'We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases."
This link records the last time HHS published the list of people exempted from participation in Obamacare.
There may have been millions more since then, but after that date, government no longer felt compelled to even tell us who they were.
Crid
at January 17, 2017 11:22 PM
Trump is just helping these folks out, so they don't have to sacrifice their righteous stand against Trump by taking a job in his administration.
Except in politics, apparently. The Washington Post’s David Nakamura reports on the frustration of certain Republicans about their employment prospects in the new Donald Trump administration. They’re complaining about being blacklisted, but
Apparently, Marc Lamont Hill is coming to my city to give a talk. One poster I say gives his name, and follows that with "social critic, intellectual".
If you have to note "intellectual", you might not be one. Of course, I have no idea if MLH had editorial control over said poster.
No one seriously thought that this would impress people on the Left, but perhaps no one would have guessed that CNN contributor Marc Lamont Hill would have called those who engage with the Trump team “mediocre Negroes,” either. Lamont Hill also explicitly aims that epithet directly at LeVell
...The case was triggered when Mr Paulley, from Wetherby, West Yorkshire, attempted to board a bus operated by FirstGroup which had a sign saying: "Please give up this space if needed for a wheelchair user."
Mr Paulley was left at the stop because a woman with a sleeping baby in a pushchair refused to move out of the designated area when asked by the bus driver. She said the buggy would not fold.
He had argued FirstGroup's "requesting, not requiring" policy was discriminatory.
Reacting to the judgement, Mr Paulley told the BBC: "Who would have thought that five years on I would still being discussing the day I had that problem going across to see my parents for lunch?"
Today's ruling falls short of finding that bus companies can remove non-wheelchair users from the bus, but makes it clear they must do more than simply request they move from the wheelchair place.
Where a driver concludes a refusal to move is unreasonable, he or she should consider some further steps to pressurise the non-wheelchair user to vacate the space.
These might include rephrasing the request as a requirement, or even a refusal to drive on for several minutes "with a view to pressurising or shaming the recalcitrant non-wheelchair user to move".
This places a lot of responsibility on the driver...
(snip)
From Bratfree:
cfinboston
Re: Moos in for shock on buses...
January 18, 2017
"We really are doomed as a species. We need special legislation to force moos to allow handicapped passengers to use handicapped seating."
yurble
Re: Moos in for shock on buses...
January 18, 2017
"I found the ruling overall disappointing, as there is still no legal requirement for them to kick a------ able-bodied passenger off the bus. It is still up to the discretion of the driver.
"I was worried it would go the other way, so at least it was some sanity, even if it was highly lackluster. Someone should have drop-kicked that mombie on behalf of the wheelchair user."
lenona
at January 18, 2017 10:04 AM
"Remember when it was cool to leak data to the Russians before it wasn't?"
Yep. If you've been wondering why Manning was pardoned, here is the real reason: it was a deal to get Julian Assagne to agree to be extradited to face charges in the U.S. Not for leaking highly classified information or revealing intelligence sources, but to be prosecuted for embarrassing Hillary Clinton and John Podesta. However, it looks like Assagne is going to double-cross Obama, which is both completely predictable and hilarious.
Cousin Dave
at January 18, 2017 10:16 AM
Interesting link, Lenona.
I suspect that had the driver told the woman to get off the bus they would have gotten the exact same problem. Headline:
Woman, baby thrown off bus!
I R A Darth Aggie
at January 18, 2017 10:33 AM
I seem to remember a case where that DID happen - I think the mother was changing the diaper on the bus. Or the kid was screaming too loud and long.
But in the meantime...from 2013 (also from the BBC):
...The bus driver in Mr Paulley's case said he had refused to intervene because the company said its "first come, first served" policy did not allow him to force the mother to give up the space.
It was challenged by the judge who said refusing to give up a space for someone with a wheelchair was akin to ignoring a ban on smoking on buses - or carrying out anti-social behaviour on public transport.
