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It's important for Trump voters to be reassured that their president is as short-sighted, unprincipled, and personally defensive as they themselves are.

They share a precious, almost sexual interplay.

Oh!

Well excuuuuuuussse meee!

Is there a way to walk back calling for fellow Senator to resign when there is absolutely no evidence against him?

Some people seem to think there is.

The question is, in my mind, are they truly remorseful for demanding Franken's resignation with no evidence against him, or have they suddenly realized that just because Franken resigned, it doesn't mean that Trump will, or that Roy Moore would (if he, by some amazing feat) wins on the recount or can prove shenanigans on the part of his opponents' supporters.

Yeah. It's a convincing likeness.

> with no evidence against him
> (the former instance)

> with no evidence against him
> (the latter instance)

It's not a trial. It's not a prosecution. No "evidence" is required. Folks decided they wanted a different person to represent them in the Senate, that's all.

Chillax.

...are they truly remorseful for demanding Franken's resignation with no evidence against him...? ~ Patrick at December 19, 2017 8:42 AM

Or did they suddenly realize that with Doug Jones' victory, they no longer needed a public call for Franken to resign in order to mount their moral high horse? Without Moore, they can keep Franken and still use the "War on Women" in their campaigns.

Was it the case that the whole call to resign was a pretense, in case Moore won, to allow Democrats to ride a moral high horse? And that with his promise to resign "soon," Franken (and company) were hedging their bets in case Moore lost - hence Franken's "I'll resign soon" quasi-resignation?

They share a precious, almost sexual interplay. ~ Crid at December 19, 2017 8:33 AM

It's amazing how many Trump critics have laser-perfect insight into his motivation and thinking, and can tell you exactly why he did something or what he was thinking. And that motive is never altruistic, realistic, or practical, but always diabolical and mean-spirited. It's almost like he's a cartoon villain.

Conan:

Or did they suddenly realize that with Doug Jones' victory, they no longer needed a public call for Franken to resign in order to mount their moral high horse? Without Moore, they can keep Franken and still use the "War on Women" in their campaigns.

We have a winner! I think so, too.

I read somewhere (I wish I could remember where) a speculation that Franken was hoping that this would be found a Republican-fueled plot against him, which would mean he doesn't have to resign.

That might sound paranoid, but Franken is a perfect target. He did say that we must believe these women who come forward -- an idiotic statement, of course -- which puts him in a bind should he be accused.

If he defends himself from these accusations, then he's hypocritically calling these women liars while claiming that we must believe women who come forward to share their accounts. And if sticks to his guns, insisting that we have to believe women when they share their stories, even if he himself is the accused, then he's effectively admitted guilt.

If this was a Republican plot, I have to say it's a good one.

But in the long run, I'm hoping that the country itself learns from this: no one has a right to be believed.

Crid:

It's not a trial. It's not a prosecution. No "evidence" is required.

Isn't the law supposed to reflect the values we have as a society? Doesn't the law require evidence before we condemn someone because we ourselves don't believe in condemning someone without evidence?

The thing I don't like about these accusations -- whether against Trump, Moore, or Franken -- is that the accusers actually demand we consider these accusations credible, sans evidence, from people we've never even heard of.

Well, I don't believe them. And if you don't have evidence, then I refuse to even miss a beat to consider what you have to say. You want people to believe you? Go talk to your family, friends or anyone else who loves you and considers you credible. I don't, and it's ridiculous to expect someone who didn't even know you existed until you entered the public eye with these accusations to consider you credible.

You'll enjoy this...

"Matt Damon Right About Sexual Conduct."

By columnist Joan Vennochi.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/12/19/matt-damon-right-about-sexual-misconduct/tQeemaoxJXV2283pg3TPMK/story.html#comments

First paragraphs:

Matt Damon is right. There is a big difference between patting someone on the rear and rape or child molestation.

