The notion that countries should not care whether those who want to be citizens have value to us is just ludicrous -- the thinking of someone unhinged from reality (in a way that people on the left seem to specialize in)

Wouldn't it be lovely if they also rescinded the citizenship of the adult reproducing moron who left his toddler to fall off a balcony because he was busy playing Pokemon, a child's game?

As usual, there's been a huge emphasis on the courageous move that saved a child rather than the emotional imbecile who endangered the child in the first place. I'm fine with exalting a hero as long as we acknowledge the role of the idiot who made such heroics necessary.

The Gassama story will be used as a counterpoint for every single MS-13 and Garcia Zarate story for the next several years.

Thing is, not every illegal immigrant is a hero-in-waiting.

It turned citizenship into some kind of a prize to be given by the rich to the deserving poor.

It isn't?

Just by living in France, the French are better off (richer) than those living in Mali. But it didn't start that way. The French, throughout history, worked to turn their little chunk of dirt into a productive economic power. Along the way, they endured invasions, kings, emperors, wars, and political and social turmoil.

Why then should they open the doors and let in all comers, including the ones who have made Mali a hellhole?

If you want to emigrate from a poor country to a rich country, being made to show that you would add value to the body politic and be more than just another mouth to feed seems logical, and necessary.

"Wouldn't it be lovely if they also rescinded the citizenship of the adult reproducing moron who left his toddler to fall off a balcony because he was busy playing Pokemon, a child's game?"

That would be nice. The problem is who would take them?

Here's that Pokemon story:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/29/europe/paris-spiderman-rescue-pokemon-go-intl/index.html

"Friends of mine who have gone through the legal process to become citizens have found it long and onerous -- as it should be."

Sorry, no.

I cannot understand how you can think that a "long and onerous" process is a good thing.

The American immigration system is completely broken and does not benefit anyone except the bureaucrats that control it.

The solution is simple: Welcome to America, BUT no welfare or government handouts until you have been working and paying taxes for a few (many) years.

The DMV is long and onerous. That's not a good thing.
Here in Canada, we have long and onerous waits for medical care.
Your VA Administration has "long and onerous" waits for care.

Is that "how it should be"?

A "long and onerous" process for something that many people want indicates a problem.

Judging by her Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/Shree-Paradkar-319611211523669/

She's not really happy about much of anything. Not sure why she would want to live in Canada if it's such an unjust and vile place. Maybe she'd be happier in Mali, living among the sun people?

Excuse-moi but he is NOT a noble savage. He is FRENCH, and the French are civilised!

It has been sickening to see the celebration around French President Emmanuel Macron "rewarding" Gassama with citizenship that turned the man who, until Sunday, was among the "illegals" reviled by the xenophobes and racists, into a "noble savage" now deemed worthy of being "allowed" into France.

When has Macron shown himself to be a xenophobe and racist? If there are xenophobes and racists in France who revile illegals solely because of their race, why should that make any difference in what Macron does for Gassama?

Liberals and leftists are racist to the core. They can't see any quality in a black man beyond the color of his skin. If you disapprove of a black man for any reason they think you disapprove of him because he's black; because in their eyes everything and the only thing a black man is, is black.

To liberals, unless you believe like they do that black people are the white man's burden, incapable of getting educations, jobs, homes, cars, and functioning as equal and productive citizens in a civilized society, without the help of noble, compassionate, superior white people like themselves, you are a racist.

Liberals and leftists are racist to the core. They can't see any quality in a black man beyond the color of his skin. If you disapprove of a black man for any reason they think you disapprove of him because he's black; because in their eyes everything and the only thing a black man is, is black.

Oh, come on.

"Oh, come on."

Consider the hoax you have probably accepted...

...never noticing that racism is an industry employing people. They are not eager to quit their jobs.

That link does nothing to prove the statement that "liberals and leftists are racist to the core."

Kevin, you need your hand held, I get that. Now, get out and look around.

Ask any advocate of Affirmative Action, generally speaking included in the definition of "liberal" or "leftist", when they expect AA to end.

They don't. At best you'll get equivocation.

If you cannot realize that a blanket statement that blacks need assistance based on their race, the mission statement for AA, is racist, you need a bit of training in logical fallacies.

If you cannot realize that a blanket statement that blacks need assistance based on their race, the mission statement for AA, is racist, you need a bit of training in logical fallacies.

I agree that it's racist; I don't agree that it's somehow a mission statement for liberals and leftists, and I certainly don't believe that there's a binary of liberal/conservative people and that one or the other is inherently racist.

We'll have to disagree on this, clearly.

Kevin,
Here is some evidence. It is widely held by the Left that the requirement to register to vote is racist. Someone went around black neighborhoods and videotaped asking them if they had any problem having ID (like driver lic) to register to vote and the blacks were offended that someone thought they were so incompetent. Yes I know, small sample size...but it is implicit in many liberal policies and programs that blacks can never succeed without help (due to racism they claim, but really due to their racism).
As to the article, the writer believes that everyone should be allowed in to all countries. Yet you can't simply immigrate into Japan or China or anywhere in Africa without their approval. Furthermore, even the million or so let in to Europe are straining their system and rioting in France on a regular basis. I must ask, if it is so bad they must riot, why did they come and why do they stay?

Oh well, you are not on the right!
Welcome to the club of those who are labeled "fascist", and are therefore silenced, for holding perfectly reasonable and natural positions.

I'm fine with exalting a hero as long as we acknowledge the role of the idiot who made such heroics necessary.
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Beautifully said, Kevin.

Just because we can't legally prevent adults from reproducing doesn't mean we can't put a lot more social pressure on adults to behave like adults - whether they reproduce or not. Gassama is a real adult who was willing to make real sacrifices. The "father" clearly did not want to make the slightest breakaway from childhood (I'm sure it's not legal in France to leave a four-year-old alone for more than an hour - I hope) and probably didn't want to be a father in the first place. But he had an obligation, period, and failed.

"I don't agree that it's somehow a mission statement for liberals and leftists,..."

Nice diversion. It remains a description of the reason for AA.

Can you name a self-identified liberal or leftist - or one identified by their actions - who opposes AA?

How many?