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I want Ben, Snoopy, Raddy et al to be cute about this some more... To pretend as—Ben did yesterday—that principles are irrelevant, or to be sincerely disinterested in them, as is the president they've elected.
In the Junior High fantasy of Trump's waking life, his erratic conduct strikes others as novel and revelatory. In fact, nothing about this administration is a surprise.
> I want Ben, Snoopy, Raddy et al to be cute about
> this some more
The bill is definitely a big F U to Trump and his supporters. I hope that Trump vetoes it. It also shows why people voted for Trump - the establishment GOP is no better than the Democratic party.
Snoopy
at March 23, 2018 5:22 AM
Crid, why would you desire such a thing? You're the one obsessed. Count the comments.
It remains that Mr. Trump remains a superior alternative to Ms. Clinton. Horrible, but still true.
I will entertain anything you believe would indicate the opposite. Be sure that such commentary is supported by actions or quotes.
We have the representation demanded by our own neighbors, as they have morphed from citizens to consumers eager to do anything which lets them have the Next Great Instant Gratification™. That's the source of your agitation - you just have few ways to discharge same, so it shows up here.
Radwaste
at March 23, 2018 5:55 AM
I want Ben, Snoopy, Raddy et al to be cute about this
So...are you implying that Dear Hill would have built the wall? that she would have ramped up ICE raids on illegals, and deported more of them? that she would have cut taxes and nominated Gorsuch? gotten a better budget deal??
Or would she have pushed us in the other direction? she was a terribull candidate who couldn't seal the deal on an election against a noob candidate with the deck stacked in her favor.
Yeah, she would have been a fantastic president.
the establishment GOP is no better than the Democratic party
Not really, no. They just mouth more pleasing platitudes, but at the end of the day, they still want to get invited to the best parties in DC, and they still have more in common with those people than they do with their constituents.
What is that Bismark is supposed to have said? When you say you agree to a thing in principle you mean that you have not the slightest intention of carrying it out in practice.
I R A Darth Aggie
at March 23, 2018 6:52 AM
I understand you are still in the midst of Trump Derangement Syndrome Crid. What you call "To pretend as—Ben did yesterday—that principles are irrelevant" was me noting in the US the president doesn't write the budget. The budget is written by congress. If you don't like the current omnibus bill Trump isn't the guy you have a beef with. He hasn't even signed it yet. Someday you may choose to no longer be mentally retarded and understand how the US government functions. Probably seven years from now.
On the actual bill, I understand the political compromises made. Not happy with them but I understand them. I'm on the fence about vetoing it being the best choice. But that is largely because I haven't had the time to review things in depth. Such is life. Time is limited. I would be ever so happy to have McConnell replaced with someone decent. But that is as likely as having Pelosi replaced. They are equally craptastic in my opinion. Either way until the TEA party does better in the ballot box this is what is going to happen.
Ben
at March 23, 2018 7:02 AM
> obsessed. Count the comments.
Yes, Puppy... He's the President of the United States. You wanted him, a lackluster, middling TV performer, for that gig. He's morally vacuous, intellectual vapid, and inter-personally troubled, and you've put in him in the position where such a person can affect the greatest number of lives in a negative way. And shit's hitting the fan.
Did you think no one would care? Did you think no one would see him as a deep reflection of your own (trembling) character? ...Or America's?
"Obsessed," you say... About the President of the United States (often described as "the leader of the free world," who will, with his pen this morning, renounce the dearest promises he'd made to those who elected him.
This is what you wanted, indisputably.
You thought you were still watching early primetime television in your underwear, with your dick in one hand and a PBR in the other, right?
Nope, this shit has consequences. This is your idea of "winning."
But he totally has a cell phone. Or he doesn't! "We'll never know"!
Crid
at March 23, 2018 8:22 AM
> implying that Dear Hill would have
Fer Christ's sake, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE???
Sheezus.
TRUMP ISN'T BUILDING A WALL EITHER! And he's the one who promised that he would, and who attracted listless, TORPID voters with the promise. Do you *get* this? Are you guys morning drinkers?
Fer Christ's sake, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE???
Because at some point, one has to stop the bleeding. Hill not only promised to not stop the bleeding, but to inflict more damage. Trump at least made noises like he might apply pressure to the wounds, maybe even a bandage or two. But Congress is addicted to reckless spending, and it appears that there is no money for bandages.