His judgement added: "Although such a policy might inconvenience a mother with a buggy, that I am afraid, is a consequence of the protection which Parliament has chosen to give to disabled wheelchair users and not to non-disabled mothers with buggies."
The problem is all too familiar for Carole Broadbent, whose grandson David has muscular dystrophy and uses a wheelchair.
"David has had this problem getting on buses since he was nine years old and he's now 24," said Mrs Broadbent, from Hull.
"It regularly happens that a mum and pushchair are in the wheelchair space and the driver tells David he can't get on the bus because there's no space."...
(snip)
And (from a link within the thread at Bratfree):
"I would just like to point out, once again [sigh], that these are wheelchair spaces. Which were lobbied for, for years, by groups of people on behalf of those in wheelchairs.
"The pram-pushers are the inadvertent winners in this, as before all the campaigning there were no pram places on buses. We all (amazing how we did it), folded our prams, carried our children and our shopping, and sat on seats.
"So every time you disgustingly entitled people think 'I shouldn't have to fold for a wheelchair user, my pfb (precious first born) might cry hmm', you should be thinking 'there is a wheelchair users, thank goodness they exist, as due to them, most of the time I do not have to fold.' "
paragon schnitzophonic: "That person made an excellent point. Disabled rights groups did indeed campaign for wheelchair spaces on public transportation and the breeders not only took advantage of the results, but altered the original intent and decided that breeders now hold the rights. Look how many breeders in that thread called it the 'pram seats' and how many others had to correct them and say that they're not pram seats, but the wheelchair seats. Those seats are not there for the convenience of moos with 4x4 all-terrain buggies, but for wheelchair users. Even if a wheelchair user is fine waiting for the next bus, they shouldn't have to (and Moo couldn't even offer the disabled rider the money for the bus for him taking on an inconvenience so she wouldn't be) because what if the next bus doesn't have the seats available due to disabled riders already occupying it or moos are using it and another pussyfied driver refuses to force the moos to fold up the prams and/or vacate the seats? How long does the wheelchair user get left on the curb?
"The disabled and elderly get priority. If a bus is overcrowded, ask people if they're willing to get off and wait for the next bus and offer tickets so they don't have to pay a second fare. Moos with prams are told that they either fold up their buggies or they get kicked off the bus..."
lenona
at January 18, 2017 11:11 AM
"These might include rephrasing the request as a requirement, or even a refusal to drive on for several minutes "with a view to pressurising or shaming the recalcitrant non-wheelchair user to move".
It is rude but very few things that are rude should also be illegal.
Favoring wheelchair users over others is another variation of the service animal scam.
Most of the handicapped access laws in this country were passed to provide equal access to government buildings and services.
They were not designed to be an exclusive right for the disabled or the elderly (and define elderly please)
Expect to see more and more people who do not actually need wheelchairs, in them, to their own and everone else's detriment when it gets them special privileges.
You can bet when I am in the airport pulling two suitcases, I use the handicapped stall in the restroom for a reason. I dont have to leave my luggage outside.
A person with a non folding buggy or luggage too big or heavy for the overhead rack on a bus or a train in in the same boat.
Also if you are in a wheelchair, and the bus shows up with the wheelchair space already occupied by someone else in a wheelchair, you aren't going to be able to get on then either are you?
It is there so you can access the bus, not for your exclusive use based on some kind of superior right.
You know Britain is a failing country when their legal system actually takes a claim like this seriously.
Isab
at January 18, 2017 12:39 PM
Found it, from Seattle - it was because the baby had diarrhea and a lot of people could smell it, not just the driver:
"Some people have sensitive gag reflexes to smells. I can imagine a scenario where one passenger vomits from smelling the diaper, and that starts a chain reaction of puking..."
