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No, the progressives can't help themselves. You're either with them, or against them.
Or, as a wise man once observed: if your opponent is busy harming themselves, don't stop them. If anything, stir the pot. As Alinsky wrote, “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If intersectionality is your guide, live up to it.
I R A Darth Aggie
at May 14, 2018 6:45 AM
When Bill Maher gets kicked out of the club who is left?
Ben
at May 14, 2018 7:00 AM
People don't know how to disagree any more; nor how to debate their disagreement. Nor do they see any merit in disagreement.
Conan the Grammarian
at May 14, 2018 8:11 AM
So long as leftists try to get opponents "deplatformed" and "disemployed", we need to be doing the same to them. What's childish is to pretend these enemies can be safely ignored.
jdgalt
at May 14, 2018 10:13 AM
Here's Leonard Pitts.
I’m done trying to understand Trump supporters. Why don’t they try to understand me?
Leonard, try this on for size: we understand you all too well.
I R A Darth Aggie
at May 14, 2018 10:56 AM
The same individual over time will change his views on many things but the Left has amnesia about their own beliefs farther back than last week. How can we mob people who don't agree with us when younger me doesn't even agree with older me.
I have a group of friends and when we discuss food or exercise or health or politics or anything, there is no pair of them who agrees perfectly with any other. I am fortunate that we can debate without anyone getting mad. I gather that this is a vanishingly small situation these days. Why do my friends not all agree perfectly? 1) we are individuals who have formed our own opinions 2) some of us are ill-informed on some particular topic and 3) we value different things.
No, the progressives can't help themselves. You're either with them, or against them.
Or, as a wise man once observed: if your opponent is busy harming themselves, don't stop them. If anything, stir the pot. As Alinsky wrote, “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If intersectionality is your guide, live up to it.
I R A Darth Aggie at May 14, 2018 6:45 AM
When Bill Maher gets kicked out of the club who is left?
Ben at May 14, 2018 7:00 AM
People don't know how to disagree any more; nor how to debate their disagreement. Nor do they see any merit in disagreement.
Conan the Grammarian at May 14, 2018 8:11 AM
So long as leftists try to get opponents "deplatformed" and "disemployed", we need to be doing the same to them. What's childish is to pretend these enemies can be safely ignored.
jdgalt at May 14, 2018 10:13 AM
Here's Leonard Pitts.
http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/leonard-pitts-jr/article210497509.html
Leonard, try this on for size: we understand you all too well.
I R A Darth Aggie at May 14, 2018 10:56 AM
The same individual over time will change his views on many things but the Left has amnesia about their own beliefs farther back than last week. How can we mob people who don't agree with us when younger me doesn't even agree with older me.
I have a group of friends and when we discuss food or exercise or health or politics or anything, there is no pair of them who agrees perfectly with any other. I am fortunate that we can debate without anyone getting mad. I gather that this is a vanishingly small situation these days. Why do my friends not all agree perfectly? 1) we are individuals who have formed our own opinions 2) some of us are ill-informed on some particular topic and 3) we value different things.
cc at May 14, 2018 12:52 PM
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