*shrugs* Maybe we've already reached the tipping point, and the Republic can't be saved. In which case maybe "let it burn" is the right answer.
In which case, best embrace the suck. Because it's gonna suck.
I R A Darth Aggie
at March 23, 2018 12:20 PM
More embracing the suck.
The problem is that if you tell a certain demographic, gender or ethnicity that they aren’t needed, they eventually start to believe it.
Today the men are fighting back . . . quietly. Men are opting out of marriage, rates are down by 18%. Heck, men are opting out of dating (by that I mean taking women on actual dates). Talk to any twentysomething and she’ll tell you she has never been taken to dinner. If a woman will give out sex with no strings thanks to Tinder, why bother with courtship?
"Talk to any twentysomething and she’ll tell you she has never been taken to dinner. If a woman will give out sex with no strings thanks to Tinder, why bother with courtship?"
This shows a complete lack of understanding. The strong party must court the vulnerable party or there is no reason for the vulnerable party to agree. Men have far more to lose in marriage or even a relationship. So if women want either of those they have to woo men.
Not saying that is a good thing. Just that is how it is.
Ben
at March 23, 2018 2:44 PM
Talk to any twentysomething and she’ll tell you she has never been taken to dinner. If a woman will give out sex with no strings thanks to Tinder, why bother with courtship?
The New York Times had an article a while back in which women breadwinners were interviewed. Many said they were having a difficult time dealing with the stress of being the primary breadwinners, of handling the fear that if they lost their jobs, the family would lose its health insurance and possibly the house.
I remember thinking while I read that, "Welcome to men's world, girls. You wanted a seat at the table and this stress is the price we all pay for that seat." Which is, of course, a mean sentiment, as these women were simply dealing with something their mothers never had to and for which they had never been prepared, something past generations of feminists had demanded, knowing they'd never have to pay the price for it.
“Girls” actress Zosia Mamet, who is far from what I call a young Republican, once wrote in Glamour that after a one-night stand she and her paramour headed to breakfast. When the check came he didn’t reach for it. She was furious. “If you’ve already Lewis-and-Clarked my body, maybe buy my oatmeal.”
"Sex with no commitment" includes no commitment to buy your oatmeal. Besides, you probably "Lewis-and-Clarked" his body, too.
Not to mention, at least you didn't have to stand in line for an Egg McMuffin.
"Yeah, but don't take her to McDonald's for breakfast. As much as we all love Egg McMuffins, standing in line for one after sex is a slap in the face." ~ Ellen DeGeneres
Conan the Grammarian
at March 23, 2018 3:17 PM
"This is what you wanted, indisputably."
Sigh. You're making things up again, in multiple fonts!™
Where's the part where Ms. Clinton was better?
Radwaste
at March 23, 2018 3:49 PM
> Because at some point, one
> has to stop the bleeding.
Well, "one," I'd say you didn't stop anything. In the glow of your earnest adoration, Trump continues the hemorrhaging in every meaningful context.
> GOP - the party that doesn't
> want to win
He signed the bill. Donald Trump, your "Winning!" guy. He signed it. You boys have been had.
> Sigh.
You're far too flighty to feign wizened weariness: You're twitchy with naivete.
"I remember thinking while I read that, "Welcome to men's world, girls. You wanted a seat at the table and this stress is the price we all pay for that seat." Which is, of course, a mean sentiment ..."
I don't know that that is mean Conan. You are just recognizing life. Some things aren't separable. If you want to be in charge then you are responsible for what happens when you are in charge. If you make a choice you are responsible for the outcome of that choice. Making stupid choices means you will have poor outcomes. Just how life is.
I want Ben, Snoopy, Raddy et al to be cute about this some more... To pretend as—Ben did yesterday—that principles are irrelevant, or to be sincerely disinterested in them, as is the president they've elected.
In the Junior High fantasy of Trump's waking life, his erratic conduct strikes others as novel and revelatory. In fact, nothing about this administration is a surprise.
Crid at March 23, 2018 12:49 AM
Consider the sample & blueprint at right.
Crid at March 23, 2018 12:57 AM
The Left in America.