And from Linda:
"The bus driver is not blaming the baby, she is merely expecting the mother to respect other passengers and get off and change the diaper. The fact that she got off the bus, changed the diaper and then made a call to the bus company to complain, before taking the baby to the doctor, speaks volumes about her priorities!"
Last I heard, the bus company sided with the driver.
lenona
at January 18, 2017 12:48 PM
Expect to see more and more people who do not actually need wheelchairs, in them, to their own and everone else's detriment when it gets them special privileges.
___________________________________
Somehow, I very much doubt that. Even a motorized wheelchair can be somewhat inconvenient compared to walking to the bus stop with a cane - and even if the person doesn't even need a cane, at least he/she will only be "stealing" a seat and not taking up extra space on the bus.
_______________________________________
You can bet when I am in the airport pulling two suitcases, I use the handicapped stall in the restroom for a reason. I dont have to leave my luggage outside.
_______________________________________
And I agree that, contrary to what some think, if there's no handicapped person waiting in line, anyone should be free to use it. But that's not the same thing as hogging space on a bus. If you aren't handicapped and you're in a hurry, well, handicapped people are often in a hurry too.
________________________________________
A person with a non folding buggy or luggage too big or heavy for the overhead rack on a bus or a train in in the same boat.
______________________________________
From what I've seen, if something can go through the door, it's easy enough to squeeze it into the aisle - and there's always a back door anyway. Not wanting to wake up a baby is NOT a good enough reason to refuse to move.
______________________________________
Also if you are in a wheelchair, and the bus shows up with the wheelchair space already occupied by someone else in a wheelchair, you aren't going to be able to get on then either are you?
_____________________________________
That's just life. Many people of all kinds have to wait for a second ride because the first bus or subway train was too crowded, period.
lenona
at January 18, 2017 1:01 PM
"The bus driver is not blaming the baby, she is merely expecting the mother to respect other passengers and get off and change the diaper. The fact that she got off the bus, changed the diaper and then made a call to the bus company to complain, before taking the baby to the doctor, speaks volumes about her priorities!"
Most babies with diarrhea arent sick enough to need to go to the doctor.
Perhaps you are happy with emergency rooms being backed up by kids with the sniffles on Medicaid?
If this had been a gang banger shaking down other passengers, the driver would have never dared to say a single thing.....
Isab
at January 18, 2017 1:03 PM
To clarify: Anyone who can walk without a cane, with or without baggage, can move faster and make more accommodations than someone who can't even stand up.
lenona
at January 18, 2017 1:05 PM
Most babies with diarrhea arent sick enough to need to go to the doctor.
Perhaps you are happy with emergency rooms being backed up by kids with the sniffles on Medicaid?
____________________________________
I REALLY don't follow...
At any rate, I think if the driver was trying to avoid a chain reaction of sickness, that was a very wise move, since it would have meant all sorts of schedule disruptions for everyone.
And if the kid was really sick beforehand, the mother shouldn't have been bringing it into an enclosed space like that, with other people.
lenona
at January 18, 2017 1:12 PM
Jesus, Donald Trump is two days away from the Oval Office, is completely overwhelmed by policy questions he could never comprehend if he lived a thousand years, and he's bickering with Tom Fucking Ford?
Not for the first time and not for the last, I'd like to thank the Trump voters for bringing this wonderful moment to us. I mean, you could have read a dirty magazine and played with yourself, or maybe pounded half a bottle of vodka on an empty stomach... Those too would have been ways to express your adolescent resentment in a world that doesn't care. But you chose to make a television baboon into our 45th President.
You must be bustin' your buttons with pride over there.
Crid
at January 18, 2017 2:22 PM
You must be bustin' your buttons with pride over there.
Crid at January 18, 2017 2:22 PM
You're welcome.
Isab
at January 18, 2017 3:01 PM
But you chose to make a television baboon into our 45th President.
Better a baboon than a criminal who would have been severely compromised by multiple foreign governments, not to mention all the bribes she took via the Clinton Global Initiative.
