Yeah, the Golden Globes. That's why we have them – so we can make political commentary on people we don't like.

I don't wish any ill of this actress. I wonder how Ms. Streep felt about being continuously lied to by the previous administration. I wonder how anyone can excuse the company they keep; actual violence was visited on Trump supporters, and again, somehow, words are more important.

When will the crying stop?

I remember when the crying didn't exist for Obama, for Bush, for Clinton, for Bush Sr.

I remember we used to hold hands, kiss each other cheeks and be ecstatic the other sides party candidate won.

OR MAYBE BOTH FUCKING SIDES CRY EVERY SINGLE ELECTION AND I AM PERSONALLY FUCKING SICK AND TIRED OF EACH SIDE TELLING THE OTHER TO GET OVER IT EVERY CYCLE.

NO. Neither side has to "get over it" ok? It is our American RIGHT AND DUTY to be whiny babies damn it and if I had to listen to old people talk about how Obama was the literal devil at work and well then I will now listen to hipsters crying about Trumplethinskin at work. It's just what it is because people on both sides are fundamentally the same in their reactions. It's called being HUMAN.

The hilarity is they don't realize by thinking their reactions are so fundamentally different they are acting even more alike.

Watch how many Mango Man supporters will tell me I'm wrong. But I'm not. Cuz I'm comfortable and chill with both liberals and conservatives. I visit both communities. Can you say the same about yourself? I doubt it. I really do. I mean it's my literal job.

I'm a minority that works for old white conservative people. God have I had to listen to their crying about Muslim Obama all these years. You know working for old rich conservative people sucks. Y'all think I like being insulted on the daily about my generation? Y'all think I like hearing their crying about Obama? Y'all think I like the long.ass.convo's? No. But it's the same with people my age. I don't like hearing how they went to college and can't get jobs (I didn't know going to college meant a job was a "right") and I don't like hearing about racism every 20 seconds and safe spaces.

If I went by the opinions of here I would think Obama was universally hated. But he's actually pretty well loved and so is Trump. So that tells me Americans as a whole don't give a shit about actual policy. Like it doesn't matter at all. It's all about whether they want to see someone on t.v. but we have known this for many years now.....

Streep's speech was so pretentious. Hollywood = Art??? Lmao. Racist and Sexist as hell Hollywood? FUCK openly rapist condoning HOLLYWOOD.

You know it really bugged me she insulted the MMA.

That's one community that's very diverse, global and welcoming.

I talked to my very liberal boss once why he hands me all the old rich conservative clients with bored housewives and he just laughed and said I'm good with them.

But I officially hate old people and their obsession for the Orange Peel and I am going to rant and cry about it here, on Alkon's blog, as much as a I please.

Like hello I'm brown and look young. Why do they assume I am happy Babyfingers won?? WTF? I mean I would assume the opposite and just not talk pollitics tbh.

Meh. It's the Golden Globes. Another circle-jerk funded by the obscenely wealthy Hollywood elite. The Golden Globes confer no legal status or any recognition beyond the awardees themselves. Even the fans themselves have only a passing interest. Do you think Meryl Streep gains or loses any fans over the number of Golden Globes she has?

With all that in mind, I really don't give a rat's patoot what they talk about. Streep could have shared her lemon-artichoke cheesecake recipe for all I care.

As I said when I linked this speech a day or two ago on this blog, I would point out to Streep that Trump has only talked about ejecting illegal aliens from this U.S. Since the actors that Streep mentioned are presumably here legally, if not full-fledged U.S. citizens, they have nothing to worry about.

But regarding Trump making fun of the disabled reporter, he has refused to apologize for it, and persisted in denying he ever did it. So, why should he be allowed to live it down? Bring it up as often as possible. Let it be his legacy.

"Trumplethinskin..."? Oh, Ppen, that's very good. I'm going to use that.

"But the reality is, Trump desperately wants to be one of those movie people. Or at least be accepted by them. And when he’s not, he doesn’t like it..."

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/jan/09/meryl-streep-trump-big-weakness-golden-globes-speech

PPen, keep it up! I hope you will!

Is that worse than saying that a significant portion of Trump supporters are baskets of deplorables and irredeemables? to say Trump is the second coming of Hitler? that all his supporters are Nazis?

They're fashioning monsters in their imagination, and positioning themselves as the heroes in their stories. But they forget

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

Let Streep be Streep. This is part of why you got Trump.