Crid at March 23, 2018 12:59 AM
> I want Ben, Snoopy, Raddy et al to be cute about
> this some more
The bill is definitely a big F U to Trump and his supporters. I hope that Trump vetoes it. It also shows why people voted for Trump - the establishment GOP is no better than the Democratic party.
Snoopy at March 23, 2018 5:22 AM
Crid, why would you desire such a thing? You're the one obsessed. Count the comments.
It remains that Mr. Trump remains a superior alternative to Ms. Clinton. Horrible, but still true.
I will entertain anything you believe would indicate the opposite. Be sure that such commentary is supported by actions or quotes.
We have the representation demanded by our own neighbors, as they have morphed from citizens to consumers eager to do anything which lets them have the Next Great Instant Gratification™. That's the source of your agitation - you just have few ways to discharge same, so it shows up here.
Radwaste at March 23, 2018 5:55 AM
I want Ben, Snoopy, Raddy et al to be cute about this
So...are you implying that Dear Hill would have built the wall? that she would have ramped up ICE raids on illegals, and deported more of them? that she would have cut taxes and nominated Gorsuch? gotten a better budget deal??
Or would she have pushed us in the other direction? she was a terribull candidate who couldn't seal the deal on an election against a noob candidate with the deck stacked in her favor.
Yeah, she would have been a fantastic president.
the establishment GOP is no better than the Democratic party
Not really, no. They just mouth more pleasing platitudes, but at the end of the day, they still want to get invited to the best parties in DC, and they still have more in common with those people than they do with their constituents.
What is that Bismark is supposed to have said? When you say you agree to a thing in principle you mean that you have not the slightest intention of carrying it out in practice.
I R A Darth Aggie at March 23, 2018 6:52 AM
I understand you are still in the midst of Trump Derangement Syndrome Crid. What you call "To pretend as—Ben did yesterday—that principles are irrelevant" was me noting in the US the president doesn't write the budget. The budget is written by congress. If you don't like the current omnibus bill Trump isn't the guy you have a beef with. He hasn't even signed it yet. Someday you may choose to no longer be mentally retarded and understand how the US government functions. Probably seven years from now.
On the actual bill, I understand the political compromises made. Not happy with them but I understand them. I'm on the fence about vetoing it being the best choice. But that is largely because I haven't had the time to review things in depth. Such is life. Time is limited. I would be ever so happy to have McConnell replaced with someone decent. But that is as likely as having Pelosi replaced. They are equally craptastic in my opinion. Either way until the TEA party does better in the ballot box this is what is going to happen.
Ben at March 23, 2018 7:02 AM
> obsessed. Count the comments.
Yes, Puppy... He's the President of the United States. You wanted him, a lackluster, middling TV performer, for that gig. He's morally vacuous, intellectual vapid, and inter-personally troubled, and you've put in him in the position where such a person can affect the greatest number of lives in a negative way. And shit's hitting the fan.
Did you think no one would care? Did you think no one would see him as a deep reflection of your own (trembling) character? ...Or America's?
"Obsessed," you say... About the President of the United States (often described as "the leader of the free world," who will, with his pen this morning, renounce the dearest promises he'd made to those who elected him.
This is what you wanted, indisputably.
You thought you were still watching early primetime television in your underwear, with your dick in one hand and a PBR in the other, right?
Nope, this shit has consequences. This is your idea of "winning."
Crid at March 23, 2018 8:22 AM
> implying that Dear Hill would have
Fer Christ's sake, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE???
Sheezus.
TRUMP ISN'T BUILDING A WALL EITHER! And he's the one who promised that he would, and who attracted listless, TORPID voters with the promise. Do you *get* this? Are you guys morning drinkers?
Jesus.
Crid at March 23, 2018 8:39 AM
Promises, right?
Crid at March 23, 2018 8:44 AM
Why women really DO love bad boys: Females are more likely to lust after people with criminal records than males, study finds
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3557688/Women-really-love-bad-boys-Females-likely-lust-people-criminal-records-males-study-finds.html
Snoopy at March 23, 2018 9:29 AM
Woman paid to make false rape allegations against a man -
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/23/florida-school-shooting-sheriff-hoax-482170
Snoopy at March 23, 2018 10:37 AM
Fer Christ's sake, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE???
Because at some point, one has to stop the bleeding. Hill not only promised to not stop the bleeding, but to inflict more damage. Trump at least made noises like he might apply pressure to the wounds, maybe even a bandage or two. But Congress is addicted to reckless spending, and it appears that there is no money for bandages.