So...yer welcome.
Wonder if those donors expect to get their money back?
"Not for the first time and not for the last, I'd like to thank the Trump voters for bringing this wonderful moment to us."
You are most certainly welcome Crid. With any luck we'll help you out again in four years.
Ben
at January 18, 2017 3:13 PM
Most babies with diarrhea arent sick enough to need to go to the doctor.
___________________________________
In case you didn't read the article...
"Nichole Hakimian says she was trying to get her son to a medical clinic on Tuesday afternoon when the driver of the bus asked her to get off."
"After filing the complaint, the mother and son caught the next bus to the clinic where they learned the toddler was suffering from stomach flu."
I don't know if that's not a good enough reason to take the toddler to the doctor, but it's certainly a good enough reason not to expose other people to it.
lenona
at January 18, 2017 3:15 PM
I don't know if that's not a good enough reason to take the toddler to the doctor, but it's certainly a good enough reason not to expose other people to it.
lenona at January 18, 2017 3:15
And if you are on welfare and can't afford a taxi, you should walk?
Isab
at January 18, 2017 6:31 PM
> Better a baboon than a ...
No, fuck that. It's exactly what I'm talking about. You're sixth-grade girls, whining about how that Penelope Hassenhammer has no business being so popular with the boys just because she has such a pretty face. YOU, YOU, YOU are the kind of self-regarding zombies who reduced this election to two wholly repellent candidates.
Both you and your lefty counterparts, who are in fact substantially more numerous, demanded first to be flattered by your candidate, and in the most petulant, piss-panties way possible. Both of you: 'I'll show them what it means to be a snotrocket!'
YOU DID THIS.
Don't squeal, like a gradeschooler, that you didn't have enough choices.
Clarity, like its cousin courage, is always a choice.
Crid
at January 18, 2017 6:38 PM
This was a wonderful resource, but I only learned of it last night.
Trump will have too many suck resources for daily review.
Crid
at January 18, 2017 6:43 PM
I meant to type 'such.'
But Dear God, is it going to suck.
Crid
at January 18, 2017 6:52 PM
And if you are on welfare and can't afford a taxi, you should walk?
Isab at January 18, 2017 6:31 PM
________________________________
As other people have already said, the least she could do was get off the bus, change the diaper, get on the next bus (buses are very frequent in Seattle, from what they said) WITHOUT filing a complaint. Chain reactions of puking are very bad for everyone, and the driver prevented that.
lenona
at January 19, 2017 11:00 AM
To clarify: Yes, sometimes you have to take the bus to the doctor. But even if your kid is feverish and sneezing, you can still make sure s/he doesn't sneeze ON anyone - and once the diarrhea happens, if there's no big empty buffer space available, yes, you have to get off. (In the above case, the bus was only half a mile from the clinic by the time the driver spoke up - but the smell was apparently too overwhelming by then for the driver - who, for all we know, wasn't feeling well either.)
lenona
at January 19, 2017 2:21 PM
So basically this is just another huge reminder that people are so selfish and stupid that they must call the law to tell them what to do.
Barf.
Radwaste
at January 19, 2017 3:19 PM
"the kind of self-regarding zombies who reduced this election to two wholly repellent candidates."
Lets lay the blame where it belongs:
On Debbie Wasserman-Hypenate and the GOP field of flavorless bran cereals masquerading as candidates.
George Carlin explains why Americans didn't want another business-as-usual President:
One minute thirty-six seconds of purest serene ray of bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGAdrQ2RpdM
Somehow, it feels like one man's lifetime.
Lastango at January 17, 2017 11:09 PM
This link records the last time HHS published the list of people exempted from participation in Obamacare.
There may have been millions more since then, but after that date, government no longer felt compelled to even tell us who they were.
Crid at January 17, 2017 11:22 PM
Trump is just helping these folks out, so they don't have to sacrifice their righteous stand against Trump by taking a job in his administration.
