The United States Of Hurt Feelz
Presidents are a product of their times and, generally, probably try -- and tried -- to do the best they could in their times.
The LAT Editorial Board lays out the ridiculous push to tear down a statue of President McKinley:
McKinley was the last U.S. president to have served in the Union Army. A former Ohio governor, he won the White House in 1896 while the nation was in the throes of a depression, and rode the recovery to reelection in 1900. He led the nation into the Spanish-American War, and its first full steps onto the international stage and into modern imperialism with the takeover of Puerto Rico, Guam and the Philippines.What's causing concern now is that McKinley also oversaw federal policies that undercut Native American tribal authority and reduced reservation lands by as much as 90 million acres. Those and related actions led the Tribal Council of the Wiyot Tribe in Northern California to join the campaign to have the statue of McKinley (who had no personal ties to the city) removed. Arcata was built on land seized from the Wiyot Tribe.
This is where the move to un-do historical markers veers into dangerous waters. Were McKinley only known or even best known for objectionable and inhumane policies, there might be a strong argument against the statue. But McKinley stood for much more than that, and a decision on whether to topple his statue ought to embrace the wholeness of his history and impact. Abraham Lincoln, for all that he is revered today, had his own problematic past. Though he claimed to always have opposed slavery, he embraced many of the white supremacist beliefs that predominated in America in his time. He also personally signed off on the hanging of 38 Dakota Indian men convicted of being involved in an uprising in Minnesota. Should we topple statues of Lincoln because of that?
We all have a "problematic past" to some degree, because we're human.
But the idea that every person needs to have a perfect "report card" is just ridiculous.
Take Martin Luther King. Should we toss out his beautiful words (and guideline for living) in his "I Have A Dream" speech because he had affairs?
Who's clean enough to have a statue in the public square?
The answer: Probably nobody.
Finally: What statues might have, in some cases, is a plaque with a sort of explainer.








toss out his beautiful words (and guideline for living) in his "I Have A Dream" speech
Already done. Color of skin means everything. Judging by content of character is racist.
dee nile at April 14, 2018 4:27 AM
Wow dee nile, you have managed to explained the whole problem in one short revelation. Society is fast doing a complete 180 degree turn. If you are of a certain skin color you are "good" no matter what you do. If you are not of that color you are "bad," or a racist, homophobic, nazi sympathizer, no matter what you have accomplished or how much character you have.
Jay at April 14, 2018 4:38 AM
The words with malice towards none, and charity for all are well written prose, but flies in the face of getevenism and I want mine, screw you all tribalism.
Oh, and MLK Jr was a dirty Republican and a gun owner!
I R A Darth Aggie at April 14, 2018 6:14 AM
Even a "plaque" would not help. For two reasons:
One: How can one reduce the history of one person onto a small plaque?
Two: If some folks didn't bother learning about so and so in school; why on earth would they bother reading a plaque?
charles at April 14, 2018 6:55 AM
Beginning to resemble Mao’s cultural revolution in China, and I am sure the goals are the same.
Isab at April 14, 2018 7:11 AM
They are.
It's straight out of the "So You Want To Overthrow Society" handbook.
Every revolution in history has followed these same tactics: the French Revolution, the Fascists in Italy, the Nazis in Germany, the Falangists in Spain, the Peronists, the Cuban Revolution, the Russian Revolution, and Mao's various upheavals; even the American Revolution followed this formula.
The amazing thing about the American Revolution is that people who instigated it voluntarily gave up the power they could have easily seized once the fighting was over. Not only that, but when their first attempt at creating a federal government failed miserably, they drafted the US Constitution, devolving power from the government to the governed.
Conan the Grammarian at April 14, 2018 7:43 AM
Nope. Nobody.
Public statues should be generic and express an ideology, not specific and honor a person. Let the Fearless Girl statue be your guide.
Conan the Grammarian at April 14, 2018 7:58 AM
The argument over statuary reminds me of a religious debate.
Early Christianity was riven with disputes over iconography. Statues, idols, etc.
The Commandment warned against false idols, but converting the heathens accustomed to idols required a physical focus for their worship.