Jeez! Why are youse guys going on and on and on about Trump? It's not like the DNC/Hollywood/Left really cares about Blacks, disabled, and so on.

Ppen nailed that. "Casting couch" anyone? Bernie getting a fair shot. Debate questions. Paying for violence at/against Repubs. The STUPIDITY of Podesta/DNC w/email passwords.

The constant looking down at someone saying "Maybe he has a point somewhere in that constant incessant rambling potty mouth of his. She sure goes on and on about stuff but I'm not sure it's relevant stuff (to me).

And TRUMP IS A "BOOR" is the best you've got? Pelosi/Reid are great w/words but I'm not sure they are "adults". How does Kennedy or Johnson look to you? Do you even have that much perspective? He has a potty mouth and that bothers you? Abusive behavior towards women by prior Presidents do not?

If he made fun of other reporters using the same body language/words then why should he apologize?

If he says let's make sure we vet properly days before a improperly vetted persons KILLS people. That's racist?

Sigh. This is old news. Ppen has the right attitude IMO whether we agree on anything else or not.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/01/09/muslim-who-voted-for-trump-harassed-by-tolerant-leftist-professor//?singlepage=true

When Asra Q. Nomani wrote an op-ed explaining why she, as a Muslim woman and an immigrant, was voting for Trump, she probably expected a bit of pushback. The former Wall Street Journal reporter knows how the game works, after all. What she probably didn't expect was to be declared non-human by a leftist professor at a university Nomani once taught at.

Unfortunately, that happened, and now Nomani is asking Georgetown University to take some kind of action against Christine Fair for her vile attacks:

On Nov. 22, Fair responded to the post on Twitter.

“I’ve written you off as a human being,” Fair wrote in one message detailed in the complaint. “Your vote helped normalize Nazis in D.C. What don’t you understand, you clueless dolt?” Fair wrote, later adding: “YOU publicly voted for a sex assailant.” She went on to say that Nomani “pimped herself out to all media outlets because she was a ‘Muslim woman who voted for Trump.’ ”

Wind, meet whirlwind.

I was playing bridge with an older lady friend of mine last night, Vassar grad, class of 1968.

We went to college in different decades, but we were both lamenting the fact that when we went through college it was impossible to know what any of your professor's political views were, and these days, it seems impossible not to have them thrown in your face at every opportunity.

The same was true with those in the entertaiment industry.
If I recall correctly this whole social justice warroir shit at awards ceremonies started with Marlon Brando in 1973.

Like shag carpet, and avacado green appliances, this fashion trend should have died in the 70's but instead it has given aging Philistines an opportunity to beclown themselves into posterity.

This is all happening because, decades ago, the Left established (or, to be fair, re-established) the idea that it's OK to deny the humanity of anyone who isn't of your tribe. (Remember, kids: Never trust anyone over thirty!) Strep went on and on about "bullying" people for their opinions, right after bullying football and MMA fans for their opinions. Why do this at an awards show? It's a common tactic for the Left: denounce your opponents in a time and place where they can't respond. The cast of Hamilton chose to hector Mike Pence from the stage precisely because they knew it would be considered uncouth for Pence to attempt to engage them in that venue. The Left knows that its ideas don't hold up to rational scrutiny, so it works to ensure that any expression of counterpoints is suppressed, or denied a channel.

As for Trump: I supported Ted Cruz in the primary. But I'm coming to realize that neither Cruz nor anyone else in the Republican field other than Trump could have won. Cruz would have been trying to make rational economic arguments, while the Left would have effectively labeled him as a racist Nazi, and kept him off guard by publishing unfounded rumors about affairs and tax cheating. Trump was the only candidate willing to get down to the gutter level where the Left operates, and take them on at their own game.

The Left in America has been engaging in war by other means for half a century. You're about to start seeing the opposition doing the same thing, using the weapons that the Left designed.

Does Streep imagine that all her fans are progressives? Do actors really want to alienate half their fan base? Or can't they imagine that there are people out there who could disagree with them? The fact that people went out and bought "deplorable" T-Shirts and hats suggests that pissing of your fans might have an effect. I won't go see anything by di Caprio, for example.

"I won't go see anything by di Caprio, for example."

This is akin to saying you won't call the cops because they - gasp! - carry guns and aren't politically correct.