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/01/17/wapo-nevertrumpers-worried-that-theyre-locked-out-of-administration-they-opposed/
I R A Darth Aggie at January 18, 2017 7:07 AM
Remember when it was cool to leak data to the Russians before it wasn't?
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/254815/
I R A Darth Aggie at January 18, 2017 7:25 AM
Apparently, Marc Lamont Hill is coming to my city to give a talk. One poster I say gives his name, and follows that with "social critic, intellectual".
If you have to note "intellectual", you might not be one. Of course, I have no idea if MLH had editorial control over said poster.
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/01/17/cnn-debate-does-trumps-diversity-efforts-consist-of-mediocre-negroes/
I R A Darth Aggie at January 18, 2017 7:43 AM
The Desire cruise – set to launch in April 2018 – will set sail from Barcelona to Rome and features a variety of kinky options
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/579522/desire-sex-cruise-naked-nude-swingers-Italy-France-video
Stinky the Clown at January 18, 2017 8:38 AM
From Wetherby, England:
"'Wheelchair v buggy': Disabled man wins Supreme Court case"
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38663322
(includes a video)
Excerpt:
...The case was triggered when Mr Paulley, from Wetherby, West Yorkshire, attempted to board a bus operated by FirstGroup which had a sign saying: "Please give up this space if needed for a wheelchair user."
Mr Paulley was left at the stop because a woman with a sleeping baby in a pushchair refused to move out of the designated area when asked by the bus driver. She said the buggy would not fold.
He had argued FirstGroup's "requesting, not requiring" policy was discriminatory.
Reacting to the judgement, Mr Paulley told the BBC: "Who would have thought that five years on I would still being discussing the day I had that problem going across to see my parents for lunch?"
Today's ruling falls short of finding that bus companies can remove non-wheelchair users from the bus, but makes it clear they must do more than simply request they move from the wheelchair place.
Where a driver concludes a refusal to move is unreasonable, he or she should consider some further steps to pressurise the non-wheelchair user to vacate the space.
These might include rephrasing the request as a requirement, or even a refusal to drive on for several minutes "with a view to pressurising or shaming the recalcitrant non-wheelchair user to move".
This places a lot of responsibility on the driver...
(snip)
From Bratfree:
cfinboston
Re: Moos in for shock on buses...
January 18, 2017
"We really are doomed as a species. We need special legislation to force moos to allow handicapped passengers to use handicapped seating."
yurble
Re: Moos in for shock on buses...
January 18, 2017
"I found the ruling overall disappointing, as there is still no legal requirement for them to kick a------ able-bodied passenger off the bus. It is still up to the discretion of the driver.
"I was worried it would go the other way, so at least it was some sanity, even if it was highly lackluster. Someone should have drop-kicked that mombie on behalf of the wheelchair user."
lenona at January 18, 2017 10:04 AM
"Remember when it was cool to leak data to the Russians before it wasn't?"
Yep. If you've been wondering why Manning was pardoned, here is the real reason: it was a deal to get Julian Assagne to agree to be extradited to face charges in the U.S. Not for leaking highly classified information or revealing intelligence sources, but to be prosecuted for embarrassing Hillary Clinton and John Podesta. However, it looks like Assagne is going to double-cross Obama, which is both completely predictable and hilarious.
Cousin Dave at January 18, 2017 10:16 AM
Interesting link, Lenona.
I suspect that had the driver told the woman to get off the bus they would have gotten the exact same problem. Headline:
I R A Darth Aggie at January 18, 2017 10:33 AM
I seem to remember a case where that DID happen - I think the mother was changing the diaper on the bus. Or the kid was screaming too loud and long.
But in the meantime...from 2013 (also from the BBC):
...The bus driver in Mr Paulley's case said he had refused to intervene because the company said its "first come, first served" policy did not allow him to force the mother to give up the space.
