Given that many in the current crop of female feminists tend to project an aura that they're "weak, incompetent, exploitable, unprofessional, and unintelligent" I'm having a really hard time mustering any sympathy.

Yes, yes, painting with a broad brush and all. How to fix, I'm not sure. Maybe going back and addressing the biggest lie feminism ever told?

You can have it all. When you're on the outside looking in at men's lives, it looked that way in the 60s. But that was never true.

I've written about this before: It's the late anthropologist John Maynard Smith's "Sneaky Fuckers Strategy." As I put it in that post, "Basically, while the alpha male is off, oh, fighting the war, the beta male is sneaking sex with their woman."

This cartoon is pretty much on point:

https://twitter.com/Gossenphilosoph/status/923987399465684992

Also, from a memetastic point of view, the term male feminist is en route to displace the creepy friendzoned guy trope.

Women do in fact tend to want the men in their lives to fix things and do things that they could probably do themselves. They do this by pretending to be weak or ignorant or tired. I don't mind--a man is stronger and can do those jobs for his wife (or mother). I am all for the natural division of labor. BUT: this does not lead to a conclusion that she is strong, confident, etc. When this natural tendency to depend on the strong man to do things is projected out into the world as government should do things, the result is a strong projection of weakness on the part of women. When there is a freak out over a t-shirt, men just roll their eyes. That is not how strong people react.

".. irrelevant if older or less attractive ..."

Is it OK I think most people are irrelevant irrespective of age, gender, or attractiveness?

Basically, while the alpha male is off, oh, fighting the war, the beta male is sneaking sex with their woman.

Smaller beta male cuttlefish don't need to wait until the big alpha male is off fighting somewhere.

They cleverly disguise themselves as a female, deceiving the big-but-dumb alpha male, and proceed to fuck the female's cuttlebrains out (and no, there's no after-sex cuttling.)

"Male Feminist" = a quisling, traitor, and self-hating sycophant. No feminist is more odious than a male feminist; women at least have some excuse for being infected with the toxic femininity that is feminism. Men have no excuse. They are frauds on the make and delusional hypocrites, all at the same time.

I have to think that most women also find these "men" repulsive and repugnant: My castrated dog once desperately wanted to mount a neighbor's dog which was in heat. She wouldn't let him, no matter how hard he tried. It was pathetic ... neither of them got what they wanted.

> "Male Feminist" = a quisling,
> traitor, and self-hating
> sycophant.

Says you. I have no one to betray, affirm allegiance to no authority, and am in fact (correctly) self-admiring.

Of course I'm a feminist. Any grown man in the Western world knows how great it is that women can make their own choices about their lives, exploiting their own skills for their own achievements in ways unavailable to their great-grandmothers and other predecessors. All our lives benefit, economically and otherwise, from liberating feminism.

When a man (or anyone else) is so embittered by life (or so ignorant of it) that he can't recognize these fundamental, historically- and socially-demonstrable truths, I assume he's [A.] unread, [B.] a socially isolated coward, or [C.] an unread and socially isolated coward.

Modernity, babe. It's the only way to live.

Any grown man in the Western world knows how great it is that women can make their own choices about their lives,

Sorry, if you believe this you are not a feminist.

femism these days is the belief that until ALL women enjoy the power and privilege of the top 0.001% of men, even if they have to be forced into working jobs they neither need or want, that there is no equality

male feminists make the case that we need a patriarchy to protect such weak, frail, fragile creatures.

Do they now?

Male Feminist
Besides being an oxymoron can be best defined as Beta Cuck Male strategy for collecting a Harem

You know you are a Beta Cuck Male when your women friends still keep saying they really like you as a friend
Even after you keep:
- apologising for your toxic masculinity
- carry rape culture is real
- and you call yourself
a Male Feminist

Ever kiss a girl? Grandma, even?

I find it weird that Pluckrose doesn't say anything about INDIVIDUAL men, like Michael Kimmel - or whether she makes any allowances for those men who tend to vote, say, pro-choice, but who refuse to use the noun "feminist" except when referring to those who already call themselves that. In other words, she seems to be painting everyone on the left with the same brush.

To me, being an adult means avoiding the use of labels and political slang in general. All it does is alienate people if you refuse to define your terms - and your ideas and complaints.

And regarding division of labor, the late Planned Parenthood exec/novelist Sheri S. Tepper once wrote: "If you can turn a mattress over, you can change a tire. If you can sew on a button, you can drive a nail. If you don't know how, you can learn. And so can he."

To expand on that:

Don't let anyone try to argue that you should do most of the (pick any one) dirty/time-consuming/dangerous housework on the grounds that "you don't hate it as much as I do."

If, when you were little, you had an older brother and an older sister and THEY tried to argue that you should do all the housework because they hated it ten times as much as you did, would you or your parents tolerate that? Of course not. So what's the difference when it's a roommate or a spouse? Chores are work, whether the person doing them enjoys them or not, and within a household, we're all entitled to a certain amount of leisure time, and it's not fair to try to steal other people's leisure time.

(At the same time, one could argue that baking bread doesn't count as work, because it's time-consuming and therefore likely not cost-efficient. Same goes for unhealthful things like cookies - unless you're getting paid to bake them. Same goes for dusting and vacuuming twice a day - no household needs that.)

To clarify: If your spouse or kids ask you to bake cookies, tell them THEY can do the baking, assuming they're old enough - but kids should not be allowed to bake and eat them every day, of course.

If you work full-time and you volunteer for the school bake sale, that's YOUR fault. Same goes for baking cookies for yourself. Again, if you have to eat cookies in the first place, it's easy enough to buy cheap cookies on the run.