children."

AND avoid funding them (and other criminal enterprises) until the law is changed, as you would require of anyone else breaking the law.

Uh, Rad. The word "sic" belongs in brackets, not parentheses. In other words, it's this: [sic], not this: (sic).

If you don't know how to use it, don't.

Yea, we all hate Walmart, but we shop there anyway......

I'm sure if they send Hill a few million she will cheefully pass along the marching orders to governor Brown

So yeah, the fear that cronies will succeed at setting up a heavily regulated market, that is impossible for others to break into or stay in, is not unreasonable these days. Still... what they are asking for is a form of protectionism. I can't think of any reason why their business is more deserving of protectionism than any other.

"Many small marijuana farmers, as it happens, see Proposition 64 as a threat to their way of life.

They believe that a legal, regulated cannabis market could open the floodgates to corporatization of the industry, pushing taxes up and prices down, perhaps forcing them out of business altogether."

I bet the farmer's market's would get more traffic. "Yup, the squash and the Fairy's Gold are fresh today."

Love the "we must protect small family business" thought but how many employees do they employ, insure, and pay well.

I did a stint in a family business and they watched out for THEIR bottom line for sure. Which is okay but it's like they are "noble" business endeavor helping the poor.

I bet Amazon is putting more hurt on more small business owners than Wal-Mart.

" ... but it's NOT [sic] like they are "noble" business endeavor helping the poor."

Baptists and bootleggers.

Just because their business is only quasi-legal, doesn't mean that they won't aggressively rent-seek in the exact same way that 100%-legal businesses do. Their profits are increased and their competition is limited by the current legal mess - de-regulating their product and making it more-or-less completely lawful for anyone to produce will hurt their business. How did you expect they would vote?

llater,

llamas

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In my experience, no one, but no one, will eff over someone faster than an old hippie.

Just remember that if you smoke weed, whether legal or not under state law, and you want to purchase a firearm (or possess one), you are not allowed to under federal law. One of the questions on the BATFE Form 4473 is this:

Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?

Regardless of state law, you cannot own or possess a firearm. If you lie and answer no to the question and you use weed, you have committed a felony. A Medical Marijuana card is proof you are a user, and I think states that allow recreational use also keep a record of who you are (how else does Colorado limit non-resident purchases of weed).

Be very careful or you could be in for a lot of trouble.

Does Colorado limit non-resident purchase of weed? I'm pretty sure they don't care who you sell to as long as the shop pays the sales tax.

Patrick, you miss the point of the exercise. Some states have chosen to be in open rebellion against a hypocritical, violent progrom. We'll never get changes by just tugging on their sleeve and saying please. Pushing back is the right thing to do.

Canvasback,
Do you mean like sanctuary cities?

"If you don't know how to use it, don't."

That was, of course, the most important point. I am so sorry that I pointed out your original error improperly. I now count on total precision in every post you essay!

(Not really. Thanks.)

Meanwhile...
"Disgustingly, two old-timer pot growers, Robert and John Cunnan, identical 76-year-old twins, are opposed to pot legalization."

Well, damn. There we go, individuals expressing themselves freely through speech and their franchise as citizens. Those sons of bitches, hiding behind the Constitution, huh?

Yeah, "disgustingly" is opinion, too, I get that. They still get to have theirs.

"Like sanctuary cities?" No. That's not much of a challenge to immigration policy. It comes across as more symbolic than as a real movement. There are a lot of worthy causes. Legalization of marijuana gets more support than many of the others, for whatever reasons. Examples will occur to you.

Those 76-year-old farmers remind me of what a friend once said - that he opposes medical marijuana because it would just put more money into the hands of the rich. He may or may not have been serious. I'll be a bit surprised if he votes no on recreational marijuana.
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Yea, we all hate Walmart, but we shop there anyway......
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*I* don't. Never have. If I can't get something from a yard sale, a school or church bazaar, the discount rack at the supermarket, Goodwill, or off the street, chances are I don't need it. And yes, that goes for most clothes as well - I watch people again and again on the street and I almost never see any decorative clothes I'd like to wear that would ONLY be found at retail prices.

(Below, something I posted elsewhere in 2013, two years after I'd visited Italy for the first time)

...Yes, Italy is known for expensive clothes, but doesn't mean that anyone (whom I saw on the street) was paying retail prices - and besides, just because I said the clothes were nice doesn't mean they were clearly expensive. They may or may not have been. I went to Neiman Marcus recently for the first time in years to see if they still had truly attractive clothes. They didn't. Everything looked pretty boring from a distance, aside from the expensive MATERIALS used. I'd probably have had better luck finding stylish, elegant clothes at my local vintage store. Even Goodwill can bring great rewards if you're just patient and search long enough.

