But the Droogs love Ludwig van.

I suspect that Theodore Gioia does not frequent those places, and thus crime there does not directly impact him.

Getting mugged might change his perspective.

Living in Venice, where there's a serious, dangerous homeless tent encampment problem would change his mind.

Human feces, anyone?

I believe in compassionate solutions for the homeless, but living on a grassy patch across from houses in a tent encampment with no bathrooms or places to throw trash is not one of them.

I'll bet different music works on different types. You want to keep older, quiet, educated, civil people out of your youth oriented shop? Play rap music on your speakers.

This could lead to whole new method of selectively discouraging different groups of society.

These supra-civic services seem to consist primarily of finding tasteful ways to displace the destitute. ~ Theodor Gioia

He'd prefer a distasteful way of displacing the destitute?

I suspect that Theodore Gioia does not frequent those places, and thus crime there does not directly impact him. ~ I R A Darth Aggie at June 12, 2018 6:53 AM

I share Gioia's dismay that classical music is so disdained by the hoi polloi that it drives them away and that it can be used as a social weapon. When we stopped teaching music appreciation, we lost something significant in our culture.

I also share Darth's scorn that those who decry the "displacement of the destitute" often do so at a safe distance from the actual impact of having hordes of idle young men gathering on one's doorstep to the accompaniment of loud rap music.

Theodore Gioia thinks The Central Market Community Benefit District is "a cryptic organization"?

He thinks their mission statement "strikes an Orwellian note"?

For a cryptic, Orwellian organization the CMCBD sure puts a lot of information about its goals, activities, accomplishments, budget and sources of funding on its easy-to-find website.

I think Theodore Gioia is an ignorant, dishonest, drama queen who needs a therapist and psych meds - i.e. a typical, progressive, social justice warrior.

It might be interesting to see the long term effects of this practice. If classical music is consistently played where young people hang out, they might eventually find a certain symphonies more tolerable than others. Eventually, they might even acquire a taste for it.

You want to keep older, quiet, educated, civil people out of your youth oriented shop? Play rap music on your speakers.

Yes, that should work. Alternatively, one may find that paying patrons get fed up with being mugged and may no longer patronize your establishment, leaving the unemployed utes to prey upon your employees and/or your cash drawer.

My local watering hole has an online jukebox from https://www.amibarlink.com/ . Certain segments of the clientele liked the aforementioned rap music.

I'm kind of agnostic when it comes to music, and I even enjoy some rap. But a steady diet of "ho's this, and n***as that, fuck the po-po" gets old after a bit, and somehow that box's catalog of rap got magically removed.

Don't look at me, I didn't say jack.

Peter McWilliams (author of "Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do: The Absurdity of Consensual Crimes in Our Free Country") quoted this, in his book, from the 1993 edition of the World Almanac and Book of Facts:

Chicago teacher Bruce Janu deals with kids who are late to his class or talk out of turn by sentencing them to the Frank Sinatra Detention Club. Students are forced to listen to tapes of "My Way," "Love and Marriage," and other Sinatra classics. There is no talking and no homework.

The students "just hate it," Janu says. "I get a grimace, like, `I can't believe I'm listening to this, something my parents and grandparents listened to.' I get a lot of rolls of the eyes." Janu says the kids can sing along, but no one has.

A senior got two "Franks" in a day—60 whole minutes of Sinatra. "I just got to where I couldn't stand it," he said.
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Btw, my grandmother (born in WWI) was slightly younger than Sinatra, but she could never stand his music either; she called it "sappy." (She couldn't stand Bing either; she preferred classical music.)

But then, how many fans DID Sinatra ever have who were within ten years of his age?

Just be grateful that Wyclef Jean's style of rapping -slutty quips between musical pauses- didn't caught onto the mainstream audience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSdpLMRTwA8

The pilot's remarkable results -- seeing train robberies fall 33 percent, verbal assaults on staff drop 25 percent, and vandalism decrease 37 percent after just 18 months of classical music -- caught the eye of the global law-enforcement community.

So, predators and miscreants don't like Pachelbel and Mozart. eh?

I like it.

There was a bar in a college town that attracted two crowds: college students and cowboys*. The cowboys would start fights with the college students, and guess who would lose? The college students spent lots more money. The bar could not put up a sign that said "no cowboys" so they put up a sign that said "no hats" and it worked: no more cowboys.

*a euphemism

cc, that story fits "The Point After", on Alafaya Trail down the road from the University of Central Florida.