The actor got into trouble for making that sensible observation, followed up by this also sensible one: “Both of those behaviors need to be confronted and eradicated without question, but they shouldn’t be conflated.” For that heresy, Damon was blasted by women — some famous, some not — who believe it’s wrong to run various forms of sexual misconduct through a Harry Potter-like sorting hat. From their perspective, everything, from neck rubs to violent rapes, are actions perpetrated by evil misogynists deserving of professional death by firing and perpetual humiliation.

But that’s not how society addresses other wrongdoing. Trespass is different from breaking and entering. Larceny is different from armed robbery. Manslaughter is different from murder. Certain elements of a crime must be proved to warrant a guilty verdict, and the punishment is supposed to fit the crime. The #MeToo moment is not playing out in a court of law, and there’s plenty to be outraged about. But lumping it all together is a mistake, as a matter of fairness and feminist strategy...

(snip)

For the record, plenty of readers might not have expected Vennochi to write a column like that.

It's all about the leftoids, baby!

Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs Wants to Purchase Carolina Panthers, Sign Colin Kaepernick

They share a precious, almost sexual interplay.

Yes, Crid, I have always wanted to fuck Trump. I think I will ask Snoopy if he wants a threesome with me and the President. I wouldn't normally fuck a President who merits a mere C+ in my mind, in spite of my longing, as discerned by you, but just for you, I will make an exception and give in. You bring the camera phone.

Yes, Crid, I have always wanted to fuck Trump. I think I will ask Snoopy if he wants a threesome with me and the President. ~ mpetrie98 at December 19, 2017 11:38 AM

Be careful, he may say not want to and say "yes" to be polite.

Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs Wants to Purchase Carolina Panthers, Sign Colin Kaepernick ~ mpetrie98 at December 19, 2017 11:34 AM

'cause things always work out in football when he owner tells the GM and the coach what to do and who to play.

"Without Moore, they can keep Franken and still use the 'War on Women' in their campaigns."

The particularly cynical among us might note that some recent polls in Minnesota show that, were Franken to resign, the seat might be in play in 2020.

Be careful, he may say not want to and say "yes" to be polite.

But since Crid will bring the video camera, that will be irrefutable proof that he consented, in case Trump claims I raped him, at some later point in time.

That was a tongue-in-cheek reference to Amy's headline thread today ("Timid People Do Lots Of Things 'To Be Polite' -- Which Sounds Better Than The Reality") in which a woman claimed to have consented to a three-way only "to be polite."

> Isn't the law supposed to reflect
> the values we have as a society?

1. WGAF?
   
   
2. Says who?
   
   
3. There's no reason to get all poetical and metaphorical right this instant.

If he ain't your Senator... I mean, you can still go to all the Dustin Hoffman & Brett Ratner movies you want.

The rest of us are free to judge these guys by whatever criteria, evidence, or presumption we find appealing. They're our hires, after all. They don't earn those seats, ever.

> It's amazing how many Trump critics
> have laser-perfect insight into his
> motivation and thinking, and can
> tell you exactly why he did something
> or what he was thinking.

Youse meen like Ben/Snoopy did yesterday, when it turned out that Trump's support of Moore was insincere, and we all should have known? Like that?

Or is it something else?

Again... He's not a complicated guy. Nor are those most personally attached to him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhmUxUkBkog

The 2-year-old triplets’ mother says that without a leash keeping track of the three little girls is, as you might imagine, extremely difficult, especially for grandpa and grandma, so the family decided to invest in a solution.

Meryl Streep Defends after McGowan Attack: ‘I Wasn’t Deliberately Silent’ on Weinstein

DANG! Whack-a-doodle Islam strikes again!

Islamic Preacher Says Beardless Men Cause 'Indecent Thoughts' In Other Men Who Mistake Them For Women

'Make a poultice', indeed - and apply it to the head of the latest victim of police violence.

Wham, bam, slam your face into the concrete floor with handcuffs on, ma'am.

Come on, lawyers, do your stuff!