In reviewing Thaily's tweets since the one you posted, unsurprisingly, I find that she lacks the ability to question her own views, and the fact that dissent was offered by "old, white men," is sufficient to discount them.

Also, the fragile snowflake that she's protecting made her comments public, so she can be called out publicly.

And unsurprisingly, the delicate snowflake Naomi H has privatized her account and her bio reads, "Taking a break from twitter for a while."

For someone who blusters on Twitter about her "dick and balls," Naomi H should probably grow a pair.

"How the hell do so many women grow up thinking they and the other women around them are princesses?"

Have you seen *any* mass media at all during the last 30 years?

Homer Hickham is not only a retired NASA engineer but an author of considerable accomplishment: he wrote 'Rocket Boys', which was turned into the movie 'October Sky', and 'Sky and Stone', describing life in a coal-mining community, among several other books.

Why on earth did he think that he was 'certain she deserved in place in the aerospace industry' after her obnoxious behavior? What is the likelihood that this person will be able to get along with managers and co-workers on any sort of reasonable basis?

Patrick: the individual in question is a male bodied trans woman, so the anatomical equipment you mention is in fact there.

I appreciate that you're not demanding that everyone who says she is female must be called a "woman" from the cradle, and that a college girl can really be a girl, but it's a bit too much into the radfem vernacular that the term "man" is verboten to call Homer Hickham a "dude". I've noticed people like you who have demonstrated a willingness to understand people are people (one might say, genuine people who aren't driven by an axe to grind) fall into this trap of using the radical left's language, and once you lose the language and start accepting "old dude" and "my dude", their language controls your thinking.

Loco beat me to it: "dude" is a derogatory term that post-modern fems use for men. But let's cut off that limb they are sitting on, and own it. This dude abides.

Um, considering that that "old white man" is a NASA legend and has forgotten more about rockets and space flight than NaomiH or Thaily Brimstone know put together; not to mention spent 17 years working for NASA designing space craft and training astronauts, how about shutting up and listening to him.

If you've seen the 1999 movie, October Sky, you've heard of Homer Hickham. It was based on Hickham's memoir, Rocket Boys. He's written several other books, both fiction and nonfiction.

Girl writes to retired NASA dude, most classily, "Suck my dick and balls I'm working for NASA."

That attitude is what, in the end, killed her internship. "Such my dick and balls" is not what NASA wants its interns tweeting to its retired engineers or political overseers. Internships are about learning from NASA engineers, not telling them off, as if you know more than they do.

Hickham's reply to her "suck my..." tweet, "And I am on the National Space Council that oversees NASA." should have merited at least an apology from NaomiH, but apparently she didn't see it that way.

If she knew anything about NASA, the name "Homer Hickham" should have at least rung a bell and given her pause before stupidly tweeting something petulant.

I hope he's able to get her another internship and that she's learned to at least google people before telling them off.

For someone who blusters on Twitter about her "dick and balls," Naomi H should probably grow a pair.

She should see a physician to get a 'script for Growaset™.

Why on earth did he think that he was 'certain she deserved in place in the aerospace industry' after her obnoxious behavior?

She's got the salty language down. On the other hand, if salty language is a barrier to employment, I probably shouldn't have a job. I suppose I could offer courses in cursing for sailors.

we have this chickie bringing race in in a most ugly way.

A cock-juggling thundercunt. I wish I could claim credit for that insult, but like Uncle Milty, I know a good insult when I steal one.

This dude abides.

Dude.

More about this, perhaps already covered here.

Jamie: "...male bodied trans woman..."

...isn't a thing.

Interesting to note, despite Thaily's cavalier attitude about being called out, my tweets to it (I have no idea what gender it purports to be) prompted it to block me. I love it when someone claims not to care about anyone's responses to their tweets, but goes on a blocking rampage when these tweets they supposedly don't care about get under their skin.

Patrick: no idea what else to call someone with intact male genitals who calls themselves a woman but also, in classic male fashion, uses the fact of possessing those genitals as a dominating tactic in a disagreement. Suggestions welcome.

What nobody is talking about, which is interesting to me, is how that individual's friends, mostly the lunatic fringe of the transactivism brigade, went bananas tweeting their insane shit at many of the involved parties, including at NASA and other officials. Why everyone is so determined to protect that particular group is beyond me.

Let's see, newly-minted NASA intern is warned about her language by NASA legend, snarks back at him to suck her dick, and gets fired.

May I suggest a new approach? Google him, find out who he is, and ask him to be your mentor or start a correspondence relationship with him. So far, Hickham's doing more for her than she deserves.

Puts me in mind about Jakob Dylan's pursuit of a musical career. I mean, for most aspiring musicians, when office-worker Dad comes into the garage and calls your band's music noise, you can blow him off. But when your dad's Bob Dylan, you gotta give some credence to the criticism.

