Debate #2

Moderator – lets pretend those asking the questions didn't have the FBI climb up their assholes and these questions aren't scripted and approved by both candidates and parties

1. Why do you use bad words when you talk? Why cant we all pretend everything is sunshine and puppies?

C - Inane rambling that says nothing, talking about issues not raised in the question. Bumper sticker slogans, stole Trumps slogan

T - Ditto, except for stealing one of Clinton's slogans

2. You said something ten years ago that we will now call sexual assault (even though we have no proof) why wont you admit your a filthy rapist (like Clinton's husband?) Confess! CONFESS!!

T - I've already apologized for my words, ISIS, other things, borders! Money, jobs

Side note here, whatever you think of Trumps words/actions his words also included the phrase 'and they let you do it' He was not talking about a time he assaulted a woman. If we are going to claim all contact before receiving verbal consent is assault/sexual assault, then I've been sexually assaulted by close to three dozen women(whether or not I enjoyed the contact), and assaulted multiple times by nearly every member of my family giving me hugs because I do not like to be touched by people and they never asked for permission.

Also anyone taking odds on whether Cooper ask Clinton abut reports of her harassing and physically assaulting the women who accused her husband of the same behavior?

C - Ignore the horrible things I said about past presidential candidates, I just disagreed with them. But Trump is unfit to be president because he acts like my husband, but we wont bring that up. Trump is unfit because he insults everyone.

Personally I find that refreshing, sure he is an asshole, but he treats everyone the same. Clinton doesn't care about an issue until it is politically expedient. And I'm surprised at how collected he is remaining this time

3. Shut up Trump, next question, same as the last question.

T - I do find the talk respect for everyone funny. You wanna stay on that? Lets bring up Clinton's husband and the way Clinton treated women

Don't applaud for Trump

C - Trump didn't answer the question. Never mind the fact I didn't either. He never apologizes, never mind the fact I didn't either. Mocked disabled reporter, never mind he made those gestures before even meeting the guy.

No one told to not applaud for Clinton

T - Brought up stolen primary, given liberals don't care I don't know why he brought it up

C - Trump lied, I never deleted emails

Audience told not to disagree with Clinton
Audience told not to applaud for Trump again

4. Clinton email scandal question, quotes from FBI director

C - It was a mistake. Never mind I just said Trump lied about it. There is no evidence, never mind the fact I had the server wiped. I take classified materials seriously, never mind the fact I claimed to have hit my head so hard I forgot how to handle such materials

T - He mentioned the Clinton/AG Phoenix tarmac conversation

Side note: I'm confused I though bother were supposed to get two minutes on each question, sure Trump has interpreted and gone over his time and got cut off, but here they cut him off before the two minutes were up

C - Its not true

5. Heath care -

Audience not told to not disagree with Trump

How hard is it to at least PRETEND impartiality by jumping on all audience noise? So far the only time the audience is being told to pipe down is when they agree with Trump or disagree with Clinton

C - I'm gonna fix it. Don't know why it could be fixed before I helped pass it. 20 million more people got insurance, ignore the fact that it was because they got on medicare. Everything she just listed is WHY the ACA costs more and covers less. Sure women cant be charged more than men. But now I as a single man have a policy that covers prenatal care and pediatric dental

We gotta raise taxes to pay for more stuff, that'll make it cheaper

T - It sucks

Side note: I wouldn't repeal it. I'd repeal all the exemptions congress gave themselves, all the delays Obama issued under executive order

C - Government fucked up, so we need MORE government to fix it, repeat statistical lie. How dare insurance companies not give away money that isn't theirs?