It was challenged by the judge who said refusing to give up a space for someone with a wheelchair was akin to ignoring a ban on smoking on buses - or carrying out anti-social behaviour on public transport.
His judgement added: "Although such a policy might inconvenience a mother with a buggy, that I am afraid, is a consequence of the protection which Parliament has chosen to give to disabled wheelchair users and not to non-disabled mothers with buggies."
The problem is all too familiar for Carole Broadbent, whose grandson David has muscular dystrophy and uses a wheelchair.
"David has had this problem getting on buses since he was nine years old and he's now 24," said Mrs Broadbent, from Hull.
"It regularly happens that a mum and pushchair are in the wheelchair space and the driver tells David he can't get on the bus because there's no space."...
(snip)
And (from a link within the thread at Bratfree):
"I would just like to point out, once again [sigh], that these are wheelchair spaces. Which were lobbied for, for years, by groups of people on behalf of those in wheelchairs.
"The pram-pushers are the inadvertent winners in this, as before all the campaigning there were no pram places on buses. We all (amazing how we did it), folded our prams, carried our children and our shopping, and sat on seats.
"So every time you disgustingly entitled people think 'I shouldn't have to fold for a wheelchair user, my pfb (precious first born) might cry hmm', you should be thinking 'there is a wheelchair users, thank goodness they exist, as due to them, most of the time I do not have to fold.' "
paragon schnitzophonic: "That person made an excellent point. Disabled rights groups did indeed campaign for wheelchair spaces on public transportation and the breeders not only took advantage of the results, but altered the original intent and decided that breeders now hold the rights. Look how many breeders in that thread called it the 'pram seats' and how many others had to correct them and say that they're not pram seats, but the wheelchair seats. Those seats are not there for the convenience of moos with 4x4 all-terrain buggies, but for wheelchair users. Even if a wheelchair user is fine waiting for the next bus, they shouldn't have to (and Moo couldn't even offer the disabled rider the money for the bus for him taking on an inconvenience so she wouldn't be) because what if the next bus doesn't have the seats available due to disabled riders already occupying it or moos are using it and another pussyfied driver refuses to force the moos to fold up the prams and/or vacate the seats? How long does the wheelchair user get left on the curb?
"The disabled and elderly get priority. If a bus is overcrowded, ask people if they're willing to get off and wait for the next bus and offer tickets so they don't have to pay a second fare. Moos with prams are told that they either fold up their buggies or they get kicked off the bus..."
lenona at January 18, 2017 11:11 AM
"These might include rephrasing the request as a requirement, or even a refusal to drive on for several minutes "with a view to pressurising or shaming the recalcitrant non-wheelchair user to move".
It is rude but very few things that are rude should also be illegal.
Favoring wheelchair users over others is another variation of the service animal scam.
Most of the handicapped access laws in this country were passed to provide equal access to government buildings and services.
They were not designed to be an exclusive right for the disabled or the elderly (and define elderly please)
Expect to see more and more people who do not actually need wheelchairs, in them, to their own and everone else's detriment when it gets them special privileges.
You can bet when I am in the airport pulling two suitcases, I use the handicapped stall in the restroom for a reason. I dont have to leave my luggage outside.
A person with a non folding buggy or luggage too big or heavy for the overhead rack on a bus or a train in in the same boat.
Also if you are in a wheelchair, and the bus shows up with the wheelchair space already occupied by someone else in a wheelchair, you aren't going to be able to get on then either are you?
It is there so you can access the bus, not for your exclusive use based on some kind of superior right.
You know Britain is a failing country when their legal system actually takes a claim like this seriously.
Isab at January 18, 2017 12:39 PM
Found it, from Seattle - it was because the baby had diarrhea and a lot of people could smell it, not just the driver:
http://www.seattlepi.com/mount-rainier/article/Mom-says-stinky-diaper-got-her-sick-baby-kicked-3960042.php
And from rudegubmintworker:
"Some people have sensitive gag reflexes to smells. I can imagine a scenario where one passenger vomits from smelling the diaper, and that starts a chain reaction of puking..."