Western Christianity evolved to allow statues of saints, the Virgin Mary, etc. Eastern Orthodox Christianity evolved to allow only tile mosaics, no statuary. Islam follows that model, no statues (graven images) allowed; Allah is everywhere, not in a statue.
The Catholic Crucifix has an image of a suffering Jesus on it. Most Protestant denominations felt even that violated the "no graven images" commandment and went with a simple cross.
Conan the Grammarian at April 14, 2018 8:09 AM
I was against the confederate statue thing, people asked me if I was against the tearing down of Saddham and yeah I was against that too, and I think it sucks that the statues of Hatchepsut were destroyed.
Because it isn't just about "honoring" people, it is about preserving a moment in time.
NicoleK at April 14, 2018 12:00 PM
On second thought, perhaps not "easily seized."
The seizure of power by a cabal at the end of the American Revolution was made more difficult by firearms and experience using them held by the public at large, a lesson not lost on our Founding Fathers - despite the fact that any of them with military experience knew that a militia, well-regulated or not, was not worth even half its number in trained professional soldiers.
At the end of the French Revolution, the French peasantry was still not well- or widely-armed. Same with the Russian Revolution and the Russian peasantry. Likewise with the English Civil War. Those revolutions were accomplished violently by seizing centralized power - e.g., the King's palace, the Czar's palace, the legislature.
The power centers in the American colonies and the states under the Articles of Confederation were widely dispersed, thus a single stroke could not decapitate the country.
Conan the Grammarian at April 14, 2018 1:09 PM
Blockers:
JD at April 14, 2018 3:09 PM
The original group of convicted indians was something like 400 and Lincoln cut the number hanged down to 38. I would call that mercy. No one ever has been perfect, and those who were close are now reviled by the Left for being religious (those Saints you know).
cc at April 14, 2018 4:31 PM
Blockers:
In 1975, the name controversy reemerged when the State of Alaska petitioned the U.S. Board on Geographic Names (USBGN) to change the name of the mountain to Denali officially. Unfortunately for Alaskans, the Ohio congressional delegation (representing former-President McKinley’s home state) blocked their efforts for the next four decades.
JD at April 14, 2018 3:09 PM
And in another hundred years, no one will give a flying fuck. Anyone remember what the Tibetans or the Chinese call Everest? And does anyone really care?
Isab at April 14, 2018 7:56 PM
"He also personally signed off on the hanging of 38 Dakota Indian men convicted of being involved in an uprising in Minnesota. Should we topple statues of Lincoln because of that?"
There are people who want to do just that, yes!
Fayd at April 15, 2018 7:41 PM
"The amazing thing about the American Revolution is that people who instigated it voluntarily gave up the power they could have easily seized once the fighting was over."
See Thomas Flexner's "The Indispensable Man" to see how George Washington saved the country from a military coup...
Radwaste at April 16, 2018 3:34 PM
Speaking as a POC I feel oppression and fear when I have to pass by place with G. Washington the criminals name on it. He was murderer of Native Folks, war monger, war criminal, womyn opreser, drug whysky maker and pusher and slave owner. All the name places and statutes of Washington need to be gone as apology to all the folks and their ancestors who Washington opresed.
Marcus Williams at April 20, 2018 6:07 PM
"Speaking as a POC I feel oppression and fear when I have to pass by place with G. Washington the criminals name on it."
You do yourself and everyone else you identify with no favors: not one.
The entire reason you have a representative voice in America today is that man's integrity - and all you've done here is signal ignorance and virtue simultaneously.
I am certain that you know nothing whatsoever of the actual lives of native peoples, who routinely made war on other tribes to seize land and women - who they took for slaves. In fact, they acted just like tribes in Africa today. If you want an index of who is successful on this Earth, look around with some effort and notice that their common bond is occupation by the British.
If you seek excuses for not succeeding in the USA today... look in the mirror. Outside of your home, there are millions of people just like you who lead prosperous lives absent the poison you've ingested - for the problem is you, not George Washington.
Radwaste at May 6, 2021 9:21 AM
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