Also puts me in mind of the scene from Armageddon where the bullying general snaps at the meek scientist, "Was I talking to you?" and Billy Bob Thornton slaps the general down with "This is Dr. Ronald Quincy from Research. Pretty much the smartest man on the planet. You might wanna listen to him."

Naomi, this is Homer Hickham, 17-year NASA veteran who came from humble beginnings and has designed spacecraft, trained astronauts, authored several books, and has advised presidents and vice presidents. Pretty much a public relations gold mine for NASA. You might wanna listen to him.

I think Twitter (and all social media) should make people pay for profanity. If you want to swear, you have to buy bad-language tokens.
I think Naomi sounds like an self-centered idiot, but why Homer even bothered to comment on her first tweet is beyond me.

People complain that Mr. Hickam didn't identify himself before chiding about language so that NaomiH could reply appropriately--but if you mouth off to someone, it's your responsibility to know who you are mouthing off to before you open your yap.

And NaomiH could have avoided all this by simply saying something like "Yeah I'm just so EXCITED to be working for NASA!"

Yet another case where someone suffers because no one ever taught the poor fool how to be polite...or why.

Ugh, the "don't tone police me" thing every teenager whines when someone tells them not to talk like a !#$%!@#

Heading to the radfem Gender Critical boards to see what the women have to say about it! *popcorn*

Patrick, how do you know they are trans?

People complain that Mr. Hickam didn't identify himself before chiding about language so that NaomiH could reply appropriately.... ~ Ed Hering at August 22, 2018 10:46 AM

He identified himself immediately afterward with a reply, "And I am on the National Space Council that oversees NASA." That alone should have been enough to make her and everyone else realize that this was someone influential, if not her new boss' boss.

Despite her arrogant dismissal of him, Hickham had nothing to do with her firing. He let it go. Her supporters, anxious to condemn the "old white man" clucking at her language, linked her comments back to NASA, leaving them little choice but to fire her, lest her continued employment there be taken as condoning both her words and her attitude.

And I'm willing to bet that Hickham had done more with his life by the time he was their age than NaomiH's supporters condemning him for being an "old white man" will do in their entire lives, combined.

...but if you mouth off to someone, it's your responsibility to know who you are mouthing off to before you open your yap. ~ Ed Hering at August 22, 2018 10:46 AM

If she'd googled him, she might have realized that this is someone of consequence - *and* someone who could help her in her future career, a mentor who could open doors for her.

Millennials are making the same mistake that Boomers made, assuming that they are the very first to experience something, and that "old ass" people cannot possibly understand or have insight, simply because they "don't know how to send an iMessage."

"People complain that Mr. Hickam didn't identify himself..."

In the NASA world, that's kind of the equivalent of standing on a street corner in Hollywood saying, "Who the hell is this Alec Baldwin guy? I never heard of him."

Things to consider, Homer Hickham, being a Vietnam vet and ex coal miner, has undoubtedly heard far worse than what was in those tweets. Odds are good he had his own other rough edges before he started at NASA.
So it does not surprise me one bit he wouldn't be offended by it but would have given her? advice on her language. Odds are good he had gotten that admonishment too when he first started.

David Foster "Why on earth did he think that he was 'certain she deserved in place in the aerospace industry' after her obnoxious behavior?"

Don't know, but can easily see a vet and coal miner not thinking it was that obnoxious or should be career ending.

I like Amy's implicit suggestion to just drop the arrogant attitude. That "nobody" you Googled and decided to mouth off to could be the spouse or friend of a "somebody." Or your employer might just want someone without all the attitude.

Never mind PAtrick, the ladies at GC answered me

"Why on earth did he think that he was 'certain she deserved in place in the aerospace industry' after her obnoxious behavior?"

Because @naomiH has enough Diversity Pokemon Victim points to skate on any real punishment.

JoeJ..."Don't know, but can easily see a vet and coal miner not thinking it was that obnoxious or should be career ending."

It wasn't so much the initial comment, IMO, as the obnoxious response to mild criticism.

Doubt that talking to one's squad leader or shift foreman in that manner would have had a very good outcome...

Patrick: no idea what else to call someone with intact male genitals who calls themselves a woman

Umm, you call them a man

Don't know, but can easily see a vet and coal miner not thinking it was that obnoxious or should be career ending. ~ Joe J at August 22, 2018 12:48 PM

Hickham says that NaomiH did reach out to him with what he calls an "unnecessary" apology. In subsequent discussions, she convinced him that she could be a credit to the aerospace industry and he is helping her with obtaining a new internship and making sure there is no black mark on her record with NASA. So, NaomiH is not the problem here. She made a mistake and got called on it; a mistake she probably won't repeat. People do that sometimes.