And from Linda:
"The bus driver is not blaming the baby, she is merely expecting the mother to respect other passengers and get off and change the diaper. The fact that she got off the bus, changed the diaper and then made a call to the bus company to complain, before taking the baby to the doctor, speaks volumes about her priorities!"
Last I heard, the bus company sided with the driver.
lenona at January 18, 2017 12:48 PM
Expect to see more and more people who do not actually need wheelchairs, in them, to their own and everone else's detriment when it gets them special privileges.
___________________________________
Somehow, I very much doubt that. Even a motorized wheelchair can be somewhat inconvenient compared to walking to the bus stop with a cane - and even if the person doesn't even need a cane, at least he/she will only be "stealing" a seat and not taking up extra space on the bus.
_______________________________________
You can bet when I am in the airport pulling two suitcases, I use the handicapped stall in the restroom for a reason. I dont have to leave my luggage outside.
_______________________________________
And I agree that, contrary to what some think, if there's no handicapped person waiting in line, anyone should be free to use it. But that's not the same thing as hogging space on a bus. If you aren't handicapped and you're in a hurry, well, handicapped people are often in a hurry too.
________________________________________
A person with a non folding buggy or luggage too big or heavy for the overhead rack on a bus or a train in in the same boat.
______________________________________
From what I've seen, if something can go through the door, it's easy enough to squeeze it into the aisle - and there's always a back door anyway. Not wanting to wake up a baby is NOT a good enough reason to refuse to move.
______________________________________
Also if you are in a wheelchair, and the bus shows up with the wheelchair space already occupied by someone else in a wheelchair, you aren't going to be able to get on then either are you?
_____________________________________
That's just life. Many people of all kinds have to wait for a second ride because the first bus or subway train was too crowded, period.
lenona at January 18, 2017 1:01 PM
"The bus driver is not blaming the baby, she is merely expecting the mother to respect other passengers and get off and change the diaper. The fact that she got off the bus, changed the diaper and then made a call to the bus company to complain, before taking the baby to the doctor, speaks volumes about her priorities!"
Most babies with diarrhea arent sick enough to need to go to the doctor.
Perhaps you are happy with emergency rooms being backed up by kids with the sniffles on Medicaid?
If this had been a gang banger shaking down other passengers, the driver would have never dared to say a single thing.....
Isab at January 18, 2017 1:03 PM
To clarify: Anyone who can walk without a cane, with or without baggage, can move faster and make more accommodations than someone who can't even stand up.
lenona at January 18, 2017 1:05 PM
Most babies with diarrhea arent sick enough to need to go to the doctor.
Perhaps you are happy with emergency rooms being backed up by kids with the sniffles on Medicaid?
____________________________________
I REALLY don't follow...
At any rate, I think if the driver was trying to avoid a chain reaction of sickness, that was a very wise move, since it would have meant all sorts of schedule disruptions for everyone.
And if the kid was really sick beforehand, the mother shouldn't have been bringing it into an enclosed space like that, with other people.
lenona at January 18, 2017 1:12 PM
Jesus, Donald Trump is two days away from the Oval Office, is completely overwhelmed by policy questions he could never comprehend if he lived a thousand years, and he's bickering with Tom Fucking Ford?
Not for the first time and not for the last, I'd like to thank the Trump voters for bringing this wonderful moment to us. I mean, you could have read a dirty magazine and played with yourself, or maybe pounded half a bottle of vodka on an empty stomach... Those too would have been ways to express your adolescent resentment in a world that doesn't care. But you chose to make a television baboon into our 45th President.
You must be bustin' your buttons with pride over there.
Crid at January 18, 2017 2:22 PM
You must be bustin' your buttons with pride over there.
