Joy Ann Ruh-Roh
I looked at her views on gays from years back on her blog and saw views that, frankly, a lot of people used to have -- and not all that long ago.
I think social media and gays and lesbians being more in the public view than ever has led people, basically, to the understanding that gays are people, too -- just people who are attracted to same-sex people.
Perhaps admirably, perhaps self-servingly (as a person whose audience is the left), Reid's views appear to have evolved.
But then there was this wildly bullshit story about her website being hacked.
Really? Really?!
But it's not just that -- it's the fact that this cable television "news" host and "national correspondent" (aka "journalist") at MSNBC thought for a second that a story like this would fly -- and not cause more trouble than the initial story.
It gets better! (As in, even more cray-cray!)
Watch: @MSNBC's Joy Reid addresses homophobic blog posts:
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) April 28, 2018
"I genuinely do not believe I wrote those hateful things ... but I can definitely understand, based on things I have tweeted and written in the past, why some people don't believe me." https://t.co/j0HEsnLuNp
More on that from Melanie Eversley at The Grio:
"I genuinely do not believe that I wrote those hateful things because they are completely alien to me," she said. "But I can definitely understand, based on things I have tweeted and have written in the past, why some people don't believe me."Reid added, "I have not been exempt from being dumb or hurtful or cruel to the very people I want to advocate for. I own that, I get it and for that, I am truly, truly sorry."
Reid continued to explain that she grew up in a household that expressed conservative views regarding the LGBTQ community. She later learned that some of her closest friends growing up were gay; they told her they kept it secret because they feared she would disassociate herself from them.
..."I can only say that the person I am now is not the person that I was then."
Again, that last line there should have been where she left it. (Preceded by "Yes, I did it.")
There's a terrific book, Masters of Disaster: The Ten Commandments of Damage Control, by Christopher Lehane, Mark Fabiani, and Bill Guttentag that talks about how to deal with a crisis like the initial one she had.
Commandment 1 of the book is "full disclosure." Exactly what she didn't do. (I'd tell you more of what they say, but I have the book in hard copy in Los Angeles, and I'm in Little Rock, Arkansas, for a the Arkansas Literary Festival for Unf*ckology.)
Basically, she should have said, "Yes, these are some backward views I had on gays. I've come to understand that and that they're hurtful, and my view has evolved."
Period.
No mysterious supposed hackers.
We can ultimately accept that people had views that changed. At least many of us probably can.
A dark-web hacker with a hobby of posting lengthy posts peppered with "Eew, gay sex is icky!"...yeah, we're not even that gullible when we're blind-ass drunk.








Despite using bad tactics, she'll get away with this. She's black.
When the left wants to crucify you for something, the very worst thing you can do is apologize to them. Because these days the left prides itself on being completely unforgiving. You can apologize, and they will force your resignation or firing, regardless.
Basically, when the left has set out to ruin your life, the best strategy you can employ is basically to tell them to get fucked. With that, you will at least rally support from the right. When you apologize, you will have support from no one. The left will continue to crucify you, and the right will be disgusted with you.
Patrick at April 29, 2018 12:31 AM
The right -- people like Bari Weiss whose tweet I saw -- were forgiving of her. I can't remember what she said, but basically, the tweets I've seen from people who are moderate conservatives (in my view) took the "People do change their views" view.
Amy Alkon at April 29, 2018 4:25 AM
Re: Damage control. If you want to get out of a hole first stop digging.
Jay at April 29, 2018 4:42 AM
I think they say something like that in this book, which, really, I found to be extraordinarily smart for damage control in a crisis.
Also, on a side note, if ever you have a lawyer working with you on something, tell them fucking everything. The most embarrassing details, the totally stupid stuff you did. Without knowing that stuff, they are working blind to some degree.