Thaily Brimstone, on the other hand, can't seem to let it go.

David Foster at August 22, 2018 4:49 AM:
Why on earth did he think that he was 'certain she deserved in place in the aerospace industry' after her obnoxious behavior?

I am going to guess that Mr. Hickham had further correspondence with them, that Mr. H. perhaps remembers what it was like to be young and bright, but dumb sometimes too, and that Mr. H. feels that it is worth his time to give this person a chance to either grow up or go down in flames, but in either case to give them a chance to do it in meatspace, where it really counts.

I admire the chutzpah of "who wants to get their tone policed by old white men on the internet?"

Honey, that's who invented everything you use today and brought it to the point you use it to show your ass.

Radwaste: Honey, that's who invented everything you use today and brought it to the point you use it to show your ass.

Not everyone who contributed to the invention of the internet was an old white man. Actress Hedy Lamarr wasn't.

"Hedy..."

Applause for a smart lady. That's one of many, whose fathers were...?

Don't forget George Antheil, rarely mentioned because he was the ordinary white man working beside the great beauty.

The point is - and you know this - that the accomplishments of "old white men" dwarf that of others.

About the Thaily Brimstone tweet: Not this race-baiting, anti-White crap again!

Radwaste Says:

"The point is - and you know this - that the accomplishments of "old white men" dwarf that of others."

You are cherry picking.

The great pyramids were not designed or constructed by "old white men".

The entire numerical system we presently use was not invented by "old white men".

Gun powder was not invented by "old white men".

Your claim doesn't really many much sense unless you purposefully ignore major contributions to the fields of mathematics, physics, chemistry, engineering, agriculture, etc... by restricting your analysis to a very short time frame of human history in a very small region of the world.

If you want to discuss the entire omnibus of human accomplishment as a means to talk about relative contributions of people of differing ethnic backgrounds then you actually have to include everything we have accomplished as a species.

The very same people who have created safe spaces and hurt feelings as weapons don't like it when other people get offended by them or when corporations or NASA have professional standards. heh. They want to both claim that a whistle is sexual assault and have naked bike rides. Sorry, that isn't how social standards work. If bad language can create a firestorm don't be surprised if it can bite you too.

Don't forget George Antheil, rarely mentioned because he was the ordinary white man working beside the great beauty.

Actually, he is rarely mentioned because it was her inspiration. She was the one who learned about radio controlled torpedoes from her husband, and became concerned with how easily they could be jammed.

She did get in contact with George Antheil and together they designed a frequency-hopping radio signal which could be used to control the torpedoes, making it impossible to jam. The design was inspired by the paper rolls used to control player pianos. In fact, their spread-spectrum design hopped over 88 signals, just like there are 88 keys on a piano.

This same concept is used by your wi-fi and Bluetooth.

Also, unlike Antheil, Lamarr had other inventions to her name, such as an improved traffic signal and a tablet that dissolved in liquid to make a carbonated beverage. (Though the latter invention was not successful; Lamarr herself said it tasted like Alka-Seltzer.)

"You are cherry picking.

Okay, here's the rest of the orchard, as I simultaneously illustrate your irony:

"Still, permit me a brief and very incomplete list of things white people have done or invented:

Euclidean geometry. Parabolic geometry. Hyperbolic geometry. Projective geometry. Differential geometry. Calculus: Limits, continuity, differentiation, integration. Physical chemistry. Organic chemistry. Biochemistry. Classical mechanics. The indeterminacy principle. The wave equation. The Parthenon. The Anabasis. Air conditioning. Number theory. Romanesque architecture. Gothic architecture. Information theory. Entropy. Enthalpy. Every symphony ever written. Pierre Auguste Renoir. The twelve-tone scale. The mathematics behind it, twelfth root of two and all that. S-p hybrid bonding orbitals. The Bohr-Sommerfeld atom. The purine-pyrimidine structure of the DNA ladder. Single-sideband radio. All other radio. Dentistry. The internal-combustion engine. Turbojets. Turbofans. Doppler beam-sharpening. Penicillin. Airplanes. Surgery. The mammogram. The Pill. The condom. Polio vaccine. The integrated circuit. The computer. Football. Computational fluid dynamics. Tensors. The Constitution. Euripides, Sophocles, Aristophanes, Aeschylus, Homer, Hesiod. Glass. Rubber. Nylon. Roads. Buildings. Elvis. Acetylcholinesterase inhibitors. (OK, that’s nerve gas, and maybe we didn’t really need it.) Silicone. The automobile. Really weird stuff, like clathrates, Buckyballs, and rotaxanes. The Bible. Bug spray. Diffie-Hellman, public-key cryptography, and RSA. Et cetera."

You're positively oozing guilt, and you should stop, because you're clearly not contributing to this achievement which so shames you.