Crid at January 18, 2017 2:22 PM
You're welcome.
Isab at January 18, 2017 3:01 PM
But you chose to make a television baboon into our 45th President.
Better a baboon than a criminal who would have been severely compromised by multiple foreign governments, not to mention all the bribes she took via the Clinton Global Initiative.
So...yer welcome.
Wonder if those donors expect to get their money back?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/16/clinton-global-initiative-to-lay-off-employees-shut-down-amid-dwindling-donations.html
I R A Darth Aggie at January 18, 2017 3:04 PM
"Not for the first time and not for the last, I'd like to thank the Trump voters for bringing this wonderful moment to us."
You are most certainly welcome Crid. With any luck we'll help you out again in four years.
Ben at January 18, 2017 3:13 PM
Most babies with diarrhea arent sick enough to need to go to the doctor.
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In case you didn't read the article...
"Nichole Hakimian says she was trying to get her son to a medical clinic on Tuesday afternoon when the driver of the bus asked her to get off."
"After filing the complaint, the mother and son caught the next bus to the clinic where they learned the toddler was suffering from stomach flu."
I don't know if that's not a good enough reason to take the toddler to the doctor, but it's certainly a good enough reason not to expose other people to it.
lenona at January 18, 2017 3:15 PM
I don't know if that's not a good enough reason to take the toddler to the doctor, but it's certainly a good enough reason not to expose other people to it.
lenona at January 18, 2017 3:15
And if you are on welfare and can't afford a taxi, you should walk?
Isab at January 18, 2017 6:31 PM
> Better a baboon than a ...
No, fuck that. It's exactly what I'm talking about. You're sixth-grade girls, whining about how that Penelope Hassenhammer has no business being so popular with the boys just because she has such a pretty face. YOU, YOU, YOU are the kind of self-regarding zombies who reduced this election to two wholly repellent candidates.
Both you and your lefty counterparts, who are in fact substantially more numerous, demanded first to be flattered by your candidate, and in the most petulant, piss-panties way possible. Both of you: 'I'll show them what it means to be a snotrocket!'
YOU DID THIS.
Don't squeal, like a gradeschooler, that you didn't have enough choices.
Clarity, like its cousin courage, is always a choice.
Crid at January 18, 2017 6:38 PM
This was a wonderful resource, but I only learned of it last night.
Trump will have too many suck resources for daily review.
Crid at January 18, 2017 6:43 PM
I meant to type 'such.'
But Dear God, is it going to suck.
Crid at January 18, 2017 6:52 PM
And if you are on welfare and can't afford a taxi, you should walk?
Isab at January 18, 2017 6:31 PM
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As other people have already said, the least she could do was get off the bus, change the diaper, get on the next bus (buses are very frequent in Seattle, from what they said) WITHOUT filing a complaint. Chain reactions of puking are very bad for everyone, and the driver prevented that.
lenona at January 19, 2017 11:00 AM
To clarify: Yes, sometimes you have to take the bus to the doctor. But even if your kid is feverish and sneezing, you can still make sure s/he doesn't sneeze ON anyone - and once the diarrhea happens, if there's no big empty buffer space available, yes, you have to get off. (In the above case, the bus was only half a mile from the clinic by the time the driver spoke up - but the smell was apparently too overwhelming by then for the driver - who, for all we know, wasn't feeling well either.)
lenona at January 19, 2017 2:21 PM
So basically this is just another huge reminder that people are so selfish and stupid that they must call the law to tell them what to do.
Barf.
Radwaste at January 19, 2017 3:19 PM
"the kind of self-regarding zombies who reduced this election to two wholly repellent candidates."
Lets lay the blame where it belongs:
On Debbie Wasserman-Hypenate and the GOP field of flavorless bran cereals masquerading as candidates.
George Carlin explains why Americans didn't want another business-as-usual President:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at January 20, 2017 12:47 AM
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