I suggest that the sensible thing to do is just recognize that skill at one craft does not make one a genius at another. That we exalt celebrity is our fault, not theirs.

If you went down the list of actors to see who you agree with, pretty soon you won't have anything to watch, because lots of people in the production of media are far away from the world they seek to show.

Does Streep imagine that all her fans are progressives? Do actors really want to alienate half their fan base? Or can't they imagine that there are people out there who could disagree with them?

Depending on whom you ask, she's a multi-millionaire - I've seen estimates at $10 million, $45 million and $65 million. And at 67, the number of roles that may come her way will be somewhat limited. I have a feeling the number of fucks she'll give is rapidly approaching zero.

I won't go see anything by di Caprio because I don't want to cause his carbon footprint to grow ever larger whilst he lectures us commoners on the evils of our relatively modest carbon footprint.

I just can't bring myself to harm the planet in that fashion.

Tho I suppose my individual spending decision amounts jack when the studio and producers green light one of his projects, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

"I suggest that the sensible thing to do is just recognize that skill at one craft does not make one a genius at another. That we exalt celebrity is our fault, not theirs."

Well, I'm for one no longer doing it. I can count on one hand the number of movies I've seen in a theater in the past three years. And it amazes me that Hollywood thinks it can continually insult a large percentage of its audience and not suffer any financial repercussions. Ask the NFL how well that's going.

Well, I'm for one no longer doing it. I can count on one hand the number of movies I've seen in a theater in the past three years. And it amazes me that Hollywood thinks it can continually insult a large percentage of its audience and not suffer any financial repercussions. Ask the NFL how well that's going.

Cousin Dave at January 10, 2017 12:19 PM

Me neither. I suppose I support both the NFL and the movie industry indirectly with my satellite tv subscription, but that is about as far as it goes. Last movie I saw in a theatre was either the 300 or the last of the Harry Potter flicks.
I used to watch a lot of tennis, but ESPN ruined that as well.

You know it really bugged me she insulted the MMA. That's one community that's very diverse, global and welcoming.

Thank you! I'm technically on Streep's political "side," but damn.

I do BJJ (so I'm also close with my local MMA community), and it's the place where people from all backgrounds, incomes, races, beliefs have to trust each other, work together, and be respectful. There's a guy on my team whom I'd otherwise consider a Trum-humping monster, and he'd probably think I'm a feminazi baby-killer. But we spar together and are super cordial and respectful on the mats and have found a way to be good training partners -- and become friends. We would never interact (or see the other as human) if not for this sport.

I'd LOVE for Streep to step on the mats with my team. She probably wouldn't be able to handle it, though.

Correction to my above post: "Trump-humping."

sofar,

Agreed. Anyone who doesn't think MMA in general, and BJJ in particular, is an art doesn't have an opinion re: art I feel bound to respect. Even if they have no interest in it, lacking the awareness to recognize almost supernatural ability and economy of motion involved in that level of competition bespeaks a very small mind indeed.

But I spit out my coffee when I heard her idiotic statement for another reason - when taxpayers object to footing the bill through the NEA for everything from crucifixes suspended in urine to performance artists smearing themselves with various substances, the scream from the "artistic" community is always "FASCIST!!! you can't define art. Who is to say what is and isn't ART?"

Seems yet another judgment our friends on the left are all to happy to arrogate to themselves while denying it to others.

Seems yet another judgment our friends on the left are all to happy to arrogate to themselves while denying it to others.

Bet Streep would call herself a feminist, too. And yet degrades a sport where women are absolutely killing it and carving out a place for themselves in a male-dominated arena.

Come on everyone! Streep is a soon to be "has been" and was just doing a little social posturing, showing how "sophisticated" she is and how she deserves to still be a part of their circle jerk, er, I mean, social class. Give her a break!

Of course, it was funny when she stated how "vilified" Hollywood is. Yea, I'd loved to be "vilified" while raking in millions.

THAT shows how out of touch she is with reality; just like Hillary when she claimed how "broke" she and Bill were when they left the white house.

Yea, while I'd love to see Streep and others who trash the rest of America go broke I do believe that most folks only care if they entertain us and don't give a hoot about their politics.

Of course, just like George Lopez (remember him? the funny guy who stopped being funny?) when his show was cancelled because he was no longer funny he lashed out at "Racist" America. Streep and others will do the same and claim that they are being "persecuted" when middle America stops watching them.

Such creatures are to be pitied; not scorned.

