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No Rad, even a 1% derivation does not change the fact that gender is binary in a two sexed species
Sucks to be an outlier, especially one due to bad genetic coding. But having a micopenis doenst make you a third sex, having both doenst make you a third sex, it makes you a mix of both
Luj, you clearly missed that there are LIVING PEOPLE who are not one gender or the other.
This isn’t an exercise. “Binary“ means they’re exactly two, no more, no less. One outlier completely denies a binary definition.
Radwaste
at September 27, 2017 9:02 AM
I didnt miss it, it doesnt matter.
The fact that a fraction of a percentage of the population was born with miscoded DNA does not change the fact that we are a two sexed species.
Until such time as those miscodes become more widespread and able to be passed on to offspring in a greater and greater numbers they are all genetic dead ends
Sigh. "I didnt miss it, it doesnt matter."
Just to you, for whom details are inconvenient.
Luj, you either haven't learned this or have forgotten it: Any population has outliers due to the inherent characteristics of DNA replication. The population of {name type of outlier here} will always be a percentage of the general population, even though the percentage varies due to environment (thalidomide, mercury, human predation, reporting thoroughness, mores and genetic isolation).
Gender is not binary as you claim because the definition does not depend on fertility.
So you want to insist that there are only TWO genders that naturally produce human offspring. This is akin to claiming that only "natural" remedies work.
Test: do you deny a sterile woman her gender? A sterile man?
Test: do you deny an American, born here and a productive citizen, any of the benefits thereof?
By the way, your last sentence was logically wrong, in that "greater and greater numbers" implies that a small number occurs now, which contradicts your assertion above. Be sure to note that "nature", whatever you call it, does not care if you call it a "miscode", and in fact biologists can show you errors in all reproduction when it is defined as faithful to the original.
Radwaste
at September 29, 2017 11:54 AM
Occasionally, I see the old argument, "Where's the "gay gene", smart guy?"
To which I have two replies:
1) There isn't any ONE "gay gene" any more than there is a single "straight gene". Intimacy, in any population, is a survival trait that varies only in degree. I'm sure you're not gonna shout, "Gaaa-aaay!" at a Hell's Angel when he kisses his fellow 1%er on the mouth. That's not for me, the skull thing clashes with my other clothes, but I'm not interfering.
2) Where's the gender line, really? Is this it, or near it?
Remember: born in the USA, exact same rights as you. A peer of yours. Maybe on your jury!
{grin}
Radwaste
at September 29, 2017 12:04 PM
Why are they sterile? Some have 47 or 48 chromosomes meaning they arent technically human
#Science!
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bath-spa-university-bars-research-into-transgender-surgery-regrets-ddxxlbfzh
I R A Darth Aggie at September 26, 2017 7:16 AM
Heather MacDonald.
https://www.city-journal.org/html/hard-data-hollow-protests-15458.html
I R A Darth Aggie at September 26, 2017 7:40 AM
Now this is how you do dynamic mannequin posing in retail:
https://twitter.com/noroiteitoku/status/901694748318023680
Sixclaws at September 26, 2017 8:12 AM
Qualified immunity: unlawful?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/09/25/new-draft-of-is-qualified-immunity-unlawful/
I R A Darth Aggie at September 26, 2017 8:55 AM
Makes you wonder if the NFL thinks that it can sustain itself with only New York, California, and Hawaii supporting them.
https://twitter.com/AmericanHotLips/status/912464698460839936
I mean, it worked for the Democrats and the popular vote.
Sixclaws at September 26, 2017 9:27 AM
IRADA: transgender surgery regrets? Seventeen years ago, Johns Hopkins published this about its policy on cutting children.
Irony: the existence of this practice clearly illustrates that physical gender is NOT binary, ignoring the wishes of many.
Radwaste at September 26, 2017 12:00 PM
See? Male actors can kill franchises too.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/26/jason-isaacs-star-trek-discovery-star-mocks-angere/
Sixclaws at September 26, 2017 7:40 PM
No Rad, even a 1% derivation does not change the fact that gender is binary in a two sexed species
Sucks to be an outlier, especially one due to bad genetic coding. But having a micopenis doenst make you a third sex, having both doenst make you a third sex, it makes you a mix of both
lujlp at September 27, 2017 7:24 AM
Luj, you clearly missed that there are LIVING PEOPLE who are not one gender or the other.
This isn’t an exercise. “Binary“ means they’re exactly two, no more, no less. One outlier completely denies a binary definition.
Radwaste at September 27, 2017 9:02 AM
I didnt miss it, it doesnt matter.
The fact that a fraction of a percentage of the population was born with miscoded DNA does not change the fact that we are a two sexed species.
Until such time as those miscodes become more widespread and able to be passed on to offspring in a greater and greater numbers they are all genetic dead ends
lujlp at September 27, 2017 7:33 PM
Sigh. "I didnt miss it, it doesnt matter."
Just to you, for whom details are inconvenient.
Luj, you either haven't learned this or have forgotten it:
Any population has outliers due to the inherent characteristics of DNA replication. The population of {name type of outlier here} will always be a percentage of the general population, even though the percentage varies due to environment (thalidomide, mercury, human predation, reporting thoroughness, mores and genetic isolation).
Gender is not binary as you claim because the definition does not depend on fertility.
So you want to insist that there are only TWO genders that naturally produce human offspring. This is akin to claiming that only "natural" remedies work.
Test: do you deny a sterile woman her gender? A sterile man?
Test: do you deny an American, born here and a productive citizen, any of the benefits thereof?
By the way, your last sentence was logically wrong, in that "greater and greater numbers" implies that a small number occurs now, which contradicts your assertion above. Be sure to note that "nature", whatever you call it, does not care if you call it a "miscode", and in fact biologists can show you errors in all reproduction when it is defined as faithful to the original.
Radwaste at September 29, 2017 11:54 AM
Occasionally, I see the old argument, "Where's the "gay gene", smart guy?"
To which I have two replies:
1) There isn't any ONE "gay gene" any more than there is a single "straight gene". Intimacy, in any population, is a survival trait that varies only in degree. I'm sure you're not gonna shout, "Gaaa-aaay!" at a Hell's Angel when he kisses his fellow 1%er on the mouth. That's not for me, the skull thing clashes with my other clothes, but I'm not interfering.
2) Where's the gender line, really? Is this it, or near it?
Remember: born in the USA, exact same rights as you. A peer of yours. Maybe on your jury!
{grin}
Radwaste at September 29, 2017 12:04 PM
Why are they sterile? Some have 47 or 48 chromosomes meaning they arent technically human
lujlp at September 30, 2017 2:44 PM
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