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There's more to being principled than being a smart-ass, and I think Jon Stewart and his ilk confused a lot of otherwise articulate young people about that.
Crid
at October 14, 2017 2:43 AM
...But when your principles and your research are in good order, smart-assedness is optional.
“I give 10 percent of my income to charity every year,” Clinton continued. “This [the Weinstein money] will be part of that. There’s no doubt about it.” ~ Hillary Clinton
Tithing is giving your own money to charity. A tithe does not include the return of dirty, politically unpopular donations.
Besides, I thought her favorite charity was her own foundation. That way, she gets to give it away and keep it.
$1,492,673.45
That total includes money from others that Weinstein bundled. So she can weasel away and say some of it was not from Harvey himself and is therefore "clean."
And that's why she cannot say exactly how much Harvey gave her.
C'mon, you people know how the Clinton Shuffle works by now.
Conan the Grammarian
at October 14, 2017 6:18 AM
There's more to being principled than being a smart-ass, and I think Jon Stewart and his ilk confused a lot of otherwise articulate young people about that. ~ Crid at October 14, 2017 2:43 AM
it was easy for them to get confused. There were so few public (and private) examples of real principle for them to choose.
We've lost a few things in the last 50 years. And we're no longer setting good examples for our children. We blame the teacher for Junior's bad grades because those might ruin his chance at Harvard (and, more importantly, our chance to say we have a child at Harvard). We blame the police for someone getting killed after trying to take a police officer's gun or mugging the neighborhood watch guy. We call a publicity-hungry politician who will do anything for a headline a principled "maverick." We nominate for the highest office in the land a woman whose relationship with the truth is fleeting at best and hold her dishonesty up as a paragon of womanhood. We elect to the highest office in the land a man whose mental state is less stable than ADHD-riddled four-year-old's. We celebrate the president who put us $20 trillion in debt and decry the president who tries to cut our government benefits to get control over that debt.
This is why we confuse smart-ass comedians with our moral consciences. They're all we have at this point.
> There were so few public (and
> private) examples of real principle
> for them to choose.
Oh, there were THOUSANDS. There were THOUSANDS of examples of real principle for young people to choose from in contemporary society...
But few of them were as smirkingly & undemandingly flattering —when you were watching TV & drinking beer in your dormroom on a schoolnight, with one fist under a piece of pizza and the other in your sweatpants— as Jon Stewart on the flatscreen. The graphics, the incompetent delivery, the audio sweetened by a laugh track... The whole thing made its viewers feel courageous and kind, even if they'd never done a decent thing for another human being in their entire lives.
(Besides, I've been told that the ratings for Stewart and Colbert were never all that great, even demographically.)
"I grew up in Texas. Football is ubiquitous in Texas. Pro football, college football, high school football, Pee-Wee football; in fact, every form of football except the original: European football, which most Texans believe to be a commie plot." ~ The Big Bang Theory
Conan the Grammarian
at October 14, 2017 1:16 PM
Those warped Germans have greater things to worry about. #Islam
mpetrie98
at October 14, 2017 4:13 PM
Here's my take on Kimmel, because it reminds me of some guys I knew in high school:
Kimmel is the rich kid in the frat. He's snobby to his frat brothers, crass with the ugly girls, handsy with the pretty girls, and he only studies enough to just barely pass. He sucks up to the professors to their faces and then gives them the finger behind their backs. He doesn't give a damn because he knows that as soon as he graduates, he's going to become vice president of Daddy's company, no matter what.
Cousin Dave
at October 16, 2017 9:58 AM
Mpetrie, I have no doubt that, whether one is male or female, Hollywood is pretty awful if you have to live and work there as a person with relatively little power or influence. Not to mention: I knew a nationally famous TV actress when she was a normal teen, and when she got famous, she said in an interview, re her happy marriage, that when she met her future husband, she told him not to bother if he was an actor (he wasn't) because she would never again date actors. I would assume that's because they're good at lying - and that makes it easy for them to cheat. Never mind anyone who's a lot more powerful and ruthless than an actor, in Hollywood.
Doesn't change the fact, however, that that article you linked to has some glaring lies (or stupid errors) in it as well. Woody Allen's wife Soon-Yi was NEVER his stepdaughter or adopted daughter; he never lived with her beforehand; and according to her, when she was a highschooler, the two were "polite but uninterested in each other." Yes, it was rotten of him (and her) to get involved when it hurt Woody's adopted teen son Moses so much, but since then, Moses has taken Woody's side rather than Mia's, probably for good reason. (Re the accusations regarding adopted daughter Dylan - since Mia admitted, long after the fact, that she was fooling around with Frank Sinatra in the 1980s and hid that fact for years, there's a good chance that Ronan is not Woody's son. So I wouldn't be surprised if a liar like that brainwashed Dylan, over the years, to say what she said.)
I got nothing against Jimmy Kimmel, but I'm grateful that folks are finally seeing this pattern as regards showbusiness figures:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesHasson20/status/918927455708213249
There's more to being principled than being a smart-ass, and I think Jon Stewart and his ilk confused a lot of otherwise articulate young people about that.
Crid at October 14, 2017 2:43 AM
...But when your principles and your research are in good order, smart-assedness is optional.
https://mobile.twitter.com/arttavana/status/918550789747908608
Crid at October 14, 2017 2:48 AM
Compassionate. Empowering. Sustainable.