But, then, what do I know? I'm just in a basket of deplorables.

Oh, and I won't go to see di Caprio because he can't act. He isn't even good looking! Why waste my money?

MMA is a lot closer to Acting - especially stage acting - then any Acting is to sculpture or drawing or painting - which are clearly fine arts. Thus, if MMA is not art then Acting is clearly not fine art and likely not art at all.

I can't remember the last time I was in a movie theater.

A fine point to remember...

The difference between an actress and an MMA fighter is that the actress only has to pretend to lose.

Isab wrote:

If I recall correctly this whole social justice warroir shit at awards ceremonies started with Marlon Brando in 1973.

I'm not sure about awards shows, but certainly celebrities (who then were mostly movie stars, as opposed to the current ragbag of vaguely defined celebrity) have often made political statements — the 1940s/early 1950s and the 1960s were prime examples. The Red Scare and the Vietnam War were prime time for celebrity stands on various issues.

Darth Aggie wrote:

Let Streep be Streep. This is part of why you got Trump.

I'm seeing this opinion and its variants more and more, and I don't understand it — do people really vote less on issues than they do on the sense they're being hectored, or talked down to? Each to his own, but I've never minded being talked down to; someone's words or attitude aren't going to make me feel inferior or out to "strike back."

"do people really vote less on issues than they do on the sense they're being hectored, or talked down to?"

Yes they do Kevin, and for reasons even more trivial than that.

Of course you're right, Isab — people make unsound investments, have children, etc. for purely emotional reasons. It doesn't seem a good way to live one's life, but they do it all the time.

As far as voting goes, though -- I can't fathom it. If I'm looking to make an investment, and the investment advisor is a jerk but the investment itself is sound, I can't imagine thinking, "I'll make this OTHER investment! That'll show him!"

(And I'm not talking Trump/Clinton here -- just riffing on the idea that condescending speech could make someone move against his or her own best interests.)

> Do actors really want to alienate
> half their fan base?

Career counsel exceeds our responsibility to them, just as political insight exceeds theirs to us.

Are we even required to —in a conscious & out-loud way— wish even non-"horrible" things upon this mundane personage?

People say horrible things about football players and game-show hosts and all kinds of people. If people want (and toil) to be famous, aren't we essentially excused from worrying about their feelings and reputations?

Sorry for the two evens, but I just don't think that such a figure ——such purely famous person, successful almost by definition for making herself well-known—— deserves your pouting compassion.

You don't have much of that kind of compassion. The reason God didn't give you more of it is that although it's one of your dearest & scarcest blessings, you've got more than enough for one lifetime if you spend it correctly.

the fact that xxx does not share your opinion about xxx is not reason to wish them a horrible death.

This behavior used to be mainly a leftwing thing. It has now become mainstream. Look at the CEO of Grubhub who more or less said he would fire anyone who voted for Trump. Look at the CEO of Mozilla who did get fired due to his not left wing acceptable views. Since no one actually believes any of these people are going to do anything to Streep, meh. She said some nasty things. They said some nasty things. Whatever. And yes, this is how Trump got elected.

I for one voted for Trump because it as the only way to make liberals 'care' about free speech, civil liberties, and executive overreach.

Given the fact they couldnt care less that Obama continued every program liberals protested under Bush, or spent more on the border wall than Bush, or deported more illegals than Bush shows the only time they care about freedom is when they arent the ones snuffing it out

"And I'm not talking Trump/Clinton here -- just riffing on the idea that condescending speech could make someone move against his or her own best interests."

People who speak condescendingly to you will seldom have your best interests at heart.

And Isab, yeah, ESPN has become pretty insufferable. I used to watch Sportscenter religiously; not any more. About the only thing I watch on ESPN any more is college football. I watch baseball games online with a sub to mlb.tv, and Fox and NBC Sports have most of the auto racing I'm interested in.

Thinking back, I saw one movie in a theater last year, and that was The Martian. For that, I made an exception. It's almost entirely an apolitical movie, and there are no sucker punches.

"just riffing on the idea that condescending speech could make someone move against his or her own best interests."

The very phrase 'voting against their own best interest' I find really condescending. Almost every time it is used people aren't voting against their best interest. They are only voting against the speaker's desires. The speaker also inherently states that they know what is best for 'those people'. That they can't figure out what they want so the speaker needs to take control of them. Which is false and incredibly narcissistic.