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“Dog understand economics at a higher level than Bernie Sanders”
Sixclaws
at May 10, 2018 9:35 AM
Everywhere, I felt the absence—of people, of commerce, even of sound. The silence was broken only by a vintage pickup truck pulling up to the Downs grain elevator, huge mounds of excess grain piled high on the ground all around it.
That image—abundance at the center of a depopulated landscape—sums up the reality of rural Kansas. Yes, the harvest continues to be bounteous. But it masks a harder truth: Kansas’s plentiful grain crop has come at the expense of nearly everything else.
So we should stuff Kansas full of people to say NYC levels and just import all out food?
Most of the food america grows in given away in aid, o how many millions of brown people world wide have to die so the author can enjoy downtown style shopping districts in their home state?
While I found the rural Kansas article interesting I don't get how this is a problem. I understand if you are the mayor of a town that dried up and went away you have a problem. You aren't getting a pay check. But in the broader sense what is the issue?
It seemed to boil down that most of our farming can be done by robots now. So Kansas farmers can move to an urban area and manage their farms over the internet. Very few people are required. And technology has increase production so much that prices have fallen. So older farming styles can't compete.
I'm just not seeing the problem here.
Ben
at May 11, 2018 7:07 AM
I'm just not seeing the problem here
According to the article, the problem is that
Not long from now, “the region will only need people to run the grain silos and the gas stations,” said Laszlo Kulcsar, head of Agricultural Economics, Sociology, and Education at Pennsylvania State University. “Such people will not care about the place or the land. They will be people with no other options.”
emphasis mine
Stinky the Clown
at May 11, 2018 9:14 AM
Once again I don't see the problem. How is this 'care about the place or the land' supposed to work? I mean, people move all the time. Are you a bad person somehow since you got a job in Dallas and left Chicago? Or is this a farmer religion thing? Gotta worship the dirt. This dirt is in my blood. Or some such. Or was it about having employment options? Like that doesn't happen to anyone else. I guess the author thinks no one works a job they don't like. The reality is when there is virtually no one out there that last guy who fixes the robots and runs a gas station will make really good pay. He may pull in six figures simply because the businesses have no one else to replace him. The oil industry already has this problem with rig workers.
So yes, a very interesting article about the changing face of modern agriculture. But the only problem I see is people getting surprised things don't look like Green Acres.
It's getting to the point where a guy can't even....
Crid at May 10, 2018 1:01 AM
Women are ‘more controlling and aggressive than men’ in relationships -
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/relationships/10927507/Women-are-more-controlling-and-aggressive-than-men-in-relationships.html
Snoopy at May 10, 2018 4:53 AM
The Art of the Deal -
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc0cYvgWAAEr6VI.jpg
Snoopy at May 10, 2018 4:55 AM
For a self proclaimed dominatrix she seems awfully scared of men
Blocked me after just four comments highlight her hypocrisy and racism
https://twitter.com/lujlp/status/994463327916122113
lujlp at May 10, 2018 9:15 AM
It really does make you think.
https://twitter.com/pocahontasphnx/status/993957471730438144
Sixclaws at May 10, 2018 9:29 AM
Who's a good boy?
https://twitter.com/OrwellNGoode/status/994363873124810758
Best comment at the bottom:
Sixclaws at May 10, 2018 9:35 AM
https://newfoodeconomy.org/rural-kansas-depopulation-commodity-agriculture/
Sixclaws at May 10, 2018 9:52 AM
If yer old enough to remember the real use of this symbol..
https://twitter.com/mnrothbard/status/994470731382706176
Sixclaws at May 10, 2018 9:57 AM
Age is no excuse!
https://news.sky.com/story/malaysia-to-swear-in-worlds-oldest-leader-mahathir-mohamad-aged-92-11366259
Snoopy at May 10, 2018 10:10 AM
I'll pass, but thanks for asking...
https://twitter.com/_youhadonejob1/status/993587559933636608
I R A Darth Aggie at May 10, 2018 12:28 PM
Age is no excuse!
Get off my country, you damn kids.
I R A Darth Aggie at May 10, 2018 12:38 PM
The new Trump coin!
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/05/10/israeli-organization-reveals-trump-coin-in-expression-gratitude-over-embassy-move.html
Snoopy at May 10, 2018 7:00 PM
Everywhere, I felt the absence—of people,
So we should stuff Kansas full of people to say NYC levels and just import all out food?
Most of the food america grows in given away in aid, o how many millions of brown people world wide have to die so the author can enjoy downtown style shopping districts in their home state?
lujlp at May 10, 2018 9:43 PM
While I found the rural Kansas article interesting I don't get how this is a problem. I understand if you are the mayor of a town that dried up and went away you have a problem. You aren't getting a pay check. But in the broader sense what is the issue?
It seemed to boil down that most of our farming can be done by robots now. So Kansas farmers can move to an urban area and manage their farms over the internet. Very few people are required. And technology has increase production so much that prices have fallen. So older farming styles can't compete.
I'm just not seeing the problem here.
Ben at May 11, 2018 7:07 AM
I'm just not seeing the problem here
According to the article, the problem is that
Not long from now, “the region will only need people to run the grain silos and the gas stations,” said Laszlo Kulcsar, head of Agricultural Economics, Sociology, and Education at Pennsylvania State University. “Such people will not care about the place or the land. They will be people with no other options.”
emphasis mine
Stinky the Clown at May 11, 2018 9:14 AM
Once again I don't see the problem. How is this 'care about the place or the land' supposed to work? I mean, people move all the time. Are you a bad person somehow since you got a job in Dallas and left Chicago? Or is this a farmer religion thing? Gotta worship the dirt. This dirt is in my blood. Or some such. Or was it about having employment options? Like that doesn't happen to anyone else. I guess the author thinks no one works a job they don't like. The reality is when there is virtually no one out there that last guy who fixes the robots and runs a gas station will make really good pay. He may pull in six figures simply because the businesses have no one else to replace him. The oil industry already has this problem with rig workers.
So yes, a very interesting article about the changing face of modern agriculture. But the only problem I see is people getting surprised things don't look like Green Acres.
Ben at May 12, 2018 6:14 AM
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