Crid at October 14, 2017 5:59 AM
I take it they're all media moguls?
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/16-rapists-among-hundreds-of-london-sex-offenders-let-off-with-a-caution-a3657781.html
Sixclaws at October 14, 2017 6:10 AM
Tithing is giving your own money to charity. A tithe does not include the return of dirty, politically unpopular donations.
Besides, I thought her favorite charity was her own foundation. That way, she gets to give it away and keep it.
That total includes money from others that Weinstein bundled. So she can weasel away and say some of it was not from Harvey himself and is therefore "clean."
And that's why she cannot say exactly how much Harvey gave her.
C'mon, you people know how the Clinton Shuffle works by now.
Conan the Grammarian at October 14, 2017 6:18 AM
it was easy for them to get confused. There were so few public (and private) examples of real principle for them to choose.
We've lost a few things in the last 50 years. And we're no longer setting good examples for our children. We blame the teacher for Junior's bad grades because those might ruin his chance at Harvard (and, more importantly, our chance to say we have a child at Harvard). We blame the police for someone getting killed after trying to take a police officer's gun or mugging the neighborhood watch guy. We call a publicity-hungry politician who will do anything for a headline a principled "maverick." We nominate for the highest office in the land a woman whose relationship with the truth is fleeting at best and hold her dishonesty up as a paragon of womanhood. We elect to the highest office in the land a man whose mental state is less stable than ADHD-riddled four-year-old's. We celebrate the president who put us $20 trillion in debt and decry the president who tries to cut our government benefits to get control over that debt.
This is why we confuse smart-ass comedians with our moral consciences. They're all we have at this point.
Conan the Grammarian at October 14, 2017 6:32 AM
Naw Sixclaws, Im betting they are "asian"
British PC code for muslim
lujlp at October 14, 2017 7:28 AM
> There were so few public (and
> private) examples of real principle
> for them to choose.
Oh, there were THOUSANDS. There were THOUSANDS of examples of real principle for young people to choose from in contemporary society...
But few of them were as smirkingly & undemandingly flattering —when you were watching TV & drinking beer in your dormroom on a schoolnight, with one fist under a piece of pizza and the other in your sweatpants— as Jon Stewart on the flatscreen. The graphics, the incompetent delivery, the audio sweetened by a laugh track... The whole thing made its viewers feel courageous and kind, even if they'd never done a decent thing for another human being in their entire lives.
(Besides, I've been told that the ratings for Stewart and Colbert were never all that great, even demographically.)
Crid at October 14, 2017 9:18 AM
Meanwhile
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/278287/
I R A Darth Aggie at October 14, 2017 9:46 AM
No. If you want to rid us of bump stocks, fine. But that's not what your bill will do.
http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/11/your-bi-partisan-bump-stock-ban-has-arri
I R A Darth Aggie at October 14, 2017 9:52 AM
Amy's on fire today:
https://twitter.com/amyalkon/status/919251485023617025
Snoopy at October 14, 2017 11:44 AM
Weinstein Scandal Reveals Truth About Hollywood’s Feminism
http://dailysignal.com/2017/10/12/weinstein-scandal-reveals-truth-about-hollywoods-feminism/
mpetrie98 at October 14, 2017 12:44 PM
Now, look what you've started.
"I grew up in Texas. Football is ubiquitous in Texas. Pro football, college football, high school football, Pee-Wee football; in fact, every form of football except the original: European football, which most Texans believe to be a commie plot." ~ The Big Bang Theory
Conan the Grammarian at October 14, 2017 1:16 PM
Those warped Germans have greater things to worry about. #Islam
mpetrie98 at October 14, 2017 4:13 PM
Here's my take on Kimmel, because it reminds me of some guys I knew in high school:
Kimmel is the rich kid in the frat. He's snobby to his frat brothers, crass with the ugly girls, handsy with the pretty girls, and he only studies enough to just barely pass. He sucks up to the professors to their faces and then gives them the finger behind their backs. He doesn't give a damn because he knows that as soon as he graduates, he's going to become vice president of Daddy's company, no matter what.
Cousin Dave at October 16, 2017 9:58 AM
Mpetrie, I have no doubt that, whether one is male or female, Hollywood is pretty awful if you have to live and work there as a person with relatively little power or influence. Not to mention: I knew a nationally famous TV actress when she was a normal teen, and when she got famous, she said in an interview, re her happy marriage, that when she met her future husband, she told him not to bother if he was an actor (he wasn't) because she would never again date actors. I would assume that's because they're good at lying - and that makes it easy for them to cheat. Never mind anyone who's a lot more powerful and ruthless than an actor, in Hollywood.
Doesn't change the fact, however, that that article you linked to has some glaring lies (or stupid errors) in it as well. Woody Allen's wife Soon-Yi was NEVER his stepdaughter or adopted daughter; he never lived with her beforehand; and according to her, when she was a highschooler, the two were "polite but uninterested in each other." Yes, it was rotten of him (and her) to get involved when it hurt Woody's adopted teen son Moses so much, but since then, Moses has taken Woody's side rather than Mia's, probably for good reason. (Re the accusations regarding adopted daughter Dylan - since Mia admitted, long after the fact, that she was fooling around with Frank Sinatra in the 1980s and hid that fact for years, there's a good chance that Ronan is not Woody's son. So I wouldn't be surprised if a liar like that brainwashed Dylan, over the years, to say what she said.)
lenona at October 17, 2017 8:39 AM
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