Amy Alkon at April 29, 2018 4:55 AM
You may be forgiven for having evolved as long as you are a Good Person now. If you are a designated Bad Person, you will be judged by the worst you have said or done. If these are not sufficiently awful, sufficient will be made up.
Current views are irrelevant.
Richard Aubrey at April 29, 2018 5:31 AM
Just thinking, with some mixture of sadness and amusement, the gay community has not learned and never will learn that the black community is not an ally and never will be.
Black people, in general, hate gays. I don't mean "dislike," I don't mean "are against." I said "hate" and I meant "hate." And they have shown it again and again.
When gay marriage was being voted on in California for the final time (obviously, this was before the Obergefell v. Hodges decision which legalized gay marriage all over the country), over 80% of all black people voted against gay marriage.
During the presidential campaigns of George W. Bush and John Kerry, a particularly Rovian dirty trick involved phone calls to black communities from push-pollers pretending to be John Kerry supporters, encouraging voters to vote for John Kerry, claiming he was for gay marriage (he isn't), so vote for John Kerry so we can legalize gay marriage.
And it was quite successful.
During the Toronto gay pride festival, Black Lives Matter activists were invited to march at the front of the parade. BLM stopped at an intersection and refused to proceed until their demands were met. Never mind that they never even tried to present their demands beforehand.
In Washington D.C., BLM activists took to the streets to protest and held up a gay pride parade. They can't stand any events that are not about them.
During a vigil for the victims of the Pulse nightclub shooting at the University of Missouri, Black Lives Matter activists took the opportunity to harangue the audience for not showing up to their BLM protests.
To any gay people reading this, I realize you will never accept this, but I cannot, in good conscience, simply not attempt to open your eyes:
the black community hates you. When you have protests, Black Lives Matter considers it their obligation to supplant you. And they will do whatever it takes to make the event about them.
Patrick at April 29, 2018 5:47 AM
> Commandment 1 of the book is "full disclosure."
Commandment 1 of the book should be "be a liberal."
Snoopy at April 29, 2018 7:55 AM
> The right -- people like Bari Weiss whose tweet I
> saw -- were forgiving of her.
Laura Ingraham almost lost her show, and was subject to many advertisers boycotting her, over one sarcastic tweet.
Joy Reid gets away with this.
One side is playing to win.
Snoopy at April 29, 2018 7:56 AM
"Conservatives need only look at how the Kevin Williamson situation played out and how the Joy Ann Reid situation played out to figure out how we've lost the culture war. Liberals rally around their own. Conservatives tuck tail and run for the hills."
https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/990379052732243968
Snoopy at April 29, 2018 8:01 AM
A progressive will never admit that he was wrong. That would admit the possibility that he might be wrong now. That is an impossibility. That thought is not possible.
Andrew Garland at April 29, 2018 11:46 AM
Regarding the Joy Reid situation, I'm just watching and eating the popcorn.
Cousin Dave at April 29, 2018 8:54 PM
"most straight people cringe at the sight of two men kissing"
What, exactly, is hateful about that statement? It is simply true. Meanwhile, it wouldn't surprise me if gay folks don't "get" heterosexual attraction. Look, you can have sex with a houseplant for all I care, but that doesn't mean other people will enjoy watching you fondle the ficus.
As for Ms. Reid, what a coward. Rather than standing up for her statements, she denies any memory of them.
a_random_guy at April 30, 2018 6:21 AM
I would change that to straight men cringing from straight people, Random. A lot of women are in to the whole guy on guy thing. There is the boy's love (BL) genera in books and manga. That is gay men specifically written towards a female audience.
For better or worse men seem to a much more hardwired sense of sexuality. Straight men tend to get violent or physically ill in homosexual situations. And that isn't a cultural thing. It seems to be biologically hard wired.
And Patrick, you are 100% correct about the black community being rabidly anti-gay. But don't expect any changes as long as they are reliable Democrat votes. Of course once they lose that then the long knives will come out with glee.
Ben at April 30, 2018 9:04 AM
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