T - Its a fraud, vague inarticulate thoughts

6. Muslims

T - Meandering argument about muslims self reporting

C - Many successful muslims. Succinct repeat of Trumps argument. She actually said it

Side note: Ali was against interracial marriage and integration

7. Muslim immigrant ban.

T - Iraq! I was against it. Waffle on previous stance, we have our own problems

C - (in your best Helen Lovejoy) Think of the children

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo

8. Clinton paid speeches, public/private stance on issues

C - I was talking about someone else. And you can trust me because I've never lied about anything. Ever. PROMISE. Lets talk about the real issue. Russians are trying to steal the election I'm trying to steal and I'm sick of their interference. Wikileaks is bad (ever since they came after me they were great when they were attacking GWBush, but now they're bad)

T - Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah,

9. Fair share in taxes

T - She never will change, not the argument you want to make given the tapes out there Canned slogans, excited words, lower taxes, no real explanations

C - What Donald said inst true I did change the tax code, his meaningless slogans making no real definable claims are lies!

Side note: EVERY tax cut benefits the wealthy as the wealthy already pay the majority of taxes. Also sorry to break it to you but the extremely wealthy don't get their money thru INCOME. So income tax reform does dick for the average American

T - Meandering diatribe

C - Donald's a lair

Crowd not told to not applaud for Clinton

C - Bush vetoed my tax change law? Really? I don't recall that. Russia was great when they signed that treaty I signed that other people wrote. I sponsored 400 bills I never wrote

10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo, civil war, war crimes tribunal in America against Russia and Syria (but we cant let American citizens sue Saudi Arabia because we cant judge other countries) but since a democrat is in office shouldn't we send troops to help the civilians? Never mind we hated Bush for doing the same

C - We have to force everyone to do what we want because we know better than everyone else what is best for Syria. I've stood up to Russia, by selling them American uranium interests. Basically get leverage 'somehow' and investigate

T - Hillary is a disaster (to be fair EVERY US military intervention since WW2 has ultimately been a disaster)

Mod: Let me repeat the question what would you do about Syria

T - (cant admit he doesn't know [neither does Clinton but the mods let it slide] so he talks about other things)

Mod: OK, we already know the moderators are in the bag for Clinton. They way they only tell the crowd to shut it when agreeing with Trump is proof of that. But now you are arguing against the candidate?

Its almost like the longer Trump stays calm (for him anyway) the more biases the mods become

Mod: Tell me your strategy

C - No boots on the ground, except a few apparently. I hope the problem get solved before I'm in office, so much so that I wont talk about what I will do different if it hasn't But I know what I'm doing. I was involved in the planing of highly classified targeting (ignore the fact that none of those emails survived to be delivered to congress)

11. Can you be a president for all the people

T - Yes. Clinton/deplorable, jobs, inner cites, money, liar, articulate sputtering.

C - Job experience, Trump is to blame for bullying

12. Deplorables

C - I apologized (never mind the fact that I also said apologies aren't good enough when from Trump)

T - Shes bad, m'kay

13. Disciple

T - Ignore main question and focus on possibly misleading secondary statement. I wont mention this thing I just mentioned. Her friends aren't nice people.

C - Vote for me cause of my husband. I worked with Bush after 9/11 (he was a nice guy, aside form being such an asshole that I never bothered to try to change the tax law cause he would have vetoed it)

14. SC Replacement

C - Real people. But only the ones who agree with me

T - Meaningless platitudes, second amendment. Tremendously. Why don't you put up your own money?

C - I respect the 2nd amendment, except for where I don't

15. Energy

T - EPA bad (they kinda are), new tech, money, big ideas, no details! China!

C - If China is doing it illegally why don't you stop the smuggling?

16. I hate you both so here is a fuck you question

C - He is a good father

T - Shes a fighter

"How hard is it to at least PRETEND impartiality by jumping on all audience noise? So far the only time the audience is being told to pipe down is when they agree with Trump or disagree with Clinton"

If you don't show you are pro-Clinton and anti-Trump you get kicked out of the club Lujlp. There were plenty of editorials stating that flat out.

Why they don't understand that the blatant partisanship doesn't help them I can't answer.

If you don't show you are pro-Clinton and anti-Trump you get kicked out of the club Lujlp. There were plenty of editorials stating that flat out.