*shrugs* Maybe we've already reached the tipping point, and the Republic can't be saved. In which case maybe "let it burn" is the right answer.
In which case, best embrace the suck. Because it's gonna suck.
I R A Darth Aggie at March 23, 2018 12:20 PM
More embracing the suck.
https://nypost.com/2016/04/23/women-are-doing-it-all-themselves-so-why-are-we-so-unhappy/
I R A Darth Aggie at March 23, 2018 12:23 PM
Make Congress Democrat Again :(
Snoopy at March 23, 2018 1:41 PM
CONGRATULATIONS, PRESIDENT SCHUMER!
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/977236178679357445
Snoopy at March 23, 2018 1:45 PM
GOP - the party that doesn't want to win
GOP House
GOP Senate
GOP White House
Planned Parenthood still getting $500 million in taxpayer funding
https://twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/977236363950153728
Snoopy at March 23, 2018 1:46 PM
"Talk to any twentysomething and she’ll tell you she has never been taken to dinner. If a woman will give out sex with no strings thanks to Tinder, why bother with courtship?"
This shows a complete lack of understanding. The strong party must court the vulnerable party or there is no reason for the vulnerable party to agree. Men have far more to lose in marriage or even a relationship. So if women want either of those they have to woo men.
Not saying that is a good thing. Just that is how it is.
Ben at March 23, 2018 2:44 PM
The New York Times had an article a while back in which women breadwinners were interviewed. Many said they were having a difficult time dealing with the stress of being the primary breadwinners, of handling the fear that if they lost their jobs, the family would lose its health insurance and possibly the house.
I remember thinking while I read that, "Welcome to men's world, girls. You wanted a seat at the table and this stress is the price we all pay for that seat." Which is, of course, a mean sentiment, as these women were simply dealing with something their mothers never had to and for which they had never been prepared, something past generations of feminists had demanded, knowing they'd never have to pay the price for it.
"Sex with no commitment" includes no commitment to buy your oatmeal. Besides, you probably "Lewis-and-Clarked" his body, too.
Not to mention, at least you didn't have to stand in line for an Egg McMuffin.
"Yeah, but don't take her to McDonald's for breakfast. As much as we all love Egg McMuffins, standing in line for one after sex is a slap in the face." ~ Ellen DeGeneres
Conan the Grammarian at March 23, 2018 3:17 PM
"This is what you wanted, indisputably."
Sigh. You're making things up again, in multiple fonts!™
Where's the part where Ms. Clinton was better?
Radwaste at March 23, 2018 3:49 PM
> Because at some point, one
> has to stop the bleeding.
Well, "one," I'd say you didn't stop anything. In the glow of your earnest adoration, Trump continues the hemorrhaging in every meaningful context.
> GOP - the party that doesn't
> want to win
He signed the bill. Donald Trump, your "Winning!" guy. He signed it. You boys have been had.
> Sigh.
You're far too flighty to feign wizened weariness: You're twitchy with naivete.
Crid at March 23, 2018 4:01 PM
I guess once your father's no longer VP, you don't get to do cocaine in the Navy any more.
At least he still has his Chinese-backed investment firm. Although, with his dad no longer in the inner circle, his inside track is kinda dead.
Conan the Grammarian at March 23, 2018 4:10 PM
You just need to love him a little harder.
Crid at March 23, 2018 4:29 PM
Some stooges have the dignity to quietly acknowledge their humiliation.
Crid at March 23, 2018 4:46 PM
Re Craig's list.
Crid at March 23, 2018 5:43 PM
On the bright side, it is National Puppy Day!!
Snoopy at March 23, 2018 6:22 PM
he•cut•you•loose
Crid at March 23, 2018 9:15 PM
"I remember thinking while I read that, "Welcome to men's world, girls. You wanted a seat at the table and this stress is the price we all pay for that seat." Which is, of course, a mean sentiment ..."
I don't know that that is mean Conan. You are just recognizing life. Some things aren't separable. If you want to be in charge then you are responsible for what happens when you are in charge. If you make a choice you are responsible for the outcome of that choice. Making stupid choices means you will have poor outcomes. Just how life is.
Ben at March 24, 2018 9:02 AM
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