*I* don't. Never have. If I can't get something from a yard sale, a school or church bazaar, the discount rack at the supermarket, Goodwill, or off the street, chances are I don't need it. And yes, that goes for most clothes as well - I watch people again and again on the street and I almost never see any decorative clothes I'd like to wear that would ONLY be found at retail prices.*

I go to Walmart just for the bacon......::-) , in order to find what I needed or wanted at Church Bazaars or Yard Sales, I would have to spend way more time *shopping* and driving around than I want to. Time is money, and shopping is not my hobby.

Did you know that Goodwill is a multi million dallar commercial enterpise?

But as usual, you missed my point Lenona.

The thing they don't tell you is that legalizing pot sales and use doesn't mean you get to open a pot store with the weed you grew in your back yard or the chronic your buddy gets cheap from a guy he knows. It means the guy with enough money to open a chain of dispensaries is going to have a chance to clean up. Marijuana is a commodity and those who can commoditize it will get rich off of selling and growing it.

With state-by-state legalization, you still have the possibility of state-run pot stores. Try getting rich growing pot when the state sets the price.

National smoking product companies like Phillip Morris and Lorillard aren't rushing into Colorado or Washington to sell pot yet because it's still federally illegal and a pot-selling subsidiary would play havoc with their taxes. Once they work out how to have a marijuana subsidiary, look for them to enter the market in states where it is legal.

To Isab: Then maybe you could explain why Wal-Mart has a bad reputation and Goodwill doesn't. Maybe, just maybe, the latter treats its employees better, for one? It can happen - check out DeMoulas, aka Market Basket.

"America's Most Loved CEO Is Having the Best Comeback Ever"

(This is from 2015, but it refers to the workers' revolt against the firing of chief executive Arthur T. DeMoulas in the summer of 2014.)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-31/market-basket-s-beloved-quirky-ceo-is-back-and-better-than-ever

And regarding shopping, I'm sorry that you have to buy so much more stuff than I do. I don't even have a car and I manage to get everything I need - and I don't pay other people to deliver it, either, aside from what I might order online, which is usually just books, and very few of those (I can get plenty of books for free at my recycling center).

Not to mention that there are other thrift stores besides Goodwill.

To Isab: Then maybe you could explain why Wal-Mart has a bad reputation and Goodwill doesn't. Maybe, just maybe, the latter treats its employees better, for one? It can happen - check out DeMoulas, aka Market Basket. ~ lenona at October 21, 2016 11:47 AM

Goodwill's cost of acquisition of its merchandise is probably less than half of what Walmart's is. No one donates their used clothing to a Walmart. Walmart has to go scour the world and buy the merchandise it sells. Goodwill sets up a bin.

By the way, Goodwill's average clerk/cashier salary is something like $8.80 an hour, while Walmart's is $9.37 an hour, according to GlassDoor.

It's also entirely possible that higher Walmart salaries won't be good for the country as a whole.

"And regarding shopping, I'm sorry that you have to buy so much more stuff than I do. I don't even have a car and I manage to get everything I need - and I don't pay other people to deliver it,"

Who said I bought that much stuff?

If I do buy more stuff it is probably because I shop for three people. Myself, my husband, and my 91 year old mother.
I also live in a place with huge distances between stores, and no public transportation.

This is why the Walmart Super Center is so great. It is a mile and a half from my house, and has everything, including a pharmacy.

Goodwill, on the other hand, is six miles away, and of course doesnt carry groceries. I never go there.

"Then maybe you could explain why Wal-Mart has a bad reputation and Goodwill doesn't. "

Don't know about that, but consider Wal-Mart and Target. Their business models are nearly identical; Target does make the insides of their stores a bit nicer and they carry a few up-market brands, but for the most part, they use the same tiers of suppliers as Wal-Mart, and they pay about the same. These days, it's even true that both companies donate about the same money to the same left-wing causes (Wal-Mart has moved a long way from Sam Walton's days). Yet Wal-Mart has a bad reputation and Target doesn't.

Why is that? I'll tell you why. Target is headquartered in Minneapolis. Wal-Mart is headquartered in politically incorrect Arkansas. That is, in the eyes of the ruling class, an irredeemable sin.

Forgot to say: Aside from grocery shopping, there's also Craigslist. Many suspect that yard sales are disappearing somewhat because of it - but it IS a big time saver when it comes to "driving around."