I know that the print media is in a death spiral, but it be interesting to see if that accelerates over the next 6 or so months.

Speaking of, it will be of interest to see if the NFL's numbers continue to tank. There's only so many times you can tell the general public that they're stupid before they *cough* pull the plug.

Happy Columbus Day!

In response to public demand for more non-white stories, Disney creates Moana. And the voice actors for the major characters are Polynesian.

They start rolling out the merchandise, including Halloween costumes, and then this shit:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/09/20/brown-skin-is-not-a-costume-disney-takes-heat-for-moana-halloween-costume/

When they did a muscle suit for Hercules in the late 90s, the suit matched the character's skin. This character, Maui, obviously has brown skin, but people are likening this to black face. Since the character is mostly naked except for his tattoos, how else could they design a Halloween costume?

Disney also is being criticized for making Maui obese (huh? I thought fat-shaming was BAD and we wanted representation of other body types) and for depicting his tattoos, which apparently are "sacred" to some people. (No one still worships Maui. He is universally referred to as mythical.)

Your ballot, simplified:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/10/branco-cartoon-quick-pick/

Oh, boy:

The International Monetary Fund’s growth forecast released just before the meeting was once again revised downward. While recession does not impend in any major region, growth is expected at rates dangerously close to stall speed. Worse is the spreading realization that the central banks have little fuel left in their tanks. Recessions come intermittently and unpredictably. Containing them generally requires 5 percentage points of rate cuts. Nowhere in the industrial world do central banks have anything like this kind of room, even allowing for the effects of unconventional policies such as quantitative easing. Market expectations suggest that it is unlikely they will gain much room for years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-global-economy-has-entered-unexplored-dangerous-territory/2016/10/09/a04852ac-8e24-11e6-a6a3-d50061aa9fae_story.html?utm_term=.6e59f3000e1a

There's only so many times you can tell the general public that they're stupid before they *cough* pull the plug.

I'm an old fart, and I haven't seen it yet.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/health/manxiety-rising-problem-blokes-failing-9018213

"Manxiety" is a thing, and it doesn't have to do with nervous tailless cats, but with men taking lavender oil and talking about their feelings.

Cat tries to save owner:

https://imgur.com/gallery/7DphX#PbmlsSR

Re "Manxiety:" It wasn't too bad of an article until I got to the snake oil ads at the end. At least one of the commenters seems to have noticed.

A new tourist attraction is going up!

“Little Stratford” will feature Shakespeare’s old home, as well as the house he moved to within the Warwickshire town, as well as a number of “Stratford streets”, the Avon river, and rather bizarrely, the Trinita dei Monti, Rome’s famous church.

Where is this new wonderland being built? Why, China, or course.

Oh, and while we're at it, here are some abandoned theme parks.

They didn't mention the park that soldiered on in my part of southwest Ohio while I was growing up. It had a roller coaster and some other neat rides, plus a beach and a stage and dance floor which in its heyday attracted lots of big acts. But the place couldn't compete with the fancy new park near Cincinnati, and by the time we played a couple of gigs there in high school jazz band, the park was already advancing into shabbiness. Even after all these years, though, I can still recall the smell of stale popcorn.

Is it dumb? Yes. Is it illegal? Nope

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/supreme-court-justice-ginsburg-kaepernick-protest-dumb-article-1.2825337

Remember: this is the woman who will stand up to Putin, Kim Jong Un, The Mad Mullahs, Ergodan, ISIS and whatever new terrorist org that will pop up along the way:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/10/clinton-campaign-hillary-wasnt-rattled-trump-was-stalking-her/

Huh:

http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/10/10/us-hurricanes-continue-their-decline-hurricanes-striking-us-peaked-in-1886-declining-ever-since-as-co2-has-increased/

The unions can pick their poison, either pay me now or pay me later:

http://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/10/07/unions-ask-court-to-rule-against-math/

And the bees are doing OK:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/10/10/believe-it-or-not-the-bees-